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Old 04-28-2009, 10:46 AM   #1
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hey i really wanted to know if anyone was looking to sell headers or if they knew the best place i could buy them. i was also wondering if any one could help me decide between short and long tube headers and which would sound better thanks
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Re: need new headers

Short would require less parts, namely the mid pipe. but, they are relatively useless as far as power goes. If you are going to spend the money, you might as well go with long tubes.
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do ypu tards know what section you're posting in? I wonder sometimes.

Be leary of any advice from the V8 guys, they think all cars run the same stuff sometimes.

MAC longtubes, witha MAC h-pipe, get some Magnaflow cats welded in and run a GT Magnaflow catback and you'll be set as far as exhaust goes.
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do ypu tards know what section you're posting in? I wonder sometimes.

Be leary of any advice from the V8 guys, they think all cars run the same stuff sometimes.

MAC longtubes, witha MAC h-pipe, get some Magnaflow cats welded in and run a GT Magnaflow catback and you'll be set as far as exhaust goes.
This setup is a total waste of money for any 3.8 without intake and head work. Sometimes us "V8 guys" aren't necessarily tards...we've been there before.

There is no need to put headers on a V6 without other work to the engine. Unless you just like throwing money at something for the hell of it.
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Re: need new headers

I'm sorry, I guess shorty headers are magically better for small displacement motors than they are for larger displacement motors. I guess the whole concept of scavaging and all that works differently when you have less displacement than when you have large displacement.

Either that, or you're just trying to be elitist again about your V6 and the fact that shorties are useless on any motor and provide very little if any gains.

Then again, I guess you don't know **** either because you just recommended the same thing I did as far as getting long tubes...although, you gave no reasoning other than "You'll be all set for exhaust" where as I was at least nice enough to point out that shorties are useless.

And yes, us tards know what section we are posting in...however, since you don't have to pay a fee to subscribe to specific sections of the site, we will continue to do so...specially those like Brad who have owned a V6 and done the mods that are typically asked about....but he's just a V8 tard now I guess...like the rest of us.
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All this hostility...


Has anyone had any kind of experience with Pacesetter long tube headers?
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Has anyone had any kind of experience with Pacesetter long tube headers?
Pacesetter makes some nice products.
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If you are going to Long tube (LT) headers then you have to worry about scraping when you go over speed bumps. Plus you will not be able to upgrade and get lowering springs for your mustang. I have sport spring by Eibach and i scrap my cats like crazy and i heard that the LT come down .5 inches lower than where your stock cats would be.

So think about if you ever want to lower your car before you decide.
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Get the Mac long tubes and o/r h-pipe. Best $300 i spent so far on my car. You will definately notice a difference even if you just have bolt-ons. The difference is reason enough to get them. They arent that low. You just need to be careful. I wouldnt be worried about dropping my car another .5-.75 inches.
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This setup is a total waste of money for any 3.8 without intake and head work. Sometimes us "V8 guys" aren't necessarily tards...we've been there before.

There is no need to put headers on a V6 without other work to the engine. Unless you just like throwing money at something for the hell of it.
I dont want to start an argument, but i must totally disagree with you. Long tubes are a good investment no matter what you have on your car.
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Get the Mac long tubes and o/r h-pipe. Best $300 i spent so far on my car. You will definately notice a difference even if you just have bolt-ons. The difference is reason enough to get them. They arent that low. You just need to be careful. I wouldnt be worried about dropping my car another .5-.75 inches.
where'd you find MAC lt's and h-pipe for 300? I'd love to know because I've been wanting a set.
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where'd you find MAC lt's and h-pipe for 300? I'd love to know because I've been wanting a set.
I bought them off a mac representative about a year ago. ill try to find his number although i dont think he works there anymore. i got the chrome ones which are a lot cheaper.
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Pacesetter long tubes or Mac long tubes? Will these become the lowest part of the car when installed?
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I have a set of Mac long tube headers for a V6 94-97 & 01-04 that I am trying to get rid of. I bought to install on my car, but didnt realize the 00 mustang takes a diffrent set so now I am stuck with them. trying to get $175 shipped
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Re: need new headers

On a N/A car, longtubes and shorties are about as useful as a new t/b and spacer.
You really don't need them until you start pushing some serious power out of the engine.

