Okay fellas.. this summer im gettin my gears, tlok, chip, etc.
Next summer I'm goin for a big increase in hp. I'm thinking either a turbo or a supercharger. My first question is.. "Is 4.10s overkill on a superchargeed/turboed car? or should i go with 3.73s?" I don't want it to be too out of control and I still want it to be driver friendly. BTW, its an auto.
Okay what I was thinking is something that isn't a lot of power but a decent boost. I think 5psi might be too little and 9psi is more ideal. I'm not sure yet. I can get 3k-5k easily by working over the summer. I dont really race so I don't want this beast of a car that I can't drive around my neighborhood. However, horsepower numbers don't mean much to me. Instead, I like to look at quarter mile times. I want something 13-14.5 seconds.
Soooo.. I did some research and I was looking at that guy's turbo kit that is mentioned in a few other topics as well as info on the vortech supercharger. How much would these cost? Right now I got a stock engine and I'm not sure if I need to do anything about that to prepare for these?
Extra parts that are needed and price estimates besides piping.
Brand New Garrett T3/T4 57 trim turbo off of Garrett Distributor (Supports 450 hp)= $520
Brand New Tial 38 MM wastegate = $220
Brand New Bosch BOV = $30
Brand New silicone hoses, T bolt clamps, vacuum hoses off HighTempSilicone.com= $150
Brand New oil feed and oil drain lines from Summitt = $80
Brand New K&N air filter, PCV catch can, Coating spray can, radiator catch can, reflective heat shields from Summit = $130
Total = $1130
Total with my complete Piping base turbo cost= $2930
So $2930 will get you a running setup with pipes already design to accept an intercooler that will bolt right in when you decide to upgrade in the future.
Optional Items
Brand New Spearco intercooler 18x8x3 inch core off Spearco Distributor= $360
Brand New Autometer boost gauge = $40
HKS BOV - $190
Optional Garrett T3/T04B 60-1, 62-1 turbo (Supports 600hp)(Recommend for forge bottom end built motors) $620
Total with boost gauge and intercooler and hks bov= $3490
thats a hell of a lot of money. i dont want that big turbo tho.. at least.. i dont think i do? im not sure how all this works and i dont necessarily know what i want. i think i want 9psi and no lag.. so the smaller turbo would work? that would need intercooled too, right? would i need any engine work to prep the engine for all this?
yeah thats what i meant.. i didnt click back to see the price though.
is the stock motor fine with this setup or is there any modifications i have to do to prep it? is everything in the kit needed for a complete setup? i know how in superchargers you need to upgrade some fuel stuff.
you dont need the forged internal or fuel upgerades for that setup. and u can install it your self, i dont have expirince with it but it looks like its a bolt on kit.
no no no.. i am just comparing my options right now so i can make the best economical decision. im very paranoid when it comes to big decisions like this. so far im leaning more towards...
4psi + complete kit
4.10 + Tlok + chip + 8.8 rear
the complete kit will probably cost near 3600 shipped (just an approx) plus 1000 for labor? not sure... just throwing out numbers.
the gears and whatnot will probably done first and that will probably cost around a grand.
i have to research the prices on the 8.8 rear and install prices and stuff.
after all this ill probably be done with performance.
eh.. are you sure? i thought the CAI was a bit tricky haha.
im not so sure if i said it in this thread but i said it before.. i know a mediocre amount about cars, turbos, superchargers, etc.. i know a lot of theory. however, when it comes to getting my hands dirty i lack experience. im all book knowledge and no experience knowledge.
eh.. are you sure? i thought the CAI was a bit tricky haha.
im not so sure if i said it in this thread but i said it before.. i know a mediocre amount about cars, turbos, superchargers, etc.. i know a lot of theory. however, when it comes to getting my hands dirty i lack experience. im all book knowledge and no experience knowledge.
yeah.. i guess it shouldnt be too big of a problem.
If you passed high school and take your time installing it you’ll have no problem doing it yourself. Everybody fears the unknown and turbochargers are very unknown to most.
Personally I would save up and do it right... don't try to cut corners. Either go with the 4.2l and get forged internals or just buy forged rods and pistons and stay with the 3.8 crank. Then you don't have to worry about anything because in the process of replacing the rods and pistons you can get new headgaskets, check all your bearings... end you can go on and on to replace the heads and intakes and a cam.
But I would not run 9psi on your car if you can not afford to throw a rod
Personally I would save up and do it right... don't try to cut corners. Either go with the 4.2l and get forged internals or just buy forged rods and pistons and stay with the 3.8 crank. Then you don't have to worry about anything because in the process of replacing the rods and pistons you can get new headgaskets, check all your bearings... end you can go on and on to replace the heads and intakes and a cam.
But I would not run 9psi on your car if you can not afford to throw a rod
i dunno man. thats a lot of $$$ i dont have. im gonna get the rims first. then the gears, tlok, and chip. THEN i will work my ass off for the turbo. we'll see how much money i make and go from there according to my budget.
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