Throttle body spacer...? - Mustang Evolution

Go Back   Mustang Evolution > 4 Cylinder | V6 | Classic Mustangs || Tech and Talk > Pre-2005 V6 Mustang



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them here!
Old 03-31-2009, 03:53 PM   #1
Registered Member
Regular
 
stangaroo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Region: California
Posts: 716
Throttle body spacer...?

Some dude on youtube (Spader04) has vids up of his 4.0 hitting 60 in 5.5 seconds. He claims that only an air intake and a throttle body spacer is making this possible. I was under the impression that throttle body spacers were a scam. I'm not calling the guy a liar by any means, but will those really do anything at all for performance? If so, what's the best one
stangaroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 03-31-2009, 07:51 PM   #2
Registered Member
Regular
 
upton7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Region: Illinois
Posts: 1,756
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

it does nothing at all he's full of **** its a waste of 40 bucks
upton7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2009, 09:10 PM   #3
Registered Member
Regular
 
bobbyoooo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Region: New York
Posts: 155
Send a message via AIM to bobbyoooo
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

doesnt it add like 1-3 hp cuz of the greater air flow
__________________
<a href=http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo82/sicotickiller/mustang-2.jpg target=_blank>http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/o.../mustang-2.jpg</a> <--- click for exhaust clip
01 gt AUTO mods: MAC LT headers, O/R prochamber, borla mufflers, eiback pro kit 03 cobra rims still to come: K&N CAI, BBK 75mm TB, Steeda ud pulleys
"spendin money that I don't have to buy parts that I don't need to impress people that I don't know who prolly don't even care...."
bobbyoooo is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 03-31-2009, 09:23 PM   #4
Registered Member
Regular
 
hottcobra's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Region: Louisiana
Posts: 2,638
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

they do nothing bottom line
__________________

2006 Mustang GT lots of mods ex wife has it
1979 corvette stingray #'s matching 47K org. miles
1970Chevelle SS 454 big block Old School 500hp Sold
hottcobra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2009, 09:45 PM   #5
Registered Member
Regular
 
stangaroo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Region: California
Posts: 716
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

So now he's saying that a throttle body, cai, 93 octane (without tune) underdeuve pulley GT takeoff exhaust and screaming demon coil pack with high performance wires is getting it to hit 60 in 5.2! Is this bull**** or what? What the hell is a coil pack? What do performance wires do?
stangaroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2009, 09:48 PM   #6
Registered Member
Regular
 
upton7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Region: Illinois
Posts: 1,756
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

its like a distributor
upton7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2009, 09:58 PM   #7
Registered Member
Regular
 
stangaroo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Region: California
Posts: 716
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

Quote:
Originally Posted by upton7 View Post
its like a distributor
Does upgrading the thing do anything in terms of performance?
stangaroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2009, 09:59 PM   #8
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Region: Iowa
Posts: 414
Send a message via AIM to Horse Send a message via Yahoo to Horse
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

It's a performance part that he doesn't need, if that's all he's done. If he was running very high compression or a lot of boost from a turbo/supercharger then he'd maybe need it.

The spacer doesn't do anything. Plenum spacers do help some if for no other reason than they increase overall plenum volume a small amount.
__________________
4.2L , CAI, BBK 65MM throttle body, 30lb injectors, SSM ported intakes, FLEX 1/2" spacer, RPM big valve heads, Comp roller rockers and cam, ASP-underdrive pulley, GT rear swaybar, & Quad Shocks, Full MM Coilover conversion, 17" Grey Torque Thrust wheels, FMS Aluminum driveshaft 8.8 rear w/ 3.73 gears, Tri-Ax Shorthrow shifter & SPEC stage II clutch w/ aluminum flywheel
Horse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2009, 11:56 AM   #9
Moderator Emeritus
Legacy
Regular
 
SpectorV's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Region: Alabama
Posts: 26,049
Send a message via AIM to SpectorV
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

how did 5.5 seconds get calculated, with the magic of a stop watch or counting? Its not accurate im sure.
__________________
2003 Cobra Vert (Redfire) #3938 of 5082 @ 05/27/2003
472rwhp/493rwtq -Modification List - Dyno Sheet
2012 Mustang 3.7L M6 (Kona Blue)
2011 Ford Edge Sport (Red Metallic)
SpectorV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2009, 12:26 PM   #10
Legacy Member
Legacy
 
Herbstang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Region: Florida
Posts: 2,932
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

Bet ya the guys eyes are brown from the bull**** building up
__________________

Mods-K&N CAI , True Dual Flowmaster 40, BBK Ceramic Shorties, 3.73 , 25% UDP, 3/8 Phenolic Intake Spacer ,Steeda Tri-ax, SCT Chip/Dyno Tune

Quote:
"Some people are like Slinkies; useless, but fun to push down the stairs."
Herbstang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2009, 03:17 PM   #11
Registered Member
Regular
 
stangaroo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Region: California
Posts: 716
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpectorV View Post
how did 5.5 seconds get calculated, with the magic of a stop watch or counting? Its not accurate im sure.
I took a stopwatch to it (that can't be responsible for a full 1 second mistake can it?)

