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Old 08-28-2012, 11:45 AM   #1
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Hello Stang fans, I have a '13 Mustang GT/Premium with the Optional 19/8.5 inch wheels.
I really would like to have wider tires on my car, so what maximum width tires could I fit on these wheels. They are the only optional 19 inch wheels you can get with the GT/Premium unless you opted for another package.

The wheels are the 19/8.5 Premium painted luster nickle aluminum wheels. ($1000 Option) - The OEM tires mounted on them are the Pirelli P245/45ZR19's.
When I replace these tires I would love to get at the very least a 255/45 or 40 or better yet a 265/45 or 40 tires. I would stay Pirelli's I guess. I am happy so far with only 1500 miles on them.

DO I NEED to get wider Rims to increase to these wider tires or can I stay with these 19/8.5 OEM rims I have now and love on the car.

Thanks for any help and suggestions,
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I'm interested in that as well for my 13' gr
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Hello Stang fans, I have a '13 Mustang GT/Premium with the Optional 19/8.5 inch wheels.
I really would like to have wider tires on my car, so what maximum width tires could I fit on these wheels. They are the only optional 19 inch wheels you can get with the GT/Premium unless you opted for another package.

The wheels are the 19/8.5 Premium painted luster nickle aluminum wheels. ($1000 Option) - The OEM tires mounted on them are the Pirelli P245/45ZR19's.
When I replace these tires I would love to get at the very least a 255/45 or 40 or better yet a 265/45 or 40 tires. I would stay Pirelli's I guess. I am happy so far with only 1500 miles on them.

DO I NEED to get wider Rims to increase to these wider tires or can I stay with these 19/8.5 OEM rims I have now and love on the car.

Thanks for any help and suggestions,
Try a 290 or a 315-335

I fit a 315/35/17 on my 17x9
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I highly recommend against anything more than a 265, which really is not a common size for car tires. I've heard of people trying 275 but because of the sidewall bulge I could only imagine how the ride feels. I think your best bet would be 255/40. If you absolutely NEED wide I would recommend a wider wheel.

Pirellis are good for the all season but there are much better all season tires for less and much better hipo tires for less also. Do you want hipo or all season?
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I highly recommend against anything more than a 265, which really is not a common size for car tires. I've heard of people trying 275 but because of the sidewall bulge I could only imagine how the ride feels. I think your best bet would be 255/40. If you absolutely NEED wide I would recommend a wider wheel.

Pirellis are good for the all season but there are much better all season tires for less and much better hipo tires for less also. Do you want hipo or all season?
You are highly against 265? But yet your running 275.. Okay

275 Are my front tires.. Im running 315s in my rear and couldnt be happier..

Wide as hell and get alot of compliments and no rub
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Hello Stang fans, I have a '13 Mustang GT/Premium with the Optional 19/8.5 inch wheels.
I really would like to have wider tires on my car, so what maximum width tires could I fit on these wheels. They are the only optional 19 inch wheels you can get with the GT/Premium unless you opted for another package.

The wheels are the 19/8.5 Premium painted luster nickle aluminum wheels. ($1000 Option) - The OEM tires mounted on them are the Pirelli P245/45ZR19's.
When I replace these tires I would love to get at the very least a 255/45 or 40 or better yet a 265/45 or 40 tires. I would stay Pirelli's I guess. I am happy so far with only 1500 miles on them.

DO I NEED to get wider Rims to increase to these wider tires or can I stay with these 19/8.5 OEM rims I have now and love on the car.

Thanks for any help and suggestions,
I had 275/40s on my 19 stock wheels and they were fine. Handled great and great ride. But they are BFG SS comp2s. 275 is actually the largest recommended width for 8.5 in wheels.
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Get performance tires.. All seasonal will dissapoint you with traction..

Goodyear Eagle R1 are good,
BFG Goodrich..

Nitto 555 ..
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You are highly against 265? But yet your running 275.. Okay

275 Are my front tires.. Im running 315s in my rear and couldnt be happier..

Wide as hell and get alot of compliments and no rub
I'm running a 275 on a 9" wide wheel... He has 8.5" wide wheels... 275's will work but there will likely be some sidewall over bulge, maybe you should Reread my post. Never said I was against 275's with the correct size wheel. I'm running 275's on all four corners. And I know there is no rub. Everything I said was in reference to his wheel size so Reread my post. And I know I said that twice, that's to put the emphasis on knowing what you're talking about before you try to make someone look stupid

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Get performance tires.. All seasonal will dissapoint you with traction..