If you do get them and think you've gained 20 hp, you're wrong, it's all in your head...
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I'm adding them building up to more power don't want to pay for everything at once when everything is added then it will be worth it!!!!!! plus that the fun of having a MUSTANG :burnout:
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I gained some torque by adding my long tubes, and the SOTP meter definately felt it.
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ok what's a Sotp meter ????
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SOTP = Seat Of The Pants
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long tubes will produce gains near stock but not much. Shorties are pretty much worthless... sure they help but not nearly enough to warrent them vs other mods if you have other mods to go for.
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I say get the headers as suport mods for future mods. Forget those v8 guys.
Gt and Cobra guys know everything about V6s.
They'll even tell you its Unpossable to get any HP out of a built 3.8 or 4.2.
They'll tell you both single and split port only make 145Hp at the crank.
(we should say 4.6 still only makes 215Hp Like it did when the 3.8 had 145)
There favorate pastime is coming into v6 forums and telling anyone who mentions Horsepower to go buy a v8. (Fast cars are bought not built)
More reasons to throw in twice what it would cost to buy a Gt into my V6.
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I say get the headers as suport mods for future mods. .
After this your post makes no sense in this thread. Nobody told him to buy a V8, no one said a V8 was better, no one said you can't get power out of a 3.8 or 4.2. No one mentioned anything about what your talking about. Did someone piss in your cheerios, or do you overly defend the V6's because you long to have a V8?

Edit: And to the OP, IMO put the money towards other mods first if you don't have them. Your current exhaust should breath "good enough" for a while.
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In about a million prior post they have. would you like reference?
Have you noticed theyre always the first to respond to any mod post in the V6 area.
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stock headers are good till about 300 HP at the fly wheel Save your money
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So your saying THIS Flows as well as THIS?That one pipe on the stock manifold was sticking almost an inch inside that pipe That has got to be restricting airflow.
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This is why I changed from stock to the shorty after i was told i wouldnt gain anything. But my butt dyno felt a difference.
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I recently bought a 2000 V6 and there is a crack in one of the heads. I already plan on getting full exhaust. I was wondering if both the shorty and long tube headers will bolt on with out turning on the "service engine soon" light. Preferably I'd like to get the MAC LT Headers w MAC Off Road H Pipe and flowmaster true duals. Before I spend the money on this exhaust I just want to make sure it will pass inspection. Any advice is appreciated.

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You shouldnt get a light as long as you have at cat on it
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I don't believe in sotp. Before you put them on travel a know distance such as 1/8 mile or 1/4 mile at full throttle and time yourself and remember your top speed when you cross the finish line. Do it about three times get headers or whatever your getting do the same thing and tell us the differences and be honest.
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When you go by sotp you've spent money and got all excited over your new upgrade and to keep yourself from dissapoint you go into your car thinking you have already gained horsepower. Oh and by the way the reason we tell you to buy a v8 is because what else comes with it and the greater potential. When you buy a gt you have already gained hp and you have a car that is setup for a v8 computer tranny rear end suspension. Also if you put 5,000 in a v6 mustang and 5,000 in a v8 mustang the v8 will always win. ALL OF THIS WAS FACT NOT OPINION.
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95% of all mustang GT owners do not mod just the guys on here so 5K you should beat 95% of the GT's how Many GT have you Passed that sound like your grandma car those you should beat
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I don't know, most of the 99-04 GT's by me are modded to some degree. Those are the ones you really have to worry about. You have to put a lot into a v6 (especially an auto) to even compete with a 5spd 99-04 GT.

I'm not sure about 95%...a 2v GT is such a popular car because for the price, you get a decent starting platform and the modding options are insane.
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