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Old 03-21-2005, 08:31 AM   #1
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Finally after to many years not helping us out Ford Motorsports has come out with Hi Peformance plug wires for 94-04 3.8's. They are 9mm and come in red or blue. They are about 30% to 60% less than any other aftermarket plugs out there. I found them for under $45.00 for either 94-98 and 99-04 at

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Are they any good?
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I will let you know. But actually why wouldn't they be. They have always had a Universal kit for V6 and V8's and they are the same wires. The fact is stock Ford wires are good wires. Most people change really because of the color not because they are a performance upgrade.
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I realize that it's not a performance part...

I was only asking if they are any good because, as you probably know, some wiresets tend to go kaput after only a few months (namely Bosch has had that trend lately). Was curious on the quality of these since they are a fairly new product.
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I realize that it's not a performance part...

I was only asking if they are any good because, as you probably know, some wiresets tend to go kaput after only a few months (namely Bosch has had that trend lately). Was curious on the quality of these since they are a fairly new product.
Not really new The same wires were in a unversal set with eight wires you just had to pick the right length one. These kits have the wires prenumbered other than that they are the same wires just taylored to V6's

I know first hand about the plug wires from bosch. I bought some for my wifes 626 and they sucked. I took them back and bought the more expensive NGK wires and they are going strong
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I realize that it's not a performance part...

I was only asking if they are any good because, as you probably know, some wiresets tend to go kaput after only a few months (namely Bosch has had that trend lately). Was curious on the quality of these since they are a fairly new product.
actually they can be classified as a performance part if they lower the resistance, since the heat in the engine causes electical circuits to build resistance a heavier guage wire might minimize that.
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actually they can be classified as a performance part if they lower the resistance, since the heat in the engine causes electical circuits to build resistance a heavier guage wire might minimize that.


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It means HOG WASH. BULLCRAP, THE ***** IS GETTING DEEP!!!


HAHAHHAHAHA The fact is many people with modded V6's are using stock wires HAHAHAHHAHA


SO I SAY BALDER DASH !!!
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im not saying it adds power. all im saying is that it decreases resistance in high heat areas like an engine. heat builds resistance in wires that is a fact, a lower gauge wire (thicker) has less resistance than a higher gauge wire (thinner) that is also a fact.


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In theory you are correct but until you convince me that the stock wires are not optimized for least resistance and larger is better then


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In theory you are correct
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but until you convince me that the stock wires are not optimized for least resistance and larger is better then


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i never said that the stock ones were a restriction, i said these may lower resitance thus they are a performance mod because they actually do something good. i didnt say the had power gains though.
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they only reason to get hi performance plug wires is if you run a professional top of the line full out dragster...

if you are just in need of a tune up and they look better might as well buy the nice looking red ones other wise.
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It's balder dash.

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You are correct it is Balder Dash.
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they'd probably help if you were running much hotter than stock ignition system like MSD... its be about as effective as droping to a colder range of plug

those are very good plugs wires, they're been around FOREVER! they're supper snazzy too, they're 9mm so they're fatter than the average bear.
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I don't see why something offering less restriction can't be considered an improvement...

porting heads merely reduces restriction and allows more air to flow, so if you have wires that offer less resistance they allow more current to flow.

IE its an improvement...a noticeable one maybe not, but still an improvement.
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I don't see why something offering less restriction can't be considered an improvement...

porting heads merely reduces restriction and allows more air to flow, so if you have wires that offer less resistance they allow more current to flow.

IE its an improvement...a noticeable one maybe not, but still an improvement.
Well it would be an improvement if you had crappy wires. But the stock wires are not restrictive. Just like getting a larger T/B on a stock motor. There is no gain going bigger. In going from stock wires to MSD wires I saw no gains on the dyno. I am going to these new FMS wires because they are as cheap as stock wires and I have a bad MSD wire. I was not particularly impressed with how quickly my MSD wires have deteriorated considering they are less than 2 years old.
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Let's see if I can explain it so that you understand why lower resistance wires aren;t necessarily an improvement.

Total current flow thru an electrical circuit is determined by the voltage applied and the resistance of the circuit. It doesn't matter if it's the ignition of your Stang or the lightbulb in the garage. Current is what does the work in an electrical system.

In an ignition circuit the BIGGEST source of resistance is the gap at the plug. Which is essentially infinity, but in reality it's obviously less than infinity or you'd get no spark. The voltage applied to the gap ionizes the air around the gap and that lowers the resistance so that a spark can jump. Compared to that resistance the OEM or any aftermarket plug wire's resistance is a fraction of total resistance. Therefore the cureent "consumed" by the wires is a fraction of the total current. The difference isn't enough to really matter. Now back with the old cars that used carbon supression wires and weak ignitions it made a big difference, but not today's DIS systems.

Where aftermarket wires shine in our systems is in insulation from heat and spark leakage and colors. That's it.

All the above does assume you have good plug wires in the comparison.

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actually, it's "balderdash" it's all one word

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the ones in that pic will not work for a coil pack car. they have the worng ends on them.
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the ones in that pic will not work for a coil pack car. they have the worng ends on them.
Dude it is a generic picture I checked the parts number with Ford and they are brand new for 94-98 and 99-04 cars. They can be found in the new 2005 Ford Motorsports Catalog. The Ebay store I posted has them cheaper than the catalog
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Dude it is a generic picture I checked the parts number with Ford and they are brand new for 94-98 and 99-04 cars. They can be found in the new 2005 Ford Motorsports Catalog. The Ebay store I posted has them cheaper than the catalog

oh ok. just wanted to make sure.my wires are looking real bad and are like 3 yrs old. so i am gonna have to look in to those motorsport ones.
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oh ok. just wanted to make sure.my wires are looking real bad and are like 3 yrs old. so i am gonna have to look in to those motorsport ones.
What's up Matt. I talked to you at the track about my 4.2L stroker I am building up. Good to see you on the site.
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Ford Motorsports part numbers

...........94-98.......
Blue M-12259-C638
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Blue M-12259-C380
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yea i remember talking to you about the 4.2 info. nice meeting you.

thanks for the part #s danger. i may order some in teh morning.
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yea i remember talking to you about the 4.2 info. nice meeting you.

thanks for the part #s danger. i may order some in teh morning.
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I just recently changed my wires over to MSD from stock because almost all of my stock wires on the driver side were arcing! I just wish corey would have told me about these cheaper wires sooner!
Oh well, I think there was some added power with the wires too, but thats only because my stock wires were not working properly.
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I just recently changed my wires over to MSD from stock because almost all of my stock wires on the driver side were arcing! I just wish corey would have told me about these cheaper wires sooner!
Oh well, I think there was some added power with the wires too, but thats only because my stock wires were not working properly.
Dude I just found out about these wires last week and did some research on them before I posted them.

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well i got a set of these wires. and they do not fit the 94-98 cars. the lengths are waaayy off. i think they made them to fit the 99-up cars.
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They make a set for 99+ and a set for 94-98 My set work like a charm. They were a perfect fit for me and I have a 98
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They make a set for 99+ and a set for 94-98 My set work like a charm. They were a perfect fit for me and I have a 98
got a part #??? i bet the my distributer sent the 99-up ones. and i didn't even look at the part # i got.
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