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Old 08-04-2003, 11:37 AM   #1
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Spring install

Ok, I went to get the car saefty inspected today, and just casually asked how much it would be to install springs. Now before you start flaming and shouting that I could do it myself, I just really don't have the time right now. I'm going to summer school, working as a research asst., and working on my senior thesis. And taking care of yard work, sick puppy and everything else. So, there.

Anyways, I was quoted $400!!!!! What do I look stupid? They gave em this rap about Mustangs being very difficult and it was like a 4 hr job and ####.

They also told me that with any drop I would have to have CC Plates. Even for a 1 1/4 in drop. Any validity to this?

I've read here, there, and everywhere that I can go w/ C springs and NOT need CC Plates. I don't want to get the springs on and then find out my alignment is all FUBAR. Do I need them or not?

BTW, I will be ordering my C springs and making time to install them myself now. Thanks to any input on the CC Plate question.
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P.S. due to financial constraints I plan on installing Tokicos next month, but want to go ahead and do the springs now...will it ride alright with my stock shocks/struts until I get the Tokico's in?
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P.S. due to financial constraints I plan on installing Tokicos next month, but want to go ahead and do the springs now...will it ride alright with my stock shocks/struts until I get the Tokico's in?
You'll be ok with stock stuff for a while...
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They are cranking your leg my friend. Mustangs are amoung the easiest to change. dont need a spring compression like on most cars. I think a reasonable charge would be somewhere betwwen 125 and 250 but 400 is like way out of line.

as far as the shocks and struts they will be fine for a while
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kewl tks. Yeah, I knew they were waaay out of line...just thought I'd share what some of the auto shops try to tell people.

And I for ssure won't need CC Plates w/ C-springs? I'm not cutting them or removing isolators....
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hey, youre going to the track this friday right? with austin (v6powerstang)? if you get there early with him.... i can leave early and i can help you install the springs while we're there. ill have all my tools and my jack and stands and stuff, so it should take an hour or two and we can get it lowered before you run. how does that sound?
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wow! that sounds like a plan to me! I let you know if I've gotten them by Friday. I'm still waiting on them to get here. Hey, if I put those on is it gonna throw off my alignment? I'll be alright to get back to C.S. right?
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i'll take the rear springs, ok? i'll let you fugger with aggiesarge's front springs.

yes, you'll be fine driving back to college station, but you'll need an alignment later.

i'll bring my jackstands too brandon anyways, and my tools. we need a place to put all of our crap though when we race! is anyone going to have a van or truck or something they are bringing? seriously, we need to find a place to stash out stuff.

it looks like i won't have class on that friday aggiesarge, how about we meet at/around the track maybe in a parking lot. why don't you email me and we can work a time? atrusmstng@hotmail.com i know i've given it to you more than once on another site. and if you have any worries about us taking your car about, i can vouch for brandon (monkey) and he can vouch for me, does that count? i crack myself up. oh and we both swapped out rear ends recently too.
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we can just throw everything in my car and trunk. that should be enough room. im usually the only one who ever brings tools and stuff, and it all fits in my car.
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Wow good to see members working together helping each other out. I help with tech days in the local Mustang club(UMC) as a volunteer helping people with there cars
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Cool. I'm excited and yeah I have complete confidence in you guys. If they're not in by Friday, then my roommie and I will do the install at our house. If that's the case, Austin you can stop by and hang out help or just drink beers! 8)

I ordered from Gefracing..I don't know how long it usually takes......
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FORD only charged me 120 for my old car to put springs on it, I put my own on my new car only took tad over an hour to do it. the rear only takes 2 bolts and BAM you got them done.
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FORD only charged me 120 for my old car to put springs on it, I put my own on my new car only took tad over an hour to do it. the rear only takes 2 bolts and BAM you got them done.
Cool. I'm not planning on cutting initially. I'm just gonna put them in and let them settle and see how I like it. I'm also not planning on leaving out the front isolators or anything....

How long does it usually take to settle?
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aaron,

do you have new front/rear spring isolators? it is highly recommended to prevent squeeking. when did you order the springs? UPS Ground takes several days from order placement. i'd offer to sell you my springs isolators since i'm converting to an IRS rear but until i know 100% i won't put them up for sale. if i know before friday about the IRS then i could part with the spring isolators. i have all four corners sitting in my closet now.

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Where can you get new spring isolators?
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I'm afraid they won't be here until after Friday....I ordered Mon morning. (Had to wait to get my GI Bill money).

