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Old 04-10-2009, 09:40 PM   #1
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Does anyone have any info on these engines, such as where to find performance parts or how much power they can handle, how different these early engines are to the new ones, if the carb can handle boost or where to find one? I have an 83 GLX V-6(inmagine that) auto and its too slow, I think my truck is faster. I am thinking of swapping a T-5 in and putting a turbo(s) on it, maybe a 4.2 if that will work
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As I'm sure you're aware..the carbs on those engines are pretty primitive. Positive side of this is you can tune it yourself if you're good with carbs.

I wouldn't recommend pushing more than 7 or 8 lbs of boost through that engine however...I don't believe the early 3.8 blocks were as strong as the last generation.
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to be honest you might be better off finding a different engine, either a V8 or a turbo 4.
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^^^^ ya unless you really want to keep it a v6 (understandable) crate it up with something u can find a gt engine for around 700 i believe
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i work with a guy that says he had an SVO Mustang when he was in high school. i was like dude you should've kept that car i can see it seems to becoming a bit of a collectors car.
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I have another 83 Mustang and it already has a V8, 5-speed and it has t tops, so I dont really want to put a four banger in it or a V8. I dont want to make it fuel injected either, I just want a nice car that has some power and gets decent gas mileage so I can cruise with the top down when I want. Does anyone know if the intake manifold will fit a 4.2 or how hard it'd be to swap a turbo 2.3 in it?
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damnit.... no f.i.? cause i was totally thinkn supercoupe motor. just drop in the whole damn thing. you could do a regular 3.8 with a centrifugal.
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I would love to make it fuel injected but I imagine having to put a computer and all the wiring would be a pain. I was really thinking about the svo engine or the super coupe, that would be awesome
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I would love to make it fuel injected but I imagine having to put a computer and all the wiring would be a pain. I was really thinking about the svo engine or the super coupe, that would be awesome
my coupe was a four cylinder..and now itsa efi v8. it's not all that hard. you just need a donor car..some patience...and a plan. and im far from an electrical engineer. i started out putting tpi on a 327 in my firebird... trust me... if i can do it, anyone can do it.
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I'm thinking about putting the super coupe engine in now. I think thats a better choice than a turbo 4, not that my car weighs much anyway. Would there be any hood clearance problems with that engine?
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I'm thinking about putting the super coupe engine in now. I think thats a better choice than a turbo 4, not that my car weighs much anyway. Would there be any hood clearance problems with that engine?
i seriously dought it. it fits under a stock tbird hood...i think the most you would have to do is a 2-3 cowl...and that's iffy. however, i dont know that as a fact. ive never done one before. but you can change the pulley and get a few more pounds out of it... maybe bring you close to 300. ive seen a guy on youtube get close to 500 so i guesse anything is possible with enough boost.
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Old 04-16-2009, 09:56 PM   #12
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didn't the supercharged tbirds have head gasket problems?
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im not really sure. but i dont think iysa problem you couldnt fix with a decent gasket
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Old 04-16-2009, 10:35 PM   #14
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yeah i know felpro makes improved gaskets for some motors.
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i used oem type gaskets when i stuck my blower on...i blew both sides within 60 days of each other. i used the felpro "race gasket" and all is good in my world
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There is a guy on neco that had a built up 3L in 99 Cougar that as turbo'd and was making almost 400 fwhp at 11 psi. I'm sure the 3.8 can do 500 with no problems
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dude i totaly agree. i think an m90 blower has its limitations though. but power to weight ratio you should have a fun car even at an m90 limitations. finding the donor is gonna be the tricky part cause of the scarceness of supercoupes these days. but i think with a stock 3.8 and efi wire harness and an ebay m90 blower and a stock ecu that you would be able to tear up the streets. sourcing the hardware i think is the challenge... not the build itself. just my opinion. how far are you from columbus?
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I'm an hour/hour and a half away from Columbus, I live in Apple Valley which is 15-20 mins east of MT. Vernon. The only part I have for this now in the 5-speed tranny out of my other 83 which I think I'm stripping it and putting it on ebay.
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i would put that thing on craigslist..just my opinion. lotsa ppl bid..few ppl pay on ebay
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ok, I might do that. Any idea how much more a 4.2 weighs than the sc engine? Would it be cheaper to get that and then get an m90?
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Go to supersixsportmotorsports.com I believe that is the address for and from GA. They do things for 3.8 engines and amazingly enough powerful things with them.
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i was readn some other threads... maybe a 4.2 would be better... but u gotta downgrade the 4.2 install the m90. if u do a 3.8 with the m90 u can boost the hell outa it. if u do a 4.2 u got lotsa latemodel bolt ons to choose from. i would research the 3.8 more and find out exactly wut u can do with it before deciding one over the other. there are probably pros and cons to both. i remeber seeing some m90 blowers on ebay for cheap (rebuilt units). i would figure out a hp# u want.... source the availability of the parts as far as where are you gonna get them and how much. the 4.2 may be more expensive but easier to get parts for. you really have to research it.
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Go to supersixsportmotorsports.com I believe that is the address for and from GA. They do things for 3.8 engines and amazingly enough powerful things with them.
he meant supersixmotorsports.com
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Re: 83 3.8

so im lookn on this website and im gettn excited about maybe building a 3.8. a cam, some rockers, 24lbs injectors, and me doin my own head porting work... i think i could build a mean 3.8 all motor..or hell maybe even forced induction. my neighbor hads a 95 tbird i could get for cheap.....hmmmmm
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I going to UNOH up in Lima, Oh and taking the auto/ high performance class and I could build and machine it myself. I get some good discounts thru that school, like around a 60% discount for snap on tools. I could get alot out of it there
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