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Old 05-20-2009, 06:00 AM   #1
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I just bought a v6 Mustang a couple weeks ago, and currently in Iraq. Never was into cars, until I started looking at Mustangs. I want to make it a sleeper Mustang. Any suggestions? I was also wondering if there was a mustang car garage in PA somewhere? I live in in the Northeastern of PA. I want to upgrade the car as I go on, but when I come back, I really want to put maybe $3,000 or $4,000 into it. Any help would be great
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power adder ~ supercharger, turbo, build the engine, nitrous
(either way you go, you should follow it up with a good tune/dyno tune)

Quickest way to noticeable power that will boost the performance of your stang.
Most people don't do it right away because of costs. If you have 3000-5000 to spend, I suggest doing it.

As far as shops, I can't help you, I'm in the northwoods
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If you want the ultimate sleeper, do one of the above power adders, and keep the majority of the exterior stock. There's a guy on TMA Turbo that has a completely stock lookin 04 vert pushing 440rwhp at 12 psi with a GT35 turbo with ported heads and upper/lower intake.
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dude, whatever power adder you decide to do, which are all good choices, pretty much pick your poison, its imperitive that you go forged internals (crank, conn. rods, pistons). Reson being, the 3.8s achilies heel is its internals. Good up to about 350hp at the motor. Build the bottom end, then you can throw all kinds of power to it.

Btw, you can find forged internals through O'Reillys and Advanced Auto Parts. I've already priced them....they're about $200 ea. ($200 for crank, $200 for conn. rods, and $200 for pistons). But, you don't have to believe me. Just do your research. Try Supersixmotorsports.com They know Ford V6s very well.
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Oh yeah, forgot to mention, that your block, heads, intake, trans (assuming its automatic) driveline (rear end and driveshaft) are all good up to about 500hp stock.
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dude, whatever power adder you decide to do, which are all good choices, pretty much pick your poison, its imperitive that you go forged internals (crank, conn. rods, pistons). Reson being, the 3.8s achilies heel is its internals. Good up to about 350hp at the motor. Build the bottom end, then you can throw all kinds of power to it.
Really !!!! guess no one told Justin /VMP that he getting crazy RWHP from a stock bottom end. Got a buddy whos been running turbo on a stock botton end for 3 years he's 423 RWHP and it's a DD
proportionatly the 3.8 is longer than a 5.0 block because it's an on-center design to accomodate the longer crank with the splayed rod pins. the old buick stage 1 is an offcenter design in even fire form. in odd fire it has shared rod pins like a V8 because it was designed from the 215 aluminum block V8. as an odd fire the block and bore spacing was fine when #3 and #6 were deleted from the V8. however when buick developed the 30 degree splayed rod pins to make it an even fireing crank thay didn't lenghten the block the accomodate the longer crank ( longer in the rod pins) the just made offset con rods to keep the rod centered in the bore. the buick stage 1 is much shorter than the ford 3.8 which is a longer block to elimate the use of offset rods with the splayed rod pins. the 901 buick block is only good to about 600rwhp and that is pushing it. ford just did away with every buick deficiency that they saw with the buick block and came up with a block in between the stage1 buick block and stage 2 block in strength and it's lighter than the buick production stage 1 block even though it's longer. the 3.8 isn't much shorter than the 5.0 and if a V8 was based on the 3.8 block it would be even longer if they just added 2 cylinders. but adding 2 cylinders would eliminate the need for splayed rod pin and go back to a common pin which would require a shorter block. a V8 based on the 3.8 would have been far superior to the 5.0 block but the 5.0 was good enough for ford to not even worry about designing a V8 from the essex 3.8. the SVO V6 block is about the same length as a 5.0 block so that shows how much waste there is in an even fire block for length. crank strength was always a worry with en even fire90 degree block and that is why buick and ford used shuch large journal/pin diameters which are larger than the 5.0 and equal to the windsor.


strip a 5.0 block and a 3.8 block and take awhile to examine them and you will see why the 3.8 is stronger. it is beefier in critical areas
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Re: Wanting to Upgrade Mustang

the great thing about mustangs is the aftermarket is so big you can do just about what ever you want to make your car like you want it
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Dude, I'm not saying I know everything....cuz I don't. Just saying, ive done some pretty extensive research and talked with a LOT of tuners and businesses catering to V6s they've all said across the board that pushing power past 350 on stock guts is a gamble. Some may get by with it, some may not.

That was a pretty lengthy explaination btw. Gathered a bit of angst in it. *grins* you're not upset are you?
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Re: Wanting to Upgrade Mustang

daamn looks like im not touching my v-6 after all
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yea i wouldnt push but 11psi from a supercharger on a stock v6 engine and it would need to be tuned good, thats not quite 300rwhp

you are correct you have to build the bottom end to hold more hp/tq but some have pushed 700+rwhp so its possible, just have to build the engine
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Thank you spectorV, thank you. I'm glad to see and hear that I'm not the one who has a general idea what we're talkin about and not talkin out our ***.
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