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Old 07-20-2005, 02:53 AM   #1
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i have a 1997 mustang v6 5spd 115k original miles. want to install a mac off road h-pipe with a custom side exhuast but my question was does the off road hpipe bolt on like the stock one and will my sensor reach the pipe holes(v6 stangs have 4 sensors right) or do i have to buy extensions.
Any suggestions on which mil eliminators i shoud use. because i heard the wire mil eliminator was better than the on that plugs right in.
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i have a 1997 mustang v6 5spd 64k original miles. want to install a mac off road h-pipe with a custom side exhuast but my question was does the off road hpipe bolt on like the stock one and will my sensor reach the pipe holes(v6 stangs have 4 sensors right) or do i have to buy extensions.
Any suggestions on which mil eliminators i shoud use. because i heard the wire mil eliminator was better than the on that plugs right in.
No there are only 2 sensors. Do you have inspections in Texas??? If you do you will never pass inspection.
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Passing the inspection is very easy just man thats no problem
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Passing the inspection is very easy just man thats no problem
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Old 07-20-2005, 12:27 PM   #5
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i just wanna know if im going to have to use extensions and what mil elimintaros are the best
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What ever brand you buy make sure they are the plug in type and not the type you have to splice in and no you wont need extensions
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Old 07-20-2005, 12:41 PM   #7
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ok how about mil eliminators
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I was talking about Mil's
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sorry i didnt read it right sorry but many people say the ones you have to splice are better cause ther others somtimes dont plug in on one end
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sorry i didnt read it right sorry but many people say the ones you have to splice are better cause ther others somtimes dont plug in on one end
Did they buy the wrong ones???? I know people who use both and have not heard that. Plug in types are so much easier to install. I know some people who still get the engine light even with the MIL eliminators. Actually the best way is to get a chip to turn it off. If you are going to install gears in the future you will need a chip anyway to remove the speed limiter and raise your RPM limiter. By the way what engine mods do you have that require a O/R H pipe. Typically without P&P heads, intakes and cam a stock V6 sounds rather crappy with O/R H pipes. Dont believe the advertised HP claims of what a H pipe and dual exhaust will give you. A stock V6 exhaust is not very restrictive and will only gain you maybe 5 or 6 HP but if you plan to do some real engine mods then you will benefit

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Old 07-20-2005, 01:13 PM   #11
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the exhaust is going to be my first mode im planing on mac off-road h-pipe with a custom side exhuast with magnaflow mufflers will my car sound crappy. oh yeah about the mils ive also heard people say they but the mils on and work fine after a week the light comes on and off and chips are to expensive
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Like I was saying O/R H pipes on stock engines sound crappy but a modded engine sound good with a O/R H pipe. If you wanting a good engine growl from your exhaust and not a loud obnoxious raspy noise you will get from a O/R H pipe, skip H pipe and mils all together and get some more useful mods. Then if you ever decide to go and do some engine mods you can get a H pipe. You will get more HP out of a CAI and UDP than you will out of a H Pipe
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Old 07-20-2005, 01:52 PM   #13
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is there any place where i can hear an offroad hpipe or something similar
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I am sure someone has a soundclip of a stock 94-98 with a H pipe on it somewhere!!
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they sound very very loud and very very nasty, I wouldnt do it. I would just get custom true dual exhaust with flowmasters or what ever and be done with it. Your will move your power up in the rpm's a tad with the flow being so free and the car may even feel slower to you.

MIL's dont work that great some times, I would get a chip since for your car they are pretty darn cheap, MIL's can be a fix for a bit until you can get a chip.
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i would really love to hear an off-road h pipe and i would really like to remove the catalytic convertes because our cars have 4 right
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I would aslo like to hear a clip of a stock motor with o/r h-pipe
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well the two back cats Im not sure if they are actually considered cats... someone will chime in and say but I have also heard them refered to as resonators... hmmmm

Ive rod in v6s with no cats, its a horrid sound, nearly as bad as a 4 banger honda with a fart muffler.
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No they are all cats instead of one on each side doing all the chemical conversions they break it down into 2 steps

Both cats do something

The first converter is a reduction catalyst converter. Platinum and rhodium reduce NO emissions. The NO gas is a byproduct of the combustion reaction that provides the energy for the automobile. The reaction that occurs in this sector of the catalytic converter is as follows:

2NO => N 2 + O 2 or 2NO 2 => N 2 + 2O 2.

The second converter is an oxidation catalyst converter. Carbon monoxide is also a byproduct of a combustion reaction and is an unwanted pollutant in the environment. The oxidation catalyst reduces carbon monoxide into carbon dioxide as follows:

without both the process is not complete and illegal
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If would still like to buy an O/R h-pipe from MAC, I sell them for $150+shipping which is about $22.
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Ok let me ask this question which gives you more horsepower an o/r h-pipe or an hiflow converter h-pipe and is the hiflow h-pipe street legal
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Ok let me ask this question which gives you more horsepower an o/r h-pipe or an hiflow converter h-pipe and is the hiflow h-pipe street legal
Hp between the 2 on a stock motor 0-2 HP difference. Yes High flow catts are legal in most states. The big difference is in the noise
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ok heres another question the stock cats with true duals or hiflo h-pipe with true duals whats the diffrence in hp and which will sound better
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ok heres another question the stock cats with true duals or hiflo h-pipe with true duals whats the diffrence in hp and which will sound better
Sound will be not much different slightly more air flow with the catted H and you would add a couple of HP. Really dont think of exhaust mods oon a stock engine as HP adders because the increase in minimal. Dual exhaust on a stock V6 is more for sound and looks. Any turbo, Chambered or flow thru designed dual exhaust muffler is going to sound better than the stock V6 muffler.

It is all about how loud you want in determining which muffer.

Do you want to wake the dead
Do you want an aggressive growl
Do you want a sleeper sound.
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Diffrence in sound and hp of the stock catalytics and the hiflow h-pipe
is it worth it leaving the stock pipe with only the hpipe conversion kit which you have to weld
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