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Old 07-30-2003, 11:30 AM   #1
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dualie for a good price...

i've been lookin at some sites, callin some numbers...

i'm told that MAC doesn't make long tube v6 headers... yet i've seen pics of them on this very website lol... where do i buy them?

if i manage to get the longtubes, would i be best off going with an H pipe or Xpipe? (i want my stang to stay street legal, as it's my only car)

and i'm told by the salespeople that flowmaster is the way to go, but here i've read mostly bad things about them. are the salespeople just tryin to up their commission at my expense? what would be more cost effective than flowmaster?

bottom line, i want the most for my money, and i want maximum potential for when i start adding gears and superchargers and things of that nature...

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http://extremeeffect.com/38Exhaust.html

www.Extremeeffect.com Has headers that I beleive you are talking about.
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alright, some H and X pipes have the "with cats" option, which, i believe is catalytic converters... am i best off to have these or to leave them off?
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Leave them on. Personally, a V6 without the CATS (which are the catalitic converters, correct) sounds like hell. They dont do anything for performance gains if you take them off.
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so what H pipe should i get? i'm ordering the long tube MAC headers... i know i don't want that half *** pacesetter nonsense... so probably a MAC H pipe with CATs then... what about the mufflers and tailpipes? any advise there? i'm a big fan of the cobra's throaty rumble, but i know it'll be impossible to have that on the v6, so what's a good mix of price and quality? give me a brand name

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Old 07-30-2003, 12:38 PM   #6
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Have you read our article on exhaust?

http://www.232stangs.com/v6_stang_specs/articles/exhuast/

I have GT takeoffs, and they suit me fine. I especially like the apperance of the 3" stainless steel tips. Thre are some exhaust samples in the nultimedia section of our site www.232stangs.com/multimedia . EVal has a Top of the line Borla, where I have the bottom of the line True GT Dual Takeoffs. Check those out
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Old 07-30-2003, 12:41 PM   #7
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^haha, i read, but didn't really comprehend... i'll give it another try
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leave the cats on. They are nessacary for emissions and inspection, plus your car will sound bad witout them.

H-pipe and X-pipe are both good. Neither are really nessacary on a v6 but they help the sound. I have an X pipe. It sounds really good.

stay with 2.25" pipe. You dont want any bigger or you will lose alot of torque.

For Mufflers, read the sticky. I have flowmaster 40s. I am very happy with them.

you dont have to buy all the pieces seperatly tho. You can have an exhaust shop fabricate all of it. Thats what i did. x-pipe with flowmaster 40s 2.25 inch and turndown tips. . $350 installed. If they try to charge you much more than that do this :
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El Cheapo... the difference between your exhaust and mine... about 150 dollars out the door
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where did you get yours done??? i thought i was getting a good price. . . but you have gt take off right? did you do it yourself?
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I got the GT Mufflers and pipes for 90 bucks, and installed at a local muffler shop for 100.
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hack caugh!



oh well i got my x-pipe and my flows. Im really happy with the sound so thats what counts.

heheh

minike wanted liek $600 to do it!
and this other shop i called said you couldnt put dual exhaust on a v6 mustang!!!!



why are there so many idiots, and we cant shoot them?
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Old 07-30-2003, 02:33 PM   #13
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My muffler guy said I was an idiot for putting a GT dual exhaust on my car. I looked at him and said, "If you're not going to do it, or give me a hard time about it, let me know."

He shut up really quick and did it.
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then you strangeled him with your t-shirt!!!!!!

but thats another story for another day...
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then you strangeled him with your t-shirt!!!!!!

but thats another story for another day...

Shhhhh... my parents thought that smell was from my new exhaust.... shhhhhhhhh.
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who told you MAC doesnt make Long tube headers for the six.
Iam under the impression that they are the only one who does....

I cant remember if i've even seen another brand of long tubes for the 6.

Extreme effects sells the Long tube headers, I think possibly V6 mustang stuff also does.

Check out the sites on the banner rotators. That exhaust article isnt near completed... so it may be a while for anyone to understand... haha.. .
to much crap to do.
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alright, i've decided on MAC long tube headers. bassani x pipe with cats... flowmaster 40's 3 chamber catback... 2.5" on all

the only problem is, the parts add up to about a grand new... that's a lot, and i still have to do CAI and UDP (which i'll probably do first) ...in and case, i think i'd rather have new and be sure i'm not getting someone's secondhand crap...

