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Old 11-02-2012, 08:28 PM   #1
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My tire size is 235/55/17 98w I know understand everything except wat the 98w means?? Ha
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98w is the speed and load rating of the tire.
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Old 11-02-2012, 09:00 PM   #3
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98w is the speed and load rating of the tire.
So like its safe to go up to 98 mph or wat? Lol
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Old 11-02-2012, 11:57 PM   #4
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no the 98 means each tire has a load capacity of 1609 lbs...the W means it could safely go up to 168mph

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that being said that size is more common on an s197 not a new edge. i've run that size before and it looked off to me. so i went back to a 245/45/17 on the front and 275/40/17s on the back
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no the 98 means each tire has a load capacity of 1609 lbs...the W means it could safely go up to 168mph

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that being said that size is more common on an s197 not a new edge. i've run that size before and it looked off to me. so i went back to a 245/45/17 on the front and 275/40/17s on the back
Ohhh ha I feel dumb! And ya it looks like a little to much tire on my rims :/ but its a really smooth ride and i still get compliments
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:13 AM   #6
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the smooth ride is from the taller sidewalls. and no need to feel dumb...i only know tire stuff because i did alot of research before buying my Kumo's a few weeks ago
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:16 AM   #7
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Ohhh ha I feel dumb! And ya it looks like a little to much tire on my rims :/ but its a really smooth ride and i still get compliments
Don't feel dumb. Their code system is wack anyway. I thought the number before the letter was the production date? 98 meaning 9th week of 2008? No?
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Don't feel dumb. Their code system is wack anyway. I thought the number before the letter was the production date? 98 meaning 9th week of 2008? No?
nope that's the load index

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Using a P195/60R15 87S tire size as our example, the 87S at the end of the size represents the tire's service description. A service description identifies the tire's load index and speed rating. Service Descriptions are required on all speed rated (except for Z-speed rated) tires manufactured since 1991.

The first two digits (87S) represent the tire's load index and are followed by a single letter (87S) identifying the tire's speed rating.

Load Index

P195/60R15 87S - The load index (87) is the tire size's assigned numerical value used to compare relative load carrying capabilities. In the case of our example the 87 identifies the tires ability to carry approximately 1,201 pounds.

The higher the tire's load index number, the greater its load carrying capacity.

89 = 1,279 pounds
88 = 1,235 pounds
87 = 1,201 pounds
86 = 1,168 pounds
85 = 1,135 pounds

A tire with a higher load index than that of the Original Equipment tire indicates an increase in load capacity. A tire with a load index equal to that of the Original Equipment tire indicates an equivalent load capacity. A tire with a lower load index than the Original Equipment tire indicates the tire does not equal the load capacity of the original.

Typically, the load indexes of the tires used on passenger cars and light trucks range from 70 to 110.

Load Index Pounds Kilograms
Load Index Pounds Kilograms
71 761 345 91 1356 615
72 783 355 92 1389 630
73 805 365 93 1433 650
74 827 375 94 1477 670
75 853 387 95 521 690
76 882 400 96 1565 710
77 908 412 97 1609 730
78 937 425 98 1653 750
79 963 437 99 1709 775
80 992 450 100 1764 800
81 1019 462 101 1819 825
82 1047 475 102 1874 850
83 1074 487 103 1929 875
84 1102 500 104 1984 900
85 1135 515 105 2039 925
86 1168 530 106 2094 950
87 1201 545 107 2149 975
88 1235 560 108 2205 1000
89 1279 580 109 2271 1030
90 1323 600 110 2337 1060

Speed Rating

In Germany some highways do not have speed limits and high speed driving is permitted. Speed ratings were established to match the speed capability of tires with the top speed capability of the vehicles to which they are applied. Speed ratings are established in kilometers per hour and subsequently converted to miles per hour (which explains why speed ratings appear established at "unusual" mile per hour increments). Despite the tire manufacturer's ability to manufacturer tires capable of high speeds, none of them recommend the use of their products in excess of legal speed limits. The maximum operating speed of a vehicle must be limited to the lowest speed rated tire on the vehicle.