I accused the guy of using spray and he denied it, here's the actual video itself:



notice a 37 seconds those blue wires that look a hell of a lot like direct port nitrous injection... hmmmm...
stangaroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2009, 03:35 PM   #12
Registered Member
Regular
 
bloodyspirit058's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Region: Oregon
Posts: 384
Send a message via MSN to bloodyspirit058
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

maybe a really incorrect speedo? lol i watched a couple of those, not sure exactly whats up with it, his check engine light is on though
__________________
It's cheaper to be beat a viper than to lose in one.

1994 GT, stock gears, stock shifter, stock engine, stock rims (or knock offs).

Quote:
Originally Posted by sti2gsxr
There was a case of the stuff stacked at the end of an aisle. Definately not cold or in the cooler. Also it was over $7 for the two bottles.
bloodyspirit058 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2009, 03:36 PM   #13
15.3 Second V8 Killer Yo
Legacy
Regular
 
PureVenom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Region: Louisiana
Posts: 7,212
Send a message via AIM to PureVenom Send a message via MSN to PureVenom Send a message via Yahoo to PureVenom
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

Those blue wires are plug wires.
__________________
"When I know more, I'll be forthcoming. Or I won't be forthcoming, and I'll be honestly deceptive." - Les Miles
PureVenom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2009, 03:37 PM   #14
15.3 Second V8 Killer Yo
Legacy
Regular
 
PureVenom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Region: Louisiana
Posts: 7,212
Send a message via AIM to PureVenom Send a message via MSN to PureVenom Send a message via Yahoo to PureVenom
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

Find out if he has 4.10's...
__________________
"When I know more, I'll be forthcoming. Or I won't be forthcoming, and I'll be honestly deceptive." - Les Miles
PureVenom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2009, 03:45 PM   #15
Registered Member
Regular
 
SaleenFiend's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Louisiana
Region: Louisiana
Posts: 2,318
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

Dude! Like dis guy iz fer realz! Thiz **** like wat!? Those TeeBee spacahs are sickena. You see proof wuts da prob?
SaleenFiend is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2009, 03:45 PM   #16
Registered Member
Regular
 
SaleenFiend's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Louisiana
Region: Louisiana
Posts: 2,318
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

/sarcasm or post whoring
SaleenFiend is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2009, 03:55 PM   #17
Registered Member
Regular
 
stangaroo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Region: California
Posts: 716
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

Quote:
Originally Posted by PureVenom View Post
Those blue wires are plug wires.
doh...
stangaroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2009, 04:39 PM   #18
Registered Member
Regular
 
stangaroo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Region: California
Posts: 716
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

Quote:
Originally Posted by PureVenom View Post
Find out if he has 4.10's...
I'll ask but it wasn't on his mod list, would those really help the 0-60 that much though? I think 4.10s would get you to 60 in third gear...
stangaroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2009, 04:40 PM   #19
15.3 Second V8 Killer Yo
Legacy
Regular
 
PureVenom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Region: Louisiana
Posts: 7,212
Send a message via AIM to PureVenom Send a message via MSN to PureVenom Send a message via Yahoo to PureVenom
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

You said he was untuned. untuned, 4.10's will make the speedo read waaaaaaaay off. You'd be doing 40ish when the speedo says 60.
__________________
"When I know more, I'll be forthcoming. Or I won't be forthcoming, and I'll be honestly deceptive." - Les Miles
PureVenom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2009, 04:44 PM   #20
Registered Member
Regular
 
stangaroo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Region: California
Posts: 716
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

Quote:
Originally Posted by PureVenom View Post
You said he was untuned. untuned, 4.10's will make the speedo read waaaaaaaay off. You'd be doing 40ish when the speedo says 60.
booya, never thought of that, I bet that's what's going on, I'll make sure to ask the guy
stangaroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2009, 04:48 PM   #21
Registered Member
Regular
 
stangaroo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Region: California
Posts: 716
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

ok, he just said he's goin to 3.73 and a trac-lok soon with a tune for e85 and a 100shot of NOZ in hopes that will get him to a 13 flat 1/4 mile.

