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Old 02-19-2005, 01:42 PM   #1
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Brakes and Suspension Upgrade

Been gone for a while but im back...My suspension is really ****ty right now. Any little bump you can feel it pretty good. Also after putting those 17's on my car sits a little to high for my liking. Anyone know a good kit with shocks struts and springs that will drop me about an inch or and inch and a half...

I also want a brake upgrade...New rotors and pads but i dont know sizes on roters and if there is a kit decently priced i wouldnt mind upgrading the whole brake system calipers, pads, rotors. If you dont know i have a 95 V6 with 17's
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I think im going with the Ford Racing Bullit Suspension kit...so i just need help with the brakes
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I would recommend the Cobra brake kit. I sell them at my site if you wanna look.
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i dont have that much to spend on a brake system...i have about 400 to spend on brakes
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go with a cobra front brake upgrade from www.speedconcepts.net, i highly recomment teh bullit front brake kit, same as the cobra just looks nice with the red caliper and white pony.

install is VERY easy just bolts right up, get slotted rotors ONLY no drilled or go plain faced rotor, and MAKE SURE THEY ARE protected with a zinc or nickel coating etc or they WILL rust and look horrid in like two weeks...

thats all you nee for brakes minus perhaps new pads adn rotors out back along with painting the rear calipers red to match the front.

for suspension go with ford C springs, cut a coil off the back, a half coil on the front or remove the top front isolator (will not cause noise with no top front isolator!)

then get mach 1 shocks/struts and mm 4 point cc plates (or the pro 3i ones ive just seen them not to as good and still not align right, the mm 4 point can be fliped for alot more adjustmetn, well worth it)

and then finish it up with a junk yard 99+ gt rear sway bar and front sway bar endlinks and maybe rack bushings.
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get the eibach prokit and some tokicos. thwn just get a bullit brake kit.
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go H&Rs they are the best spring out there... they offer far better rates than eibach and give a great drop, if you want more than 1.3 inches that is, else stay with C springs, and if you go more than 1.5 inches you will need the CC plates for SURE along with soem tokico blue's for the lower drop
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I would get get C springs Cut the rear dead coil leave the isolators in. They are not for noise as much as they are fo prevent metal to metal contact causes scouring, fatigue and wearing or cracking of the Upper A arm. I would get either Bullitt or Mach 1 Tokicos

As for the brakes ( not to cause loss of sales to Rob) I would get some 99+ PBR dual piston calipers and get some Power Slot front rotors. The main difference in Cobra brakes is the Rotors and not the calipers. Besides your V6 does not require Cobra brakes for stopping. You will be actually reducing weight because the PBR's are aluminum and your stock calipers are steel.

The biggest thing is everyone wants to be faster but you put on bigger rotors and bigger Wheels and tires and all you have done is added 40 pounds to each wheel assembly and you add the gyroscopic weight and the power required to turn the heavier wheel assemblies and you have officially slowed down your car!!!
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you wont be happy with the drop if you dont cut a little off the front or leave the isolator out.... 1.1 inches front and 1.1 - 1.25 rer is what you will end up with.
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you wont be happy with the drop if you dont cut a little off the front or leave the isolator out.... 1.1 inches front and 1.1 - 1.25 rer is what you will end up with.

Why is that I am happy and my car drop 1.5 alll aroundand I left the Isolator in.

For some reason the C springs do not drop the 99+ like they do the 94-98. I have seen this phenomenon on several cars
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Why is that I am happy and my car drop 1.5 alll aroundand I left the Isolator in.

For some reason the C springs do not drop the 99+ like they do the 94-98. I have seen this phenomenon on several cars
Same goes for Eibach... My car drops alot lower than a 99+ with the same springs
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Would the Bullit Suspension Kit not be a good idea...Tokico shocks, struts, springs (i think they are C springs) and sway bars for less than $400?
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And where is the best place to find 99+ PBR dual piston calipers and Power Slot front rotors....Ebay? What about the rear?
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The power slots can be found on Ebay cheap. The PBR calipers can be found at vendors on our forum like http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/get_SuspenBrakes.html or on ebay

I would not waste you time changing the back brakes. Even the Cobra uses the same dinky rear caliper they only stick a bigger rotor on them
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ok but would that suspension kit be good?
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I think some Eibach or Steeda Springs would be good, and get some tokicos to go with them. Here's my site if you wanna look around. www.rdmotorsport.com
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am i going to need anything else if i get 1.5" drop springs?

eibachi pro-kit springs is what im referring to

what are some good brake pads also?
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am i going to need anything else if i get 1.5" drop springs?
c/c plates
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You'll need new endlinks too
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Why is that I am happy and my car drop 1.5 alll aroundand I left the Isolator in.

For some reason the C springs do not drop the 99+ like they do the 94-98. I have seen this phenomenon on several cars
ive installed 3 sets on pre 99s... they got 1.2-1.3 inches just like the 99+ i have heard they drop more... who knows. I know my car sat 28.25 inches stock at all 4 corners~
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If you want the best go with h&r springs/ bilstien struts and shocks/ MM 4 point cc plates / etc etc...

for a budget get H&R springs with blue tokicos for a lower drop, or c springs for a 1.1-1.3 drop DONT expect 1.5 inches... you may get it but i doubt it.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=7957852049

anyone know if these will be any good?

also what are some good pads?

i was just going to change the rotors and put on new pads not calipers...
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they look pretty good.
good pads= hawk
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Or you could be just like me & buy sportlines & scrape your pro-chamber everywhere you go. I need belsteins & castercambers soooo bad. When you lower a car as much as I did & don't buy caster cambers your front struts go out real quick.
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My friend went with the bullitt suspension, he's Mustang22 here on the site, pm him and you can find out about that suspension.
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Ceramic or Composite brake pads? Does one cause more dust than the other and is there any difference in effectiveness in the two? Also is it worth getting stainless steel brake lines, will it make a difference?
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you can get dual piston pbrs for CHEAP ive seem them go for 120 bucks with rotors so keep a look out, I would however go with a set of cobra front brakes, the bullit brakes are cobra spec... put powdercoated red with a white horse, very nice look. I would spend the money on those.

If you are upset at your ride quality unless your shocks/struts are worn to death it will probably get worse with a corner carver suspension package.
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get oem ford pads no need for any other unless you plan to professinally autox or something.
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Ok so i found some dirt cheap PBR Dual Piston Calipers off a 2003, Hawk pro stop slotted rotors, looking for some pads, and im going to paint the calipers black...Hows that setup sound?
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Im getting the brakes done before i start on the suspension...
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sounds like you need to get cobra brakes lol but that does sound good if its cheap, if those rotors are used check for rust cuz if they are not protected you should have some.

if they are not used and are new then make sure they are protected or they will rust.

17 inch + rims make the stock brakes look itty bitty to me.

just a tip, sand down the calipers, they are aluminum so should be very easy to smooth out, then paint em it will look 10x better, i would go with something other than black... so they at least show up a little bit.
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im ordering the rotors and the calipers have about 5 miles on them...I dont want to spend that much on a cobra kit right now...
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Im bidding on the PBR Calipers but i was looking for a SS Brake line and they have them for different years...does it matter that the calipers are off a 2003 and i order a brake line for a 95?
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and are the brake pads a different size with these new PBR calipers?
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