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Old 03-06-2005, 07:55 PM   #1
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$7500....what to do...

ok here's the deal. $7500 (give or take $500 more) to use on the engine.

do i:
- rebuild the current one
- find a shop (fl, ga, or alabama) to swap in something else



...cuz i cant sell the car. still payin on it
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hey whacha .... me for? its a legitmatable question
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with 7500, i'd go for a v8 if you can afford the insurance and gas mileage. i posted a for racing 5.0 on that other thread in the lounge... If you've got some connections you could get the install and engine for under 7500 i would think. It says with intake, tb, and headers they got 345 hp out of it and if you stick a blower on there eventually...you would be haulin

but i don't really know much about this stuff yet , like if it would work with the tranny etc... i need to get edumacated
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hey whacha .... me for? its a legitmatable question
Cause it was in the Lounge....

7500 dollars?

rpm-mustangs.com can sell you a complete shortblock 4.2l stroker and hooke you up with the heads, cam and upper and lower you will need. Email them and ask them. That way you just have to get a chip to tune for it and you dont have to mess with suspension and all that crap and a new computer. Etc etc etc.

You will come out with money left over and you can spend it how you like. The 4.2l stroker will have Forged H-Beam Rods and Forged Pistons.

If it was me I would stick with the v6.

Get the new motor in and enjoy raping people in your 6 cylinder. Thats what I plan on doing
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personally I wouldn't sink $7500 into a V6. Let me tell you from experience. You will never be happy with the amount of power.

I would definatly look into using it to pay off the rest of the car since you said you're still paying on it. Why not get out of debt, and save up some and get a new car when you can? Or if you don't want to do that, why not just put it in a savings account? Some of them are earning 1-2.5% intrest. That is a nice over $150 increase each year.

If you really wanna just mod the v6. just buy a stock 3.8 and put the spray on it with a set of gears and exhuast. That is still a nice high 13sec v6 and you don't have to spray all the time to put strain on your engine.
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5.0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you can spend $3000 to 4000 building a killer engine/trans/rearend and get the parts to make your vortech work on the v8 then spend whatevers left on making the v8 work in your car and maybe even have some money left over (but according to the rule of building cars, you will actually be over budget). Who's gonna expect a 99 v6 to have a built and blown 5.0 under the who when your are next to them at a redlight? and do the work yourself, its fun (most of the time) and alot cheaper.
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Who is going to expect a 99 to have a 4.2l blown v6? Its cheaper and requires much much less trouble in swapping it over. 350-400rwhp easy.

Keep it a v6
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v6 can be teh pwnage with a LOT less work

5.0 can be teh pwnage with a LOT of work

the v6 would be blown and it would be about maxed at around 350-400rwhp
the v8 would be taking less stress to be running at about the same hp... :chin: then you blow the v8

its a tough decision, b/c the v8 would really be a ton of work
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i like the idea of the 4.2l blown6. know if rpm does in-house installs of their stroker kits?
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Are you going to keep the car?

If yes, then go for it. Maybe or No save your money.

I would second the 4.2 option if you are keeping it.
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I sell 4.2 Kits too if you are interested.
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i like the idea of the 4.2l blown6. know if rpm does in-house installs of their stroker kits?
If you want to drive to cali to have it done he may can work something out.

sales@rpm-mustangs.com

Email him tell him I sent you over there and tell him what I suggested and he can get you a list going with prices!
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www.rdmotorsport.com, he can sell you a badass 4.2. then get a g-force t-5. and build that rear end.
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Old 03-07-2005, 08:15 AM   #15
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There is a shop here that will build you a stroker V6.
A TRUE stroker, using a stroked 4.2 crank

4.2's are nice but 4.5's and up are nicer

This shop approved a blueprint for a 4.5
and that was with a simple .030" overbore.

If interested, I would hook you up with him and
of course, he would work with me on the cam.
I can also get you the BV heads and stuff, I
have referral program in place with RPM, I can
endorse him because I trained him in porting.

You might even get some change back from your ~8K
and I'm sure I can save you some money, I've been wanting to
do this big stroker for sometime and prove its worthiness.

We would use a 4.2 seasoned (used) crank I have here, it is best
cuz you have to machine it anyway, so might as well use a "seasoned"
crank. Cheaper and slightly stronger, the heat cycling is like stress relief.
I have an SC block here too, those are way strong! The extra 10%+
in extra weight is in all the critical areas.

