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Old 01-16-2005, 04:18 PM   #1
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mustangworld home-made CAI?

ok I was wondering if this really works. if its just as good as getting a MAC or Densecharger? Or if its best to just save and get one of those kits.

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looks kinda ghetto
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my car is all about the ghetto
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Just get an ebay CAI. best bang for your intake buck.
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ya. maybe ill just wait and do that.
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that homemade cai is the poormans intake
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dont cut corners and go all getto do it right or dont do it at all.
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aslong as it gets the filter down away from the motor who cares? the tubing doesnt have that much effect on it,its just where the filter is...fenderwell is better then engine bay, etc
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A regular CAI will also get rid of the 'ribbed' portion of the intake tubing past the MAF. The factory air box still pulls air from the exact same location of the CAI. The point of the CAI is to smooth the passage of air into the motor. I'm not saying there's NO benifit to having the filter outside the engine compartment, but it's definately not the only reason to get one.

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aslong as it gets the filter down away from the motor who cares? the tubing doesnt have that much effect on it,its just where the filter is...fenderwell is better then engine bay, etc
I agree. Works just as good I guarantee it.
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If you try to cut corners you will end up hating yourself for it in the long run. It is like the old saying that you get what you pay for. That doesn't mean to go out and buy the most expensive things that you can find but shop smart and don't impulse buy. Do research and check into things it will save you a headache later.
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I agree to a certain point, but this would be one of those instances were its not cutting corners and would be smarter...you dont need a chrome peice of aluminum to have cold air intake, yea looks a lil better then black plastic hose but they both serve the same purpose and both get the job down just as equal...and id put money on it...if u have a cai but the filter is still next to the motor your still sucking in hotair even with your expensive chrome plated aluminum tube. if its not in the fender well or lower like in the airdam like the march ramair system..its not really helping you any. all in all....so what if you have a "real" cai if its next to the motor its still useless.
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If you try to cut corners you will end up hating yourself for it in the long run. It is like the old saying that you get what you pay for. That doesn't mean to go out and buy the most expensive things that you can find but shop smart and don't impulse buy. Do research and check into things it will save you a headache later.
I agree. When you can get a CAI off of e-bay shipped to your door for 65 bucks or less, that you can put on by yourself, that requires no fabrication, and that many other people use with no problems, why screw around with trying to make one? Hardly seems worth all the extra effort to me. I mean, what if you didn't do it right and your filter falls off/out on a road trip?

There are many other things you can do that don't cost much, like the gas pedal mod. That one is worth the time.

But you should do what you want to do, after all, it's your ride.

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I agree to a certain point, but this would be one of those instances were its not cutting corners and would be smarter...you dont need a chrome peice of aluminum to have cold air intake, yea looks a lil better then black plastic hose but they both serve the same purpose and both get the job down just as equal...and id put money on it...if u have a cai but the filter is still next to the motor your still sucking in hotair even with your expensive chrome plated aluminum tube. if its not in the fender well or lower like in the airdam like the march ramair system..its not really helping you any. all in all....so what if you have a "real" cai if its next to the motor its still useless.
I disagree the black hose is the most constricting part of the intake and when you buy the CAI that is the main part you want to replace to get better air flow
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3" is 3" (3" being example) doesnt matter if its aluminum or plastic if its smooth on the inside it dont matter and they will flow the same, Ive never seen or heard of aluminum being able to flow better then plastic thru the same diameter, then we would have aluminum tubes for all of our plumbing and not PVC since its basically plastic. the most important part of any cai is where the filter is sucking air in.
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Turbulence. the air flowing through the ribbed black plastic tube is more turbulent than the smooth inner surface of the aluminum tubing.

I've done the K&N filter only, removed the silencer, the march ram air, and the CAI. The CAI gives the best results.
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Turbulence. the air flowing through the ribbed black plastic tube is more turbulent than the smooth inner surface of the aluminum tubing.

I've done the K&N filter only, removed the silencer, the march ram air, and the CAI. The CAI gives the best results.
That is what I was trying to say it just didn't come out right I guess
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Too bad someone doesn't just take a velometer and measure the drop in velocity across the black platic tube vs. the aluminum one. That'd clear it right up. Bummer I don't have access to one any more.
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I will see if I can get my hands on one and I will do it
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I said if both peices are smooth...never anything about the ribbed plastic one lol....i put a smooth one on my 88 cant notice anything cuz i cant drive it yet..no tags or anything but im going to be going to massair whenever i get more money and the exhaust is done, next week or so ill have longtubes and a offroad H..longtubes will be here thursday
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I'm confused as to what it is you're talking about then. If you were to do the MW PVC thing, you'd be doing little to nothing for flow. Did you notice that the air silencer snorkel looking thing goes out to the exact same spot that the PVC thing would? All that would be doing is moving the filter. You'd still have a 90 degree bend, and you'd still have the 'ribbed' plastic tubing after the MAF. Doing the MW thing is pretty much a waste of time. The CAI however (and most are the fenderwell type for v6's, not the underhood type) adds a smooth aluminum tube from the MAF to the throttle body, hence getting rid of the lesser flowing black 'ribbed' tube.

Are we not talking about the same thing?
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I'm confused as to what it is you're talking about then. If you were to do the MW PVC thing, you'd be doing little to nothing for flow. Did you notice that the air silencer snorkel looking thing goes out to the exact same spot that the PVC thing would? All that would be doing is moving the filter. You'd still have a 90 degree bend, and you'd still have the 'ribbed' plastic tubing after the MAF. Doing the MW thing is pretty much a waste of time. The CAI however (and most are the fenderwell type for v6's, not the underhood type) adds a smooth aluminum tube from the MAF to the throttle body, hence getting rid of the lesser flowing black 'ribbed' tube.

Are we not talking about the same thing?
That is the same thing that I thought 2:
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i was just talking in general...if both peices are smooth it doesnt matter lol being aluminum or smooth plastic. i dont have to worry about that anyway yet with the 88...havnt converted to mass air yet..so i have no maf to worry bout
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the point being that the piece after the MAF isn't smooth. A CAI will thake care of that. I'm sore you could fab something to replace the whole intake tract, but after all that, you'd have spent more time, energy, and quite possibly money to engineer something that's already been done.
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well it made sense in my head, i just cant type it evedently...

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Don't get me wrong, I'm not baggin' on you. I just want to be sure we're on the same page and giving tedness(?) the right info.
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