1) e85? what the ****?
2) a 0-60 of 5.2 should mean he's already in the low 13 1/4 mile
3) None of this ads up, maybe he works for ford's marketing department and he's trying to boost v6 sales via youtube...
stangaroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2009, 04:51 PM   #22
15.3 Second V8 Killer Yo
Legacy
Regular
 
PureVenom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Region: Louisiana
Posts: 7,212
Send a message via AIM to PureVenom Send a message via MSN to PureVenom Send a message via Yahoo to PureVenom
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

e85 is 85% ethonol....it has an octane like race gas....

Yeah, he's not letting the entire story out. What are the stock numbers on the 6?
__________________
"When I know more, I'll be forthcoming. Or I won't be forthcoming, and I'll be honestly deceptive." - Les Miles
PureVenom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2009, 04:59 PM   #23
Registered Member
Regular
 
stangaroo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Region: California
Posts: 716
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

Quote:
Originally Posted by PureVenom View Post
e85 is 85% ethonol....it has an octane like race gas....

Yeah, he's not letting the entire story out. What are the stock numbers on the 6?
I thought e85 was about efficiency, didn't know it was like race gas, that's awesome.

The stock numbers on the 6 are 0-60 6.6(man) 6.9(auto) and 1/4 is 15.0 and 15.3.

his mods should be getting 6.3 or 6.4, with a tune I know they can dip into the 5s with drag radials (like 5.9 at best)
stangaroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2009, 05:01 PM   #24
15.3 Second V8 Killer Yo
Legacy
Regular
 
PureVenom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Region: Louisiana
Posts: 7,212
Send a message via AIM to PureVenom Send a message via MSN to PureVenom Send a message via Yahoo to PureVenom
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

Don't get too excited about e85, you would have to really beef up your fuel system to be able to run it. It takes around 33% more e85 to make the same powers as regular gas. It's great in theory as it does allow for much more aggressive setups, but it also requires a major overhaul of your entire fuel system.
__________________
"When I know more, I'll be forthcoming. Or I won't be forthcoming, and I'll be honestly deceptive." - Les Miles
PureVenom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2009, 05:03 PM   #25
Registered Member
Regular
 
stangaroo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Region: California
Posts: 716
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

The setup below is pretty badass and the dude actually has dyno proof and footage at the strip taking an SRT-4, his car should be hitting 60 in about 5.7 but it has 4.10s and a tune with cutouts and CAI

stangaroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2009, 05:05 PM   #26
Registered Member
Regular
 
stangaroo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Region: California
Posts: 716
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

Quote:
Originally Posted by PureVenom View Post
Don't get too excited about e85, you would have to really beef up your fuel system to be able to run it. It takes around 33% more e85 to make the same powers as regular gas. It's great in theory as it does allow for much more aggressive setups, but it also requires a major overhaul of your entire fuel system.
between what you just said and the fact that there are like 2 gas stations that have it, i'll pass, lol
stangaroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2009, 09:01 PM   #27
Registered Member
Regular
 
hottcobra's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Region: Louisiana
Posts: 2,638
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

I worked at a chevy dealership and was sent to school for E85 and the biggest downside is you get half the fuel mileage on E85 as you do with regular fuel
__________________

2006 Mustang GT lots of mods ex wife has it
1979 corvette stingray #'s matching 47K org. miles
1970Chevelle SS 454 big block Old School 500hp Sold
hottcobra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2009, 10:03 PM   #28
Registered Member
Regular
 
SaleenFiend's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Louisiana
Region: Louisiana
Posts: 2,318
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

Quote:
Originally Posted by PureVenom View Post
You said he was untuned. untuned, 4.10's will make the speedo read waaaaaaaay off. You'd be doing 40ish when the speedo says 60.
I tripped out a buddy of mine a while back when I went 4.30s in my 01 cobra "Dude NO way were going 100 already!!" I just laughed..

Quote:
Originally Posted by hottcobra View Post
I worked at a chevy dealership and was sent to school for E85 and the biggest downside is you get half the fuel mileage on E85 as you do with regular fuel
e85 is the dumbest "solution" to the gas crisis to date. Its efficiency is horrible. Way more energy in than energy out compared to gasoline!
SaleenFiend is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2009, 10:28 PM   #29
15.3 Second V8 Killer Yo
Legacy
Regular
 
PureVenom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Region: Louisiana
Posts: 7,212
Send a message via AIM to PureVenom Send a message via MSN to PureVenom Send a message via Yahoo to PureVenom
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

you can't tell tree huggers anything by using fact based analysis though...
__________________
"When I know more, I'll be forthcoming. Or I won't be forthcoming, and I'll be honestly deceptive." - Les Miles
PureVenom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2009, 10:31 PM   #30
Registered Member
Regular
 
upton7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Region: Illinois
Posts: 1,756
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

people get to worried about miles per gallon me i don't give a **** all i care about is dollar per gallon if i go 100miles and spent 20 on gas but spent 15 (just an example) on e85 but used twice as much i would go with e85 its like people buying deisels because they get better gas mileage but it costs more
upton7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2009, 01:54 AM   #31
Registered Member
Regular
 
bloodyspirit058's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Region: Oregon
Posts: 384
Send a message via MSN to bloodyspirit058
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

