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Old 10-26-2005, 03:23 PM   #1
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Official Detroit LSD thread.

For those that would like to know what a Detroit TruTrac LSD is, it's components, and how it works:

http://www.detroitlocker.com/DT.htm

For a cheap place to get it (it used to say $354.00, but upon personal investigation as of 10/25/05, it is still the same price):

http://www.drivetrainspecialists.com...duct-5407.html

For discussion of the pro's and con's:

http://3.8mustang.com/forum/showthre...t=detroit+site

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Re: Official Detroit LSD thread.

I just checked the site and they make them for the 7.5".

I looked under parts for the 85 Turbocoupe.
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Re: Official Detroit LSD thread.

Too much for a 7.5 imo.

You still got gears to buy and installation which will probably run you close to 300+ dollars

After all that is said and done you could have you an 8.8
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Re: Official Detroit thread.

Which will still need to be built a little more.
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Re: Official Detroit thread.

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I just checked the site and they make them for the 7.5".

I looked under parts for the 85 Turbocoupe.
Yeah the price link is for a 7.5.
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Which will still need to be built a little more.
If your pre-99 its a waste of money.

I bought mine for 275 dollars with 4.10s in it, which = less than just that locker.

All I need to buy now is a stout LSD and I am set... but I wont be buying that until my stock one decides to give out... which I doubt it will.

If you maintain a stock 8.8 it will be able to handle almost all the power your 3.8 will throw at it.
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Re: Official Detroit thread.

That's what I plan on doing when my poor little automatic gives up the ghost (which probably wont take long): dropping in the souped up manual! Oh, yeah!
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Re: Official Detroit LSD thread.

by the time you pay nearly 400 bucks for the tlok and 200 for gears and another 300 for gear install you are over the price of an 8.8 rear end brand new (with out axles, but you can use your oem ones) and it will take just about any amount of power you can put to it without going super overboard (massive power)
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Re: Official Detroit LSD thread.

if you are going to go big time with that motor and plan on running dr's get a 31 spline 8.8
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Re: Official Detroit thread.

ALL RIGHT! Good God! Everyone has their own opinion on the locker vs. 8.8! I'm getting tired of everyone, including moderators, continuing this no matter where it appears! Come on guys, I'm seriously venting right now, so lets everyone grow up and realize that everyone's opinion is different! This thread was created by me for the sole purpose of clearing up some of the misinformation about the Detroit Tru Trac, not to be a continuation of the same old already discussed in other threads. Let's keep this one clean of anymore rants. Obviouly, however, it is not being used for this as some people think it's an actual locker instead of an LSD ! THIS IS FOR INFORMATION, NOT OPINION!
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ALL RIGHT! Good God! Everyone has their own opinion on the locker vs. 8.8!
Duh what did you expect? Everyone to just agree with you

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I'm getting tired of everyone, including moderators, continuing this no matter where it appears!
I fail to see what you are complaining about.

Do you not like people disagreeing with you? Sorry but I am not going to recommend something I dont believe is the right choice. I really fail to see why you are upset....

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Come on guys, I'm seriously venting right now, so lets everyone grow up and realize that everyone's opinion is different!
Exactly.. so why are you complaining? Your telling me I am wrong basically... and I am telling you you are wrong.. you don't see me exploding because your telling people to beef up their 7.5.. you see me recommending otherwise.

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This thread was created by me for the sole purpose of clearing up some of the misinformation about the Detroit Tru Trac, not to be a continuation of the same old already discussed in other threads.
Exactly, and you linked to a thread about the pros and cons. What did you want us to discuss in here then? Pat you on the back and say the Detriot LSD is god and everyone should be ditiching their 8.8 and go with a 7.5?

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Your the only one ranting dude

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Obviouly, however, it is not being used for this as some people think it's an actual locker instead of an LSD ! THIS IS FOR INFORMATION, NOT OPINION!
No one in this thread said it was a locker
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Re: Official Detroit LSD thread.

1. I expect everyone to quit pursuing arguements on something that has been discussed in other threads.

2. Moderators should be above petty pursuits of getting their opinion out. I believe everyone knows your opinion on this by now. I'm not saying your right/wrong/upsidedown/or anything. I'm not asking you or anyone else for recommendations on this. This thread is for knowledge on a potential alternative to buying an entire axle set-up.

3. You and others continue to pursue opinions that everyone already knows. The point of this thread is not to TELL everyone to beef up the 7.5. As stated above, it is only meant to be used for information on an alternative.

4. The link for pro's and con's was meant to be a quick reference for both sides. If I was intending to display this particular LSD as god, I would not have shown anything contrary to it. AGAIN, this is for information on an alternative.

5. Rants are incited by what has already been said above. Petty pursuits of in your face I'm right and your wrong. At no time have I said that you are wrong. For a lot more power, the 8.8 built is, of course, better. However, for more realistic v6 numbers, the built 7.5 can be sufficient.

6. People who have been posting in other threads over this have randomly determined it locks your axles together when it does no such thing. It is and LSD.

Now, with all this having been said, I have nothing against you or anyone else who has been pursuing an argument, and before anyone says I have been pursuing it, I have not. Check the post order. I have only returned an arguement once one has been started. I have not gone to threads on similar subjects and pursued the arguements there. The only thing I have a problem with is some people's need to justify that what they are saying is Biblical truth. On this, no line can be drawn as to what is right or what is wrong.

Now, LET"S ALL BE STINKING HAPPY!
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Re: Official Detroit LSD thread.

