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Old 04-21-2006, 04:10 PM   #1
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what is a good tire size for 17x9 cobra rims?? 235/45/17 or 245/45/17 which would fit better? and which size would look nicer?
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Re: tires???

neither of those will work, for a 9 inch wide rim in a 17 inch size you need a 275/40/17 tire. Any smaller is to small unless you like the look of stretched tires over a rim and curb rash along with poor wearing characteristics.

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Old 04-21-2006, 09:06 PM   #3
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are you sure?? b/c the sizes are in millimeters and 275mm is like 10.8 inches
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Actually 245 45 17's are put on 17X9 from the factory and some like Bridgestone/Firestone and Dunlop put hardened ridge which protect the rim from rash. But as Spector said 275 40 17 will work. I personally would use 255 40 17 all around or 255 40 17 in the front and 275 40 17 in the back
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so i should go w/ either 255/40/17 or 275/40/17. but what about 45 instead of 40?? will that look stupid or will it look about the same?
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so i should go w/ either 255/40/17 or 275/40/17. but what about 45 instead of 40?? will that look stupid or will it look about the same?
The difference between the 255 40 and the 245 45 is almost zero. it is not even noticeable. As a matter of fact I have 255 40 17 in the feont and 245 45 17 in the back because the last time I needed tires they did nt have 4 of either tire so they stuck 2 of each on the car. You can not tell!!! so if you are looking to have bigger tires in the back either 255 40 or 245 45 will do in the front and go with 275 40 17 in the back
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Re: tires???

I personally have 245/45ZR17s in the front and 275/40ZR17 in the rear. Works VERY well. Also, I'mnot sure if you all know this but the first number is measured in millimeters. So 275mm across. And there are 25.4mm per inch, so that makes it about 11" of rubber across!! Also, the second number is called the profile percentage. If you want the formulaon how to calculate it, i can get it for you.
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Re: tires???

will i have to buy wheel spacers if i go with 275/40/17 so they don't rub??
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will i have to buy wheel spacers if i go with 275/40/17 so they don't rub??
Not in the back. but it would look better if you had spacers in the back 1" would due. In the front you tires will scrub in the tight turns. I suggest you not put spacers on the front spindles. The weight being applied outboard of the factory setup can prove to cause excessive wear and stress on the steering components and linkage. It will also cause tires to wear uneven and create poor steering characteristics.

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Re: tires???

In the front I would just go with 245's in the front like I did and 275 in the rear. the tire height for each is virtually the same and it looks good, and you won't have to worry about rubbing.
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Re: tires???

should i get 245/45/17 or 245/40/17 in the front with 275/40/17 in the back?
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Re: tires???

Get 245 45 17's in the front and 275 40 17's in the back
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Re: tires???

You may want to take a look at someone else's car who has 245s on a 9 wide wheel before you decide to go that route. They're pretty narrow.

If it was me... I'd put 275/40/17s all around on 17x9 wheels. This way you can rotate them, you don't have to worry about curb rash (as much), and it, IMHO, looks much better.

On my fox, I've got 255/40/17s on the front and 275/40/17s on the back. The 255s, in my opinion, are a little narrow for the rim. Some like that look. I personally like the sidewall to either appear straight or have a slight bulge. Another important note is that some tire manufacturers measure tire widths differently. For example, the Yokohama's I have are quite wide for their size. The 255s would be even more narrow if that wasn't the case.

Also, with a 255 you can't get exactly the right sidewall height. I run a 255/40 which is notably shorter than than a 275/40. This actually doesn't look too bad (gives it a nice raked stance), but I still think the tire is just too narrow for a 9" wheel.

If I ever put tires on those rims again, I'm going to run 275s all around. Yes, they will rub slightly at full lock, especially on a fox. Your car won't be near as bad. It's not a big deal though, because you get used to when they rub and just don't turn the steering wheel that far. Problem solved.
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Old 04-25-2006, 08:22 AM   #14
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Re: tires???

