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Old 04-13-2016, 11:26 PM   #1
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Negative camber! Not good!!!

Year later after lowering.
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Old 04-14-2016, 01:19 AM   #2
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An alignment would have been helpful.

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An alignment would have been helpful.

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Yea and some camber bolts
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Old 04-14-2016, 07:56 AM   #4
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Camber bolts aren't needed. You can run 1-2 degrees of negative camber without seeing too much wear, as long as your alignment is good and toe is near 0.
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Camber bolts aren't needed. You can run 1-2 degrees of negative camber without seeing too much wear, as long as your alignment is good and toe is near 0.

Do you know what they do to adjust the camber
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They move the strut at the top of the mount. If they can't get it into range you need castor/camber plates. Camber bolts are dangerous, they are much smaller than the stock bolts and are known to shear or break.

Your wear pattern looks way worse than it should for a couple degrees of camber so either your have like 3-4 degrees of camber, or I'm guessing toe is too much. They should be able to fix toe even without camber bolts or plates.
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They move the strut at the top of the mount. If they can't get it into range you need castor/camber plates. Camber bolts are dangerous, they are much smaller than the stock bolts and are known to shear or break.

Your wear pattern looks way worse than it should for a couple degrees of camber so either your have like 3-4 degrees of camber, or I'm guessing toe is too much. They should be able to fix toe even without camber bolts or plates.

Is $150 too much for alignment? they asked me for the year and model and if I was lowered with aftermarket wheels
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Is $150 too much for alignment? they asked me for the year and model and if I was lowered with aftermarket wheels
Depending on circumstances and shops, that price is likely average. It is a little on the high side in my opinion, but not unreasonable.

The wheel and tire shop I use typically charges about $65 for a front end alignment.

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They move the strut at the top of the mount. If they can't get it into range you need castor/camber plates. Camber bolts are dangerous, they are much smaller than the stock bolts and are known to shear or break.

Your wear pattern looks way worse than it should for a couple degrees of camber so either your have like 3-4 degrees of camber, or I'm guessing toe is too much. They should be able to fix toe even without camber bolts or plates.
I just noticed that you're in Cali. The price you have is likely the average there. Prices for everything on the left coast are a bit more inflated than they are in the South East.

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Is $150 too much for alignment? they asked me for the year and model and if I was lowered with aftermarket wheels

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They move the strut at the top of the mount. If they can't get it into range you need castor/camber plates. Camber bolts are dangerous, they are much smaller than the stock bolts and are known to shear or break.

Your wear pattern looks way worse than it should for a couple degrees of camber so either your have like 3-4 degrees of camber, or I'm guessing toe is too much. They should be able to fix toe even without camber bolts or plates.

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The red numbers measured before adjustment are outside of the accepted range. It may not look like a lot, but it is just enough to cause the tires to be pushed down the road rather than roll as they should.

Pushing and dragging down the road are exaggerated terms, but it is a small visual of what is happening. There is a little bit of resistance in the rolling.

With an alignment all should be normal.

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I've been too lazy to get an alignment since lowering... All four wheels look like this from rotating them, giving them all a turn at being camber life in the front lol.

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The red numbers measured before adjustment are outside of the accepted range. It may not look like a lot, but it is just enough to cause the tires to be pushed down the road rather than roll as they should.

Pushing and dragging down the road are exaggerated terms, but it is a small visual of what is happening. There is a little bit of resistance in the rolling.

With an alignment all should be normal.

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So what part in the paper made my wheels bald on the inside
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I've been too lazy to get an alignment since lowering... All four wheels look like this from rotating them, giving them all a turn at being camber life in the front lol.

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Negative camber! Not good!!!

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So what part in the paper made my wheels bald on the inside
I don't think the paper itself had an impact on your alignment. I've never seen a standard sheet of office paper have an influence on a car's alignment.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

The toe was out a few hundredths of an inch.

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I don't think the paper itself had an impact on your alignment. I've never seen a standard sheet of office paper have an influence on a car's alignment.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

The toe was out a few hundredths of an inch.

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Believe what noldevin said about extreme inner edge wear is primarily toe adjustment.
And as many probably know, Ford does not recommend camber adjustment except as outlined in their service manual, which is by slotting the bottom hole of the strut and using their "service repair kit (3C396)".
Ford Service Manuals - GENERAL PROCEDURES = Covers the procedure to grind out bottom hole in struts.
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It was toe just like I said. 0.4 is quite a lot of toe, I probably would have asked if they could get it any lower than .18 but it should be much better now.
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