Quote:
Originally Posted by upton7 View Post
people get to worried about miles per gallon me i don't give a **** all i care about is dollar per gallon if i go 100miles and spent 20 on gas but spent 15 (just an example) on e85 but used twice as much i would go with e85 its like people buying diesels because they get better gas mileage but it costs more
i kinda understand were you're going with this, but gas companies aren't going to make e85 a zillion times cheaper, i doubt it will be lower than it usually is, so if your getting less efficiency, you have to fuel up more often.

but i think you meant paying for an entire trip, which makes since, i just don't see it being that cheap. It's also debated if it's that good cause it uses corn, which is used in a lot of foods, so food price is higher and you have to ship that food still. it's very controversial, personally my engine is to old to even dare running it, it eats seals apparently, and i doubt going through the entire engine and fuel system would be worth it.


back to subject, i was thinking the speedo thing, i didn't see any of his vids show the speedometer and outside at the same time, but i only watched a couple, just seems like for what he has in it and it being a v6, its not very real, or else what ever he's doing everyone would have done a long time ago and it would be on a wish list of the first couple mods a v6 owner did.
__________________
It's cheaper to be beat a viper than to lose in one.

1994 GT, stock gears, stock shifter, stock engine, stock rims (or knock offs).

Quote:
Originally Posted by sti2gsxr
There was a case of the stuff stacked at the end of an aisle. Definately not cold or in the cooler. Also it was over $7 for the two bottles.
bloodyspirit058 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2009, 02:07 AM   #32
Registered Member
Regular
 
upton7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Region: Illinois
Posts: 1,756
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

^^^ ya thats true if it were as cheap as some say it is it might be worth it in the long run but you get my point
upton7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2009, 03:32 AM   #33
Registered Member
Regular
 
stangaroo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Region: California
Posts: 716
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

I look at fuel efficiency this way, if my car is fast enough and I drive from San francisco to LA (which I do a lot) and the trip takes me 4 hours instead of the 6 hours it would take in a prius, I am saving 4 hours round trip. And I use those 4 extra hours at work and make more money than the value of the fuel I used on the entire trip, AND I just stimulated the economy. So technically, prius drivers can suck it.

And speeding tickets support your local county.

And doctors recomend elevated heart rate 30 minutes a day.
stangaroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2009, 11:04 AM   #34
Registered Member
Regular
 
SaleenFiend's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Louisiana
Region: Louisiana
Posts: 2,318
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

Quote:
Originally Posted by stangaroo View Post
I look at fuel efficiency this way, if my car is fast enough and I drive from San francisco to LA (which I do a lot) and the trip takes me 4 hours instead of the 6 hours it would take in a prius, I am saving 4 hours round trip. And I use those 4 extra hours at work and make more money than the value of the fuel I used on the entire trip, AND I just stimulated the economy. So technically, prius drivers can suck it.

And speeding tickets support your local county.

And doctors recomend elevated heart rate 30 minutes a day.
I like ... I like...
SaleenFiend is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2009, 09:56 PM   #35
Registered Member
Regular
 
upton7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Region: Illinois
Posts: 1,756
Re: Throttle body spacer...?

Quote:
Originally Posted by stangaroo View Post
I look at fuel efficiency this way, if my car is fast enough and I drive from San francisco to LA (which I do a lot) and the trip takes me 4 hours instead of the 6 hours it would take in a prius, I am saving 4 hours round trip. And I use those 4 extra hours at work and make more money than the value of the fuel I used on the entire trip, AND I just stimulated the economy. So technically, prius drivers can suck it.

And speeding tickets support your local county.

And doctors recomend elevated heart rate 30 minutes a day.

LOL nice
upton7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Mustang Evolution > 4 Cylinder | V6 | Classic Mustangs || Tech and Talk > Pre-2005 V6 Mustang

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Throttle Body Spacer 1234 1996-2004 Mustang GT 1 09-09-2008 01:14 AM
Throttle body spacer Greywolf Pre-2005 V6 Mustang 5 02-23-2008 01:01 AM
Throttle Body Spacer for sale ridenmystang Mustang Parts for Sale and Wanted 4 08-31-2007 09:45 AM
Throttle Body Spacer ridenmystang Mustang Parts for Sale and Wanted 2 12-16-2006 06:00 PM
Throttle Body Spacer. strike1980 Pre-2005 V6 Mustang 4 06-09-2005 12:39 PM

» Like Us On Facebook



03:59 AM


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0

MustangEvolution.com is in no way associated with or endorsed by Ford Motor Company.