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Old 06-12-2005, 12:55 AM   #1
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Ugh roll start? No.

TT 300 ZX vs a couple of cars including an 03 Cobra stang with bolt ons. Guess what? Rolling start, he wouldn't do it from a stop. Sorry, rolling starts are for people who know they'll lose. Guess you should change your car a bit so you don't have to be a chicken **** eh? Sorry, kinda pissy.

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alot of cars with lots of power dislike going from a dig. its hard on the drivetrain. after 400hp axles become toothpicks just waiting to snap at the light. going from a roll is easier on the moving parts, plus its more car vs car. digs are more of driver skill. being me, i dont care about the driver, i want to see how the car performs.

though id prolly be different if i had awd/rwd that wasnt useless at a light like fwd is.
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Old 06-12-2005, 02:17 AM   #3
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When you take it to the track though, you don't start off by rolling :/ I see no point.. show me how good a car is from start to finish, from dead stop, to hauling ***.
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When you take it to the track though, you don't start off by rolling
i do. when i ran my car with just the intake and catback i rolled out of the line like a normal light, and still got a 15.3. it wasnt till i got about 10mph that i hit it, spun first, then shifted into 2nd and took off.

see for me, the end of the track is just where it gets fun. its like "hey i finally got traction, now im at full boost, oh ****, its already over, time to stop."
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Old 06-12-2005, 09:08 AM   #5
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that sucks, you should definitely get a rwd or the awd then
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that, and a lot of turbo boys cant launch, i cant launch my damn car, i can launch a V8, or a V6, or an N/A 4 banger, but add a turbo to a no-torque engine, and it makes launching hard

you can ride the clutch out, build boost, and then bog, youre not making boost, and you lost the race, or you can just spin and spin and spin, its hard
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FWD cars cant launch, well compared to rwd, i guess from a stop is bad for them. If you are going to race then that includes starting from a stop. As long as both people agree to it fine... but dont assume just because you beat a car from a roll that you can from a stop and of course the other way around also.
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that, and a lot of turbo boys cant launch, i cant launch my damn car, i can launch a V8, or a V6, or an N/A 4 banger, but add a turbo to a no-torque engine, and it makes launching hard

you can ride the clutch out, build boost, and then bog, youre not making boost, and you lost the race, or you can just spin and spin and spin, its hard
i dont have a problem launching w/ my turbo 4cyl
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aka AWD + massive rpm load lol
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i ran an integra ls (i'm assuming) 5-speed with a couple bolt-ons. and an OK launch for me and a good launch for him put us equal off the line. and we ran dead even till 60.....after which i pulled slowly away.
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then we ran from a 60 roll..........i pulled slowly away
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racing from rolls is half of what racing is... just downshift so youre in your powerband, and you dont have to deal with the bull**** no traction stuff. Launching a v6 with 4.10s is cakewalk compared to the v8 with 4.10s. I hardly spun with the sixxer, the cobra cant get traction in first for the life of it... or second for that matter lol
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ha, yeah, launching mine hard usually puts me off the rev limiter in under 2 seconds... I can't launch it above 2000 rpm with street tires and a hard shift into 2nd will have me spinning all the way through that too. I haven't had much chance to practice a good launch since the clutch has 100 miles left on the break in yet.

But I'd still rather race from a dig. Anything else is only 1/4 of a race. (the launch is much more then half of the race)
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that, and a lot of turbo boys cant launch, i cant launch my damn car, i can launch a V8, or a V6, or an N/A 4 banger, but add a turbo to a no-torque engine, and it makes launching hard

you can ride the clutch out, build boost, and then bog, youre not making boost, and you lost the race, or you can just spin and spin and spin, its hard

dude you rev up to 3k RPMs, light changes, let the clutch most of the way out at WOT, slip the clutch to about 5k RPMs and you'll be hauling ***
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meh...roll racing can be fun but it's kinda lame and gay.

I prefer launching and hooking and feeling the torque of the car push you back into the seat. When I finally build my project car, the wheels will be coming off the ground,and traction is a hell of a lot moer fun/impressive than roll racing
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dude you rev up to 3k RPMs, light changes, let the clutch most of the way out at WOT, slip the clutch to about 5k RPMs and you'll be hauling ***
and bog bog bog

for some reason, i just havnt gotten it figured out

now, you all talk about 1/4 mile racing, i prefer open track events, so i can usually give two ****s about a launch, thats why i dont put much practice into it, so i just run from a roll most of the time, most cars will leap from the launch, and i reel em back in
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alright dude, next sunday when I'm down there you're gonna let me drive your car (I'll let you drive mine in return) and I'll show you how to launch a 2.3T

I've done it 3 times now, each time I got a 2.1 60' on street tires and matched the owners' 1/4 mile time, beat it once
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ive always thought about not being able to hook up as a handicap instead of something to brag about. its like hey look at me I got all this hp and I didnt do a thing about hooking it up! So I might as well have 200 less hp cuz im performing just as I would have if I did! lol get some suspension! I know on the street its pointless but make the most out of that power at the track.
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ive always thought about not being able to hook up as a handicap instead of something to brag about. its like hey look at me I got all this hp and I didnt do a thing about hooking it up! So I might as well have 200 less hp cuz im performing just as I would have if I did! lol get some suspension! I know on the street its pointless but make the most out of that power at the track.
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that's how I got my '02 into the 13s after someone called me a *****

now they're saying I should launch at 5k

that's just too far outta my league lol

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