But I remain hopeful...I've gotten stuff before in a few days....
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UPS 2 day air only costs about 50% more than regular ground shipping, may want to contact them if it's not already sent.

wow, this is good timing, i just talked to the IRS guy, and it looks like i won't be needing mine. i had no place to get mine locally, so i had them shipped. they cost me 26 and 28 (rear/front) total. if you want i will now sell them to you. they are top quality, i got the rears from www.maximummotorsports.com and the fronts from ebay.

it takes a day or two to settle so i have heard.
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Yeah, I'll take them. Thanks! So, $54 for the set?
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sure, thanks for asking the bare minimum bud. i'm kidding, of course. your offer of 74$ will be fine.





























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e No, really, is $55 ok? Cash? Also, how will these spring isolators affect the drop? or is the advertised 1 1/4 ft and 3/4 rear already figured w/ spring isolators? Just curious...
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Go ahead an cut the rear spring on 2000 you will get a 1 1/8 to 1 1/4 drop On my 98 I got 1.5 drop
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I may cut them when I do the shocks and struts next month.
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e No, really, is $55 ok? Cash? Also, how will these spring isolators affect the drop? or is the advertised 1 1/4 ft and 3/4 rear already figured w/ spring isolators? Just curious...
yes, they will affect the drop. the stock rubber ones are thin and flimsy and probably already have a hole in them. these are about 1/6" thick where the spring contacts, but it could be as much as 1/5". you can put them in stock and then cut them later, or you can cut them partially and see how much more you need to cut them. i really don't think it matters. just make sure you write down how much you cut off of each one for your own reference's sake. i personally know two guys that are having to reinstall their springs with new isolators because they didn't replace them the first time, so i think you're doing the right thing. they are like little bushings or padding, however you want to look at it.

yeah 85$ is fine, you don't have to keep offering more, it's cool.

EDIT - on reading your last post, i'd suggest installing the springs now, then installing the shocks and struts followed by pulling the springs after a few days of driving with the new shocks/struts and cutting them one or more times to what you want.
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lmao! ro...tks! I'll try not to keep raising the price That's cool....I shoulda known better about the isolators..duh Well, I don't want the 4X4 look anymore, but ride is important...so yeah I'm gonna just put them in with the isolators and not cut them initially. Then next month when I get my Tokicos I can always cut the rears a little. Thanks for all the help! You're racking up a lot of free beers!
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I'm also trying to avoid using CC plates. I'm on a budget and am dying to get T-lok and alum d/s.
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lmao! ro...tks!
Mr. T sez: Quit wit dat jibba jabba!!!

and austin sez: you're a dork and i don't speak in abbreviations.

what drop do you want? like 1.25 front and 1.00 rear? or something more 'pimpin' like 1.50 on all four corners?

EDIT - it only takes me a couple beers without eating food recently to get buzzed and three to get tipsy, so i won't hurt your beer budget too bad. believe you me, i will take up on the beer! miller lights, 40's are good too.

my RA here in the dorm took all my beer cause i'm 20 and said if he caught me again it's HAMMERTIME aka Corps probation, MIP etc.

this is what i get for recruiting for the corps and a&m and wasting my freakin summer.
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ok....dork
...you going active duty after graduation? If so, all you'll talk in will be abbreviations!
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1 1/4 is fine...If the rear sets a little higher, then no biggie. right now my rear seems to sit lower than the front by quite a bit.
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so what is "ro tks"?

yes i plan to go active duty. armor is my preference, go figure, big cars that kill people.

maybe when i'm out i'll mod myself an abrahms

hmmmm your rear should be sky high on a v6... do you have dead bodies or heavy things in the trunk? we'll take a look friday to make sure your shocks and rear suspension are okey dokey.
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It could just be the way I always park on the side of my house...

Go Armor! I was in 1st AD for 2 yrs and loved it. I've thought about going back in sometimes and would want to go Armor. Just remember to listen to your NCOs

ro= right on
tks=thanks

When I was in San Antone...we used to have chat amongst all of the operators...kinda like a really expensive encrypted instant messenger...and everybody always talked in abbreviations.

ofl=out for lunch
ofs=out for smoke
brb=be right back
as1=wait a minute...busy
as5=wait for a while...gonna be a while
and a bunch more I can't think of off the top of my head
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i read the sentences and ignored the nerdy part.

i am very humble, i will depend on my NCO's a ton. that's how i learned about cars. believe it or not i was a little cocky about cars because i was stupid and didn't know what i was doing. i then realized i was a dumb fvck and learned some humility. kinda sad that learning about cars will play a key role in my decisions as a butter bar. i guess 4 years of PT and ROTC didn't hurt either of course.

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