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why do you want a dualy truck?

i didn't read all of it, but if you aren't supercharging soon you're going to regret it, i gaurantee it!
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i'll be supercharging within the year, hopefully

but as things seldom go my way, it's anyone's guess
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I believe that 2.5" pipes will loose too much back pressure and will hurt you more than it will help you. Just warning ya.
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even if i'll end up supercharging?

haha this is a lot to keep track of
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You'll be up #### creek until you get that S/C. and if's a year or more down the road, I would jsut upgrade to better (larger) pipes then. Personally, I would want to keep my car running to the best of it's abilities at any given moment. If an S/C were in my future, I would stick with smaller pipes until I got the S/C, then get larger pipes after the install of the S/C. Again, this is personal opinion, and I will not be offended at all if you choose otherwise. It's your car man, do what you feel you should.
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well, i certainly want to run to the best of current abilities... so will i need to get 2 1/4 inch headers, hpipe and mufflers and catbacks?

haha, this would be easier on aim... what are you, a workaholic?
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not completly... I'm only a work-a-holic between the hours of 8 and 5 weekdays. Then I get to work on other various projects when I go home
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you didn't answer my question slick... will i need 2.25 pipe all the way through the exhaust system? cuz i haven't seen that on any of these websites. just 2.5 and 3 inch
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I wish I had slicks.. that would probably help my 60' times

Cobras have 2.5 inch pipes all the way back, GT's and 6's have 2.25. I'm sure they make 2.25. and I'm sure they can get it if you specify what you need before you buy anything.

I guess I just dont know why you want to go ape$h!t of the exhaust right now. If you were installing the S/C within a week, then yeah, it would make sence. but it's just not clicking with my brain.

Would you need 2.25 through out the whole system? To my understanding, you just need 1 section to be 2.25 to create the backpressure. I would think only your exit pipes would have to be 2.25 to create the backpressure on the exhaust.
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haha, that's why i'm asking... i didn't want to have to put in everything 2.25 only to have to rip it all out in a year... so just 2.25 after the hpipe... will i need an adapter or something to accomodate the smaller size?
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After the H pipe? Do it after the mufflers. Actually, now that I think about it... if you're not getting all your pipes mendrel bent, it wouldnt matter anyway. Get 2.5
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most places sell 2.5 (unless other specified).

Try to stay all 2.25

Being a 6 by upgrading to dual exhaust yoju loose backpressure anyway. Even if you use 2.25 piping.

and no dont mix pipes. You can mix pipes... it wont be a direct fit, the muffler shop may charge extra for the pipe that they would weld on to make the two pipes fit together.
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To make it easy on you.

3inch = Dont get it, if you get it ill slap you.

2.5 inch = dont get it if you dont have to. Only use 2.5 if you plan on supercharging it

2.25 inch = get it, v6's and GT's use that. Its fine. Get a 2.5 exhaust system all the way through.
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To make it easy on you.

3inch = Dont get it, if you get it ill slap you.

2.5 inch = dont get it if you dont have to. Only use 2.5 if you plan on supercharging it

2.25 inch = get it, v6's and GT's use that. Its fine. Get a 2.5 exhaust system all the way through
^alright, so again, if i get 2.5 back to the mufflers, then go to 2.5, do i neeed an adapter? also again, i plan on supercharging within the year, but i'm saving that til last
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To make it easy on you.

3inch = Dont get it, if you get it ill slap you.

2.5 inch = dont get it if you dont have to. Only use 2.5 if you plan on supercharging it

2.25 inch = get it, v6's and GT's use that. Its fine. Get a 2.5 exhaust system all the way through
^alright, so again, if i get 2.5 back to the mufflers, then go to 2.5, do i neeed an adapter? also again, i plan on supercharging within the year, but i'm saving that til last

Just a questionm, why do u want 2.5 so bad?

Even with a supercharger 2.25 will be fine.
There are 600 hp gt's supercharged with 2.25.

Did u already buy mufflers that are 2.5?

Quoting you " if i get 2.5 back to the mufflers, then go to 2.5, do i neeed an adapter? "


Yes, you will need a H pipe, or need your Y pipe cut. to get it to fit. And they will use adapters to connect the two sizes. (if thats what you were asking)
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lol, i'm not explaining myself very well... this is why computer geeks shouldn't play with cars...

what i'm saying is... i've only seen headers and hpipes that come in 2.5... rellik says that only the tailpipes need to be 2 1/4 to create the necessary backpressure... so what i need to know, do i need an adapter to go from 2.5 at the mufflers, to the 2 1/4 tailpipes? cuz i'd planned on installing this myself... with the help of a friend in town here
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this is why computer geeks shouldn't play with cars...
I'm 22 years old.. and I've been a computer geek since 1984 (yes, I was 3 when I started working on computers). Geeks and cars mix after a peroid of time. You're still a little new to the whole process. Give it time. It will start all making sence later on.
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