I have 17x9 rims up front with 255/40/17 Yoko's (AVS ES100). They look nice BUT are not wide enough, I have the curb rash to prove it. Go with 275's all around, you will be glad you did.
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I have 17x9 rims up front with 255/40/17 Yoko's (AVS ES100). They look nice BUT are not wide enough, I have the curb rash to prove it. Go with 275's all around, you will be glad you did.
245's are not the reason you have curb rash. You have scrubbed curbs to get curb rash. Dont blame the tire for your curbing the rims!!!!!

I personally think 275's look odd on the front and you will also limit your steering when turning because they will scrub!!!

In my 28 years of driving I have only curb rashed a rim once when I was in no condition to drive. Luckly it was a stock steel rim on a Caprice Classic.


WATCH OUT FOR CURBS!!!!
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Re: tires???

im just gonna go with 245 in the front and 275 in the back. if it looks odd then ill go with 275 all around, but i dont want to have to worry about rubbing so im going with 245 in the front. thanks for the advise guys.
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Re: tires???

Go with 275s... a 245 tires IS TOO NARROW!!! Corey I cant believe you of all people are telling him a 245 is the correct size. I had a 265 on my 9" rim and it was even too narrow. Saleen puts 265's on their wheels stock. Go with 275s, its worth it.... and it does have to do with the tire that causes curb rash. If the tires too narrow, it has no protection to the lip of the rim... thus causing rash if you accidently get too close to a curb. Personally Id rather spend the extra 20 bucks per tire to get the 275's then have to buy new rims cause I rash them up.

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Go with 275s... a 245 tires IS TOO NARROW!!! Corey I cant believe you of all people are telling him a 245 is the correct size. I had a 265 on my 9" rim and it was even too narrow. Saleen puts 265's on their wheels stock. Go with 275s, its worth it.... and it does have to do with the tire that causes curb rash. If the tires too narrow, it has no protection to the lip of the rim... thus causing rash if you accidently get too close to a curb. Personally Id rather spend the extra 20 bucks per tire to get the 275's then have to buy new rims cause I rash them up.

GO WITH 275s!!!
Dude Ford puts 245's on 17X9 rims. I also told him 255's but it is up to him. Why do the rims need protection???? BAD DRIVING??? I think so

How about staying off the damn curbs JESUS CHRIST!!!! You guys are bad as my wife scraping curbs!!!! Hell you guys need curb feelers!!!

I also hate tires so big up front they scrub in tight turns!!! Just like lowering your car so low you cant get a floor jack under it. You guys actually get the puny little sissor jack and raise it enough to get a floor jack under it. That is absurd!!! BY GOD
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Dude Ford puts 245's on 17X9 rims. I also told him 255's but it is up to him. Why do the rims need protection???? BAD DRIVING??? I think so

How about staying off the damn curbs JESUS CHRIST!!!! You guys are bad as my wife scraping curbs!!!! Hell you guys need curb feelers!!!

I also hate tires so big up front they scrub in tight turns!!! Just like lowering your car so low you cant get a floor jack under it. You guys actually get the puny little sissor jack and raise it enough to get a floor jack under it. That is absurd!!! BY GOD
Just two people to lift up the fenders... or 2 pieces of wood... lol
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Dude Ford puts 245's on 17X9 rims. I also told him 255's but it is up to him. Why do the rims need protection???? BAD DRIVING??? I think so!

What did ford put 17x9's with 245s on?

Rims need protection because depsite popular belief, everyone is not perfect at all times. Its not a matter of purposefully slamming your car into the curb because no one really does that. However, if youre taking a right hand turn and misjudge where the rear of your car is, or end up sliding because of environmental elements, then that protection is nice to have.