Goodyear Eagle R1 are good,
BFG Goodrich..

Nitto 555 ..
Do you know what kind of weather conditions he uses his car in? Or if he cares as much about performance as all season traction?

OP, what do you want out of the tire?
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Re: Wider Tires on oem wheels

Well all you guys, Thanks for coming through with you responses and advice about my tire options. I wasn't even sure if I could add anything wider on those 19x8.5 wheels. Now I know I can search for the tire I want to get. I will see what Goodyear (Eagle R1) and Michelin (PS2, Super Sport) have to offer in a 265 to 275 HP tire. I was checking out Pirelli Ultra High Performance and they were $459 each on I think The Tire Rack or maybe it was another site. YOW!!! Don't think I want to spend $2000 on tires that might get 15 - 20 thousand miles on them. I will keep in touch.

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Try a 290 or a 315-335

I fit a 315/35/17 on my 17x9
315 on 9 inch? Foreal dam thts crazy I gotta see tht to believe that
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I put 275's all around on my 2011 5.0, but brembo package rims.
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How wide is the Brembo wheel?
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The Brembo is 8.5" I think. My car has a 255 on it from the showroom; I don't think I'd go wider than a 275 on them.
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Re: Wider Tires on oem wheels

Alright Y'all, Man, thanks for all your input guys and gals. I was up until 4am last night browsing the internet until I was feeling dizzy from the comp screen.
Anyway, listening and paying attention to you all, I learned a hell of a lot and with all my browsing I learned a little more too. I pretty much know now what I could probably get away with on my stock wheels, but I want it done by the book all the way around with 0 regrets or hassles. Every single tire I researched on the internet sites (Tire Rack for one), state that the rim width ranges for a 275 tire/any profile is at least 9 - 11 inches. There might have been only one exception with a very low profile like a 30 or 35 profile.
Even the rare 265 tire size calls for a 9 - 11 wheel width.

My '13 GT/premium optional wheels are 19x8.5's. (P245/45ZR19)
With the Brembo Package the wheels are definitely 19x9's. (P255/40ZR19)

Well it looks like I will be getting a new wheel package with the summer ZR rated tires in the sizes that I want. 275 or 285 rear with 255's up front. I will keep the other wheels and tires with all seasons for the winter months.
There goes another $4 grand, I guess. Then I will want brembo's. More OT for me.
Thanks to you all. I will be in touch!
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Alright Y'all, Man, thanks for all your input guys and gals. I was up until 4am last night browsing the internet until I was feeling dizzy from the comp screen.
Anyway, listening and paying attention to you all, I learned a hell of a lot and with all my browsing I learned a little more too. I pretty much know now what I could probably get away with on my stock wheels, but I want it done by the book all the way around with 0 regrets or hassles. Every single tire I researched on the internet sites (Tire Rack for one), state that the rim width ranges for a 275 tire/any profile is at least 9 - 11 inches. There might have been only one exception with a very low profile like a 30 or 35 profile.
Even the rare 265 tire size calls for a 9 - 11 wheel width.

My '13 GT/premium optional wheels are 19x8.5's. (P245/45ZR19)
With the Brembo Package the wheels are definitely 19x9's. (P255/40ZR19)

Well it looks like I will be getting a new wheel package with the summer ZR rated tires in the sizes that I want. 275 or 285 rear with 255's up front. I will keep the other wheels and tires with all seasons for the winter months.
There goes another $4 grand, I guess. Then I will want brembo's. More OT for me.
Thanks to you all. I will be in touch!
Good!! Glad you got your answers. Your best bet with the splits fitment you mention will be 255/40 and 285/35, these will be the closest in diameter compared to any of the 275's, they will be significantly taller or shorter (in relative tire terms)

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An you should be able to get decent wheels and tires for around $2000 unless you want best of the best, then 4k is your price range lol
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Re: Wider Tires on oem wheels

Thanks for the tips!! I just thought of another expense I forgot about. The TPMS valves for the new tires and wheels. I think they're about $200 a piece from Ford. What a major hassle to change four wheel and tires. I never even wanted the TPMS on my cars. Who really needs it. Maybe I will have the monitoring system disengaged by Ford service, so the warning chime doesn't keep going off and I have to look at a warning light on my dash all the time. I opened up a can of worms here!!!
Man, you can't even put a nice valve cap on the TPMS valves. They have to be a certain length to cover the long valve stem threads, they can't be made of metal or they will fuse to your valve stem and there goes $200 a pop. Almost as bad as the Run Flats that ride like bricks.