Speed ratings are based on laboratory tests where the tire is pressed against a large diameter metal drum to reflect its appropriate load, and run at ever increasing speeds (in 6.2 mph steps in 10 minute increments) until the tire's required speed has been met.

It is important to note that speed ratings only apply to tires that have not been damaged, altered, under-inflated or overloaded. Additionally, most tire manufacturers maintain that a tire that has been cut or punctured no longer retains the tire manufacturer's original speed rating, even after being repaired because the tire manufacturer can't control the quality of the repair.

Over the years, tire speed rating symbols have been marked on tires in any of three ways shown in the following examples:

225/50SR16 225/50SR16 89S or 225/50R16 89S

Each of these was an acceptable method of identifying speed ratings.

Early tires had their speed rating symbol shown "within" the tire size, such as 225/50SR16. Tires using this type of branding were not to have been produced after 1991.

225/50SR16 112 mph, 180 km/h
225/50HR16 130, 210 km/h
225/50VR16 in excess of 130 mph, 210 km/h

Beginning in 1991, the speed symbol denoting a fixed maximum speed capability of new tires must be shown only in the speed rating portion of the tire's service description, such as 225/50R16 89S. The most common tire speed rating symbols, maximum speeds and typical applications are shown below:

L 75 mph 120 km/h Off-Road & Light Truck Tires
M 81 mph 130 km/h Temporary Spare Tires
N 87 mph 140km/h
P 93 mph 150 km/h
Q 99 mph 160 km/h Studless & Studdable Winter Tires
R 106 mph 170 km/h H.D. Light Truck Tires
S 112 mph 180 km/h Family Sedans & Vans
T 118 mph 190 km/h Family Sedans & Vans
U 124 mph 200 km/h
H 130 mph 210 km/h Sport Sedans & Coupes
V 149 mph 240 km/h Sport Sedans, Coupes & Sports Cars

When Z-speed rated tires were first introduced, they were thought to reflect the highest tire speed rating that would ever be required, in excess of 240 km/h or 149 mph. While Z-speed rated tires are capable of speeds in excess of 149 mph, how far above 149 mph was not identified. That ultimately caused the automotive industry to add W- and Y-speed ratings to identify the tires that meet the needs of new vehicles that have extremely high top-speed capabilities.

W 168 mph 270 km/h Exotic Sports Cars
Y 186 mph 300 km/h Exotic Sports Cars

While a Z-speed rating still often appears in the tire size designation of these tires, such as 225/50ZR16 91W, the Z in the size signifies a maximum speed capability in excess of 149 mph, 240 km/h; the W in the service description indicates the tire's 168 mph, 270 km/h maximum speed.

225/50ZR16 in excess of 149 mph, 240 km/h
205/45ZR17 88W 168 mph, 270 km/h
285/35ZR19 99Y 186 mph, 300 km/h

Most recently, when the Y-speed rating indicated in a service description is enclosed in parentheses, such as 285/35ZR19 (99Y), the top speed of the tire has been tested in excess of 186 mph, 300 km/h indicated by the service description as shown below:

285/35ZR19 99Y 186 mph, 300 km/h
285/35ZR19 (99Y) in excess of 186 mph, 300 km/h

As vehicles have increased their top speeds into Autobahn-only ranges, the tire speed ratings have evolved to better identify the tires capability, allowing drivers to match the speed of their tires with the top speed of their vehicle.

i copy pasted this so sorry the load index got bunched
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Holy****! I just unleashed a **** storm of information! Lol,
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yeah i just checked the tire faq sticky and i'm surprised it doesn't really have any info on tires...just basic info. maybe a link to a more detailed tire info site can be added to the sticky?
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Beast! Now that chart thing makes perfect sense! Ha
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glad it helped man...i keep a folder just for tech info links on my favorites bar just for these situations lol
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glad it helped man...i keep a folder just for tech info links on my favorites bar just for these situations lol
Koo koo ha I didn't know tires had speed ratings tho lol well it makes sense but it never crossed my mind
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Yea...and its not common for 95% of cars to ever get close to their ratings safety max.
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Yea...and its not common for 95% of cars to ever get close to their ratings safety max.
Now that i think about it I got my moms car to 105 wen I was like 15 lol amd her tires r rated for 115 Lmao that coulda been bad xD
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