I'd do this as an R&D, I'm almost all caught up and by the time we start
I will be able to concentrate fully on thsi project. Putting the best cams
and the biggest cubes together with the best porting available is killer!
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www.rdmotorsport.com, he can sell you a badass 4.2. then get a g-force t-5. and build that rear end.

We would of course get the proper parts thru RDM, (right partner? )
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I still dunno man. If I could afford to do suspension and stiffen the frame, I'd drop a V8 in there, you'll get oodles more power out of it.
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yea. but v8 swap = expensive and messy
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yea. but v8 swap = expensive and messy
Not if you know someone with experience in this area. When I swap my engine, my car will be down for about 2 weeks and it'll cost around 10k for the whole swap, engine, suspension, frame, everything. The most expensive single part will be my transmission. But..if you're wanting to stay with the v6 then a stroker would be the way to go, then you can transfer your supercharger right over as well.
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if it were me?

Get a built 4.2 with a forged bottom end from one of the nice mustang sites, such as rpm or rd. P&P heads intakes. Add a cam and some adjustable RRs. Buy a maf, a 310pump and 42lb injectors. Then either talk to pete or andy. Turbo or Powerdyne, your choice. OR, build the tranny and rear end up, then msg Justin at VMP.
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sell it and buy an 03 cobra
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sell it and buy an 03 cobra
Agreed. Or buy a 331 stroker, then supercharge it. Alot of horses.
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RDM is gonna be the place to go, when you guys see how well the new cams are doing

We can do any of the rest of it as well, the website posting is running well behind the
actual capabilities of what we can do and get for you guys. We can have a cam out in
right at a week after it is ordered. Even if it is ordered TODAY. Pretty quick turnaround,
and it is dropshipped direct from the grinder.


The cam is gonna be where it is at, take all teh V6 places that port, and you can pretty
much get any porting within 5 CFM of any one else's, and similar prices too.

So the big thing is how well the components are matched, and your's truly has been
doing these combos for longer than anywhere else, and I grind no-compromise cams.
I ask the buyer what kind of performance he wants and the budget, then spec out
the best combo for the least $$$ to get them there. No one picks their own cam, I do.

I can set up a combo from Air Filter to Tailpipe and everything in between.
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Ya, i know i'm behind the power curve. The military asks alot of me. Hopefully I can get some work done tomorrow on it.
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just drop this setup in like a guy that posts on the DSM site I also post at. Hes going to be running 8's and pushing around 1400 rwhp. Hes useing a v6 body too lol how mean LOL!
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4.5L motor? How do you manage that?

And what do you mean by a "stroked" 4.2 crank? I thought that by dropping a 4.2 crank into the 3.8 that WAS stroking it? Don't wanna sound dumb here, but I'd also really like the info.
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4.5L motor? How do you manage that?

And what do you mean by a "stroked" 4.2 crank? I thought that by dropping a 4.2 crank into the 3.8 that WAS stroking it? Don't wanna sound dumb here, but I'd also really like the info.
You get the 4.5l with a huge overbore. .100 overbore if I am not mistaken along with a 4.2l crank will give you around 4.5l displacement
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You get the 4.5l with a huge overbore. .100 overbore if I am not mistaken along with a 4.2l crank will give you around 4.5l displacement

No, the 4.5 is a .030" overbore, on an offset ground 4.2 crank.
It is the one my shop has said is quite easy. If I build that w/custom
pistons (this is after I get everything else done) I will get the block
sonic'ed and see just how much it can handle in overbore and go bigger
than 30 for sure. The machinist I work with (John Walker) did a 408W stroker in 1987,
2 years b4 a SuperFord Magazine Columnist said it was impossible!

The column was "Factory Hotline" by John Vermeersch
He pretty much knows his stuff but dropped the ball that time!

Walker designs his own strokers, he has done Windsors, Clevelands,
OHC 4 cylinders (dirt track), BBFord, Olds, small block ch*vy and
many others. It's second nature for him. He runs the biggest machine
shop in town, and it is not a "small" town. The area is approaching 100,000
but most of the people are just outside the city. He keeps busy
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wow...
It might have been the first 408 but not sure about that.
Never saw a 408 mentioned until like 1991 or 92...
in the magazines at least. Just in Terre Haute amongst
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