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2. Moderators should be above petty pursuits of getting their opinion out. I believe everyone knows your opinion on this by now. I'm not saying your right/wrong/upsidedown/or anything. I'm not asking you or anyone else for recommendations on this. This thread is for knowledge on a potential alternative to buying an entire axle set-up.
So your purpose of making this "Official Thread" was to get information out on the new product correct? This "Official Thread" does not contain my opinion on this product because it is not the one were the discussion was held.

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You and others continue to pursue opinions that everyone already knows. The point of this thread is not to TELL everyone to beef up the 7.5. As stated above, it is only meant to be used for information on an alternative.
No one that opens up this thread knows my opinion on this product if I do not respond with my opinion in my threads.

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The link for pro's and con's was meant to be a quick reference for both sides. If I was intending to display this particular LSD as god, I would not have shown anything contrary to it. AGAIN, this is for information on an alternative.
And my information was to the contrary as yours was to the contrary of mine in this new thread.

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Rants are incited by what has already been said above.
In other threads. Meaning some new person comes into this site, they do not know my opinion, which is why I posted my opinion again in this thread.

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Petty pursuits of in your face I'm right and your wrong. At no time have I said that you are wrong. For a lot more power, the 8.8 built is, of course, better. However, for more realistic v6 numbers, the built 7.5 can be sufficient.
and all I was saying for basically the same price you can get a 8.8 that can handle the same amount of power as your 3.8, but offers more room to expand in the future.

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Now, with all this having been said, I have nothing against you or anyone else who has been pursuing an argument, and before anyone says I have been pursuing it, I have not. Check the post order. I have only returned an arguement once one has been started. I have not gone to threads on similar subjects and pursued the arguements there.
I posted in this thread because like I have said before, this is the "Official Thread" and I wanted my opinion to be known in this thread since we have it all nice and organized now. That is why I reposted my opinion, not to follow you around and piss you off I got better things to do.
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lol you can do what ever you wish and I will help you regardless of your opinion, I was just stating a few things for you to consider. In the end you can make which ever decision you wish and Im sure you will be happy with it. I find it best to have all the information available when making a decision though.
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6. People who have been posting in other threads over this have randomly determined it locks your axles together when it does no such thing. It is and LSD.
Since you're referring to me. I "determined it locks your axles together" when you repeatedly called it a LOCKER. Why don't you go back and re-read your post that you had such a hissy fit about. I called you out on why someone would want to buy a locker and you responded with something like "It's not a locker, didn't mean to call it that." That is why I "determined it locks your axles together"

I never went to the link on 3.8 because frankly, I don't care. I don't goto that forum anymore, and don't want to read some huge thread when you can summerize it in a few short sentences. Hmm.. Cliffs Notes or huge thread :dunno: Hard call

Why are you so hell-bent on everyone getting this posi unit anyway? If this is the "official thread" why not make it informative and not biased. Why not say something like "New posi unit out for 7.5s" then give info about it w/o going into detail about the 8.8 at all. That would be a wise "official thread" post.

Anyway, you are now on my ignore list as you have nothing useful to contribute to this forum. As for my "I know everything attitude," seeing as how the 94-2004 V6s are the same minus new intake manifolds/heads, 1.5" wider rear end, and other very minor details, they are effectivly the same car. So thus, experience from my single port does pass to the split ports And yes, I do know more than you. "The downside of being better than everyone is people tend to assume you're pretentious"

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Since you're referring to me. I "determined it locks your axles together" when you repeatedly called it a LOCKER.
I wasn't referring to you. However, upon reading the thread that you contributed to on 3.8, you used the term t-lock interchangeably with LSD units, along with a lot of other people. Sounds like we've both been making the same mistake...

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Why are you so hell-bent on everyone getting this posi unit anyway? If this is the "official thread" why not make it informative and not biased. Why not say something like "New posi unit out for 7.5s" then give info about it w/o going into detail about the 8.8 at all. That would be a wise "official thread" post.
Hmm...that's exactly what the very first post in this thread was, only info sites were listed, unbiased as, again, only info sites were given, Nothing mentioned about the 8.8at all. (Checks off list) Guess I did a better job than I thought!

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I wasn't referring to you. However, upon reading the thread that you contributed to on 3.8, you used the term t-lock interchangeably with LSD units, along with a lot of other people. Sounds like we've both been making the same mistake...

A t-lok is a LSD, not a locker, Traction Lok is Ford's Limited Slip Differential.
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t-lok is simply fords name for lsd.
like GM uses posi traction for lsd
*drool* LSD
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A t-lok is a LSD, not a locker, Traction Lok is Ford's Limited Slip Differential.
Well that's what I figured in the first place.
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don't argue with brent... he'll win... i'm tellin you, he'll bring links and ****

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Well, if "T-Lock" is Ford's name for it then where in Hades did Monkey get that I was saying it was a locker? Oh well.
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Well, if "T-Lock" is Ford's name for it then where in Hades did Monkey get that I was saying it was a locker? Oh well.
you were calling it a detroi locker, the true trac is not a detroit locker.
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God this is a really bad thread. For an "Official" thread it has no technical value and as such is a candidate for moving to the bar or complete lockdown!!!
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you were calling it a detroi locker, the true trac is not a detroit locker.
Show me the post that I said that in.

As for the thread, it's entirely not what I wanted it to be either. Maybe if Brent can split it off to where it's just the first post again...
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I'm tired of splitting posts up. This will be the third thread I have had to split that you were involved in!

This thread is here for reference but no more posting here.
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I'm tired of splitting posts up. This will be the third thread I have had to split that you were involved in!

This thread is here for reference but no more posting here.
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