I'll get there!! Have to pick out my wheels first, then I will see what tires I can get. I'm getting dizzy again...

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I wouldn't go wider than 255s on factory 8.5" wheels. 9" wide I'd say 285s.
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Re: Wider Tires on oem wheels

Yeah, Thanks buddy, You are right on the money with that. Actually, now that I did a lot of internet searching, it seems that:

8.5" - wheel is the bare minimum size for the 255 tires
9" - wheel is the bare minimum size for the 275 tires

Tire Manufacturers Specifications, but I'm sure as posted on this forum, you can stretch the truth a little.

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I have a base model 2014 GT with the 18"rims. Can I fit a 265 on the rear? Or an I going to have to get a wider wheel?
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Hello Stang fans, I have a '13 Mustang GT/Premium with the Optional 19/8.5 inch wheels.
I really would like to have wider tires on my car, so what maximum width tires could I fit on these wheels. They are the only optional 19 inch wheels you can get with the GT/Premium unless you opted for another package.

The wheels are the 19/8.5 Premium painted luster nickle aluminum wheels. ($1000 Option) - The OEM tires mounted on them are the Pirelli P245/45ZR19's.
When I replace these tires I would love to get at the very least a 255/45 or 40 or better yet a 265/45 or 40 tires. I would stay Pirelli's I guess. I am happy so far with only 1500 miles on them.

DO I NEED to get wider Rims to increase to these wider tires or can I stay with these 19/8.5 OEM rims I have now and love on the car.

Thanks for any help and suggestions,
let me preface this with, I don't completely understand the dynamics of this since i didn't do it....

My car I bought used from the origional owner. He had the stock rims made wider to accomodate larger tires. I'm running 285s on the rear with a spacer. And he definately did something to the rim as he gave me the two stock rims along with it (he bought 2 rims solely for this purpose) I understand its not super cheap to do this, but on the other hand its cheaper than buying all new rims especially if they are what you want.
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You can fit a tire that is 2.8 inches wider than the rims.. And there is 25.4mm in and inch so figure up y'all selfs how wide of a tire you can fit on a rim. I fit 275 tires on my 8 inch rims you just gotta have the newer tire install machine to get the beads in.

According to my calculations here is the max size tire that could fit on the size rims (max)

And yes every brand tire is alittle wider or skinnier than others. Like Slow4v fit 315 on 9 inch rims.. I bet they were nittos huh? Because they run skinnier than other brands..

8-275
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The suggested and max tire you can run on rims

8 inch rims 245-275
8.5 inch rims 255-285
9 inch rims 275-295
9.5 inch rims 285-315
10 inch rims 295-325
10.5 inch rims 305-335
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Yea i wouldn't recommend going above 325 for a 10.5, and 315 for a 10, anything higher would be pushing it.
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Yea i wouldn't recommend going above 325 for a 10.5, and 315 for a 10, anything higher would be pushing it.
No you could do it. It would bludge, you'd have sidewall flex, and barley a crown, you can make it fit. Now I wouldn't recommend like going to drift events in it though I can defiantly see something going wrong there..

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It'd be the same as fitting a 275 on an 8 inch rim. Tire 2.8 inches wider than the rim. (50.8 mm wider)
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I never said you couldn't do it. It just really ain't the greatest idea.
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let me preface this with, I don't completely understand the dynamics of this since i didn't do it....

My car I bought used from the origional owner. He had the stock rims made wider to accomodate larger tires. I'm running 285s on the rear with a spacer. And he definately did something to the rim as he gave me the two stock rims along with it (he bought 2 rims solely for this purpose) I understand its not super cheap to do this, but on the other hand its cheaper than buying all new rims especially if they are what you want.
How do you get your oem wheels wider?
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How do you get your oem wheels wider?
What he did was have them cut and professionally welded in the center.
If you're interested and in the area I was looking to sell them with the tires as I'm planning on selling the car in the spring. I'm in Long Island New York
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What he did was have them cut and professionally welded in the center.
If you're interested and in the area I was looking to sell them with the tires as I'm planning on selling the car in the spring. I'm in Long Island New York
I'm in rapid city, sd. I would if i were there though. Anyone know of locations that offer this service?
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Tpms sensors from new takeoff.com

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