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Old 07-30-2009, 01:45 PM   #1
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Long Tube Headers?

I found some long tube headers for a decent price on Stage2Motorsports.com. Are these legit or just a waste?

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Re: Long Tube Headers?

I'd go with MAC's if I were you, that's what I have on my car, and they're 100 dollars cheaper.

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Re: Long Tube Headers?

That's what we put on tigerfan's car as well. He had some bad exhaust leaks but we fixed those with some remflex gaskets and all was good. He originally bought the cheapo gaskets from vatozone...didn't work. lol
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Re: Long Tube Headers?

So he bought these exact ones and had exhaust leak?
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Re: Long Tube Headers?

Sorry, no, he bought the MACs and had the leak. However, it wasn't because of the headers. It was because of the cheap *** gaskets he bought to install them. They were very thing and had little to no crush. Once he ordered a set of the remflex gaskets which are almost a 1/4" think and crush 60% with just 15 ft lbs of torque, he has no issues at all.

Moral of the story....either set you get, don't skimp on the gaskets. Get good ones.

These look to be fine...but the MACs looked plenty good as well. The big difference is that the MACs didn't appear to be ceramic coated. They looked just chromed and the chrome did flake a little in a couple spots.

You will get longer life out of the ceramic ones and it does account for that $100 different. It will also help under hood temps be a little cooler.

So, either way...the macs or the ones you linked to would be fine.
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Re: Long Tube Headers?

Mine didn't flake at all, but it's only been about 3 weeks since I've had them put on so yeah. Either way, your exhaust will have a deeper sound since they're longtubes.
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Re: Long Tube Headers?

Flaking isn't really a big deal when you really think about it. You don't typically go showing off your headers to people...you put them on for sound and/or performance.

My mid lengths look pretty as can be, however, unless you get under my car you will not be able to see them.
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Old 07-30-2009, 02:09 PM   #8
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Re: Long Tube Headers?

That's the only drawback to the longtubes is that they hang down like 2" under your car. Which for me isn't really a problem, I don't go over that many speedbumps.
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Re: Long Tube Headers?

That's why I went with mids on my car...it's low enough without LT's hanging down further. lol
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Lol, well we can't all drive cobras
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Re: Long Tube Headers?

The Ford gaskets are only $7 a piece
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Re: Long Tube Headers?

What i'm gonna do is buy the long tubes and have the midpipes custom cut and welded to fit them.

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Re: Long Tube Headers?

Your best bet would be to get the MAC LT's and O/R H-pipe, and have 2 magnaflow cats welded in.

On the MAC LT's I highly recommend having the O2 bungs moved inboard, unless you have an auto.
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Re: Long Tube Headers?

Your car isn't convertible is it? These headers will not fit the stock K member on convertibles without some modification/work to maneuver around the K member. I had to go with shorties for the time being and ordered chrome, because MAC had a nasty backorder with the ceramic coated shorties at the time. The have discolored, but yea I don't really show them off. Gaskets are solid and work was great, but a nightmare to order. Also what are the diminsions of the Pacesetters? MAC's I believe are 1 5/8 inch primaries with a 2.5 inch collector (atleast my shorties were).
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Old 08-03-2009, 09:31 AM   #15
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Re: Long Tube Headers?

If you bought shorties, you wasted your money. If you don't run long tubes, you might as well stay stock.

You can have the cross member modified to work, and a few guys haven't had any issues.
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Re: Long Tube Headers?

The only difference in cross members is an extra 4 point brace on the verts. Take the brace off and there is no more interference. My K-member is no different than Kyle's or Robert's v6 coupe k-member. Mine just had an extra brace that left my car a looooong time ago.
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Re: Long Tube Headers?

Stage3Motorsports e-mailed me the dimensions of the pacesetters. The primary is 1 5/8" and the collector 2 1/2". Exactly the same as the MAC LT's but at a lower price and free shipping.
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Re: Long Tube Headers?

O.o. I had free shipping on mine and they were only $258, I do believe.
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Re: Long Tube Headers?

yeah, but its ceramic or nothing dog.
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*shrugs* Whatever works for you bro
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