Personally I dont call myself a bad driver, and I still like having that protection there to not only protect my investment, but to have a tire that doesnt look like it belongs on a 240sx in a drift competition. Sidewall is good, and when its stretched to holy hell, it looks terrible! Not only that, but it wears your tires unevenly when your sidewall is stretched like that. And yes, a 245mm wide tire on a 9" rim WILL be stretched.
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yesterday i went to a goodyear tire store to look at tires and they told me that 275's will be way too big. even on the back tires. but im still gonna go with 275 in the back. but i dont want to worry about the tires rubbing on tight turns so ill get something a little smaller in the front.
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yesterday i went to a goodyear tire store to look at tires and they told me that 275's will be way too big. even on the back tires. but im still gonna go with 275 in the back. but i dont want to worry about the tires rubbing on tight turns so ill get something a little smaller in the front.
If they're telling you 275s are "way too big" for a 9 inch wheel, I'd look for a different tire shop. They obviously do not know what they are talking about. For example... 2003-2004 Cobras came with 17x9 wheels with 275/40/17s all around. Ford has been putting 245/45/17s on 17x8 Mustang wheels for years now (just stopped in 05)... why would a 30mm increase in tire size be "too big" for a 25.4mm (one inch) increase in wheel size? 4.6mm is a very miniscule difference.

I wish I could talk you in to reconsidering the front size, because the rubbing is not really an issue. The only time you have to worry about it is when you're trying to get into a tight parking space or something of that nature. I'm not sure what year your car is, but with a 94+ it is barely a problem at all. Try talking to people like SpectorV who have actually ran 275s on a 9 wide wheel up front and see how they liked them. I'm sure anyone who has will recommend them.
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I have 285's on the front of mine and its not a problem unless im at full lock in to park. Even then, its not that bad, you just hear a little rubbing... nothing major. I would strongly recommend AT LEAST a 265 on the front. If 275 is too big for your taste, then at least go with a 265 so your rim is still covered a little bit and you dont have a rediculous lookingstretched tire.
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i have a 00' v6. ill ask around and see what other people have to say. but do the 245's really look that bad??what do you guys think about sumitomo tires?? b/c i found some on tire rack.com and for really cheap.
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sumitomo are great tires as far a traction on dry summer pavement and are fairly good on wet roads and provide decent protection from hydroplaning. They suck for winter tires and most sumitomo have poor tread wear characteristics which you will probably not get 15,000 miles off them. As far as getting tires I would say stay with at least 255 but like Zim said look into 265's also. I dont think 245's look bad on 17X9 rims
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yesterday i went to a goodyear tire store to look at tires and they told me that 275's will be way too big. even on the back tires. but im still gonna go with 275 in the back. but i dont want to worry about the tires rubbing on tight turns so ill get something a little smaller in the front.

Ha Ha! I had a guy at Discount tire tell me the same thing. So, I went down the road to Tire Kingdom, had them put the tires on, drove back to Discount Tire, showed the manager my reciept from Tire Kingdom and told him he needs to educate his employees!
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As far as tires go here is a ranking of summer tires.The best is General Exclaim UHP and I just ordered 4 at a unbelieveable price of $79 a tire

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I purchased a set of 03 cobra rims 17x9 in size with 255 tires on them OMG it looked bad they were stretched to no end over that rim.... 275s fit SO much better, unless you like the look of your side wall bowing across the rim and you like curb rash or at least having no protection aginst it then pay 120 bucks less and go with a smaller tire.

Ive ran 275/40/17s for 7 years now starting with a 97 mustang, then a 01 mustang, and now my 03 works fine no issues.
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I purchased a set of 03 cobra rims 17x9 in size with 255 tires on them OMG it looked bad they were stretched to no end over that rim.... 275s fit SO much better, unless you like the look of your side wall bowing across the rim and you like curb rash or at least having no protection aginst it then pay 120 bucks less and go with a smaller tire.

Ive ran 275/40/17s for 7 years now starting with a 97 mustang, then a 01 mustang, and now my 03 works fine no issues.
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I run 245/45/17 on my GT rims, i dont see how they would fit on a 17.9 rim, they only fit nice on a 17.8 I am looking at getting some Firehawk Wide Oval for my next set. only like $138 on tire rack
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I run 245/45/17 on my GT rims, i dont see how they would fit on a 17.9 rim, they only fit nice on a 17.8 I am looking at getting some Firehawk Wide Oval for my next set. only like $138 on tire rack
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