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Old 11-08-2005, 02:24 PM   #1
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i need new brake pads of my 03 v6... whats the best for the money?... where do i find them?
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Re: brake pads

OEM ford just like came on it. They dont have alot of problems with brake dust. The next step would be upgrade to cobra brakes, simple bolt on... but you will need 17 inch rims.
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OEM ford just like came on it. They dont have alot of problems with brake dust. The next step would be upgrade to cobra brakes, simple bolt on... but you will need 17 inch rims.
I am right with Brandon on this. have tried Hawk, Power stop and bendix and The Ford pads provide the least brake fade and least brake dust. I bet you diod not know most aftermarket pads dont meet OEM standards because they dont have to. Only about 20% of the pads are OEM standard.
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Re: brake pads

What about Bendix ceramic? I'm thinking about trying those when I do my tune up.
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Re: brake pads

i always use bendix
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Re: brake pads

I've heard good stuff about 'em, but I haven't sold many ceramics because they're expensive, so I never know how well they do...?
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Re: brake pads

I currently have bendix and before I had genuine Ford GT pads. The Bendix OEM pads are OEM pads and meet or exceed OEM spec's but you need to specify the Bendix OEM pads because there are different models of bendix pads. Here is something some of you dont know but even though GT's and V6's share the same calipers for a given year. In 1999 the pads were different. Stock GT pads are Ceramic and V6's are carbon metallic.
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Re: brake pads

there wont be a huge difference anyway on the stock calipers.... if you want better braking upgrade to new calipers/rotors. Even then the increase in stopping power is mainly due to the larger rotors, not the caliper/pads.
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Re: brake pads

So, would it be worth the money to have Bendix ceramic pads that are guaranteed for the life of the car? I'm wanting some better breaking power but probably wont ever upgrade my brake system because I'm not gonna drive stupid on the street.
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Re: brake pads

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So, would it be worth the money to have Bendix ceramic pads that are guaranteed for the life of the car? I'm wanting some better breaking power but probably wont ever upgrade my brake system because I'm not gonna drive stupid on the street.
It's stupid to upgrade your power and not your braking power. period.
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Re: brake pads

Spend the money on some good pads.

Ceramics are supposed to be non-dusting, no fade, and quiet pads. Thats about all the difference. Cheap pads dust big time and fade quickly.
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Re: brake pads

The only real problem with ceramic pads is first thing in the morning or if the car sits for a while and gets cold. Cold Ceramic pads dont work great until they heat up a bit. The hotter ceramics get the better they work. Which is opposite of Metallic pads which can fade when getting really hot.
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Re: brake pads

Alrighty here I come with the official word. As some of you may know, I work at an Advance Auto Parts but only have for a few months (I really wanted the job so I could learn more about all types of vehicles and systems). I got to have a nice long talk with our parts specialist.

Ford original equipment pads are very good.

Any brake pad with the name Bendix on it is AT LEAST as good as OE. While Bendix does make the lower grade Wearver pad, they do not say Bendix on the box anywhere. So if you get Bendix, they're at least as good as what came with the car. Plus with Bendix, you will only pay for one set of brake pads for the life of the vehicle, life time replacement, even against wear. Bendix also has SLIGHTLY improved braking distance.

The only draw back to Ceramic pads is shorter life span.

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It's stupid to upgrade your power and not your braking power. period.
This however, depends entirely on driving style. I didn't have to ask to know that. I, for one, will 90% of the time, drive identically to the way I drive now after I get the turbo. Upgrading braking power is recommended but far from necessary unless you're the type that likes to take winding country roads marked at 35 mph at 60. In that case, yes you had better upgrade the braking system. But if you don't plan on driving RECKLESSLY, it's not necessary.
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Re: brake pads

^ off the topic but there's no way you're gonna drive the same with a turbo. you know you're not gonna go through all the trouble and money to drive at the same pace. you know you're going to get those RPM's singing accompanied by a chorus of air exiting to atmoshpere all the time...lol..

i should upgrade my brakes because of the other idiots on the road. I drive calm and cool but there's too many poop heads that can't drive.
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^ I thought about typing that out, then decided, nah. It won't matter.
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Re: brake pads

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This however, depends entirely on driving style. I didn't have to ask to know that. I, for one, will 90% of the time, drive identically to the way I drive now after I get the turbo. Upgrading braking power is recommended but far from necessary unless you're the type that likes to take winding country roads marked at 35 mph at 60. In that case, yes you had better upgrade the braking system. But if you don't plan on driving RECKLESSLY, it's not necessary.
So youre trying to say that youll possibly have what, 400hp, and your going to have brakes designed to stop a car with what? 190hp?

I dont care what you drive, or how you drive, if you have more power, and use it, you WILL need brakes that are at least compairable to the power your car makes

its the same reason a 4 banger stang gets 10" disks up front, and a GT gets 11" up front, how the 94+ v6 and GT gets 11", while the cobra gets 13"

if you have the potential to go fast, youre going to need the potential to stop faster, if you dont feel the same way, youre a complete idiot, and i hope a tree jumps out in front of you
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Re: brake pads

Durg! I did teh double post.
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Re: brake pads

Well I guess for those of you who like to drive at 80 miles per hour all the time, YOU need bigger/better brakes. I plan on keeping my car/life/insurance/body parts/passengers/etc. intact. So I wont be driving in such a way that will require me to slam on my brakes and have to stop going 100mph in the same distance it would take me to stop going 50 with stock brakes. As I said before, it is a GOOD IDEA to upgrade your brakes when upgrading power BUT if you drive sainly you wont HAVE to have them. To me, all they are is a safety precaution against people like y'all I guess.

If a tree jumps out in front of you, and you have a 190hp car going 50mph, it will take you the same amount of time to stop in a 400hp car going 50mph. Common sense, so piss off on the "Hope a tree jumps out in front of you". If a tree were going to jump out in front me I would probably hit it whether I had stock brakes or the complete Brembo system. If you plan on doing slolums or tracks like that, yeah you need better brakes. I don't. I would consider better brakes as a safety precaution like seat belts, alarm, etc. to prevent things that could happen due to things beyond my control, not just because I got a better performing engine.
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Re: brake pads

So you mean to tell me that you want 400hp just for bragging rights? And not to use it? Just put a whistle tip and a BOV simulator on the car, itll be the same thing.

If your car is capable of 150mph, it would be logical to have brakes capable of stopping the car from 150mph without struggling.

****, id be more worried about you running into the back of someone than someone doing something stupid and hitting you.
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Re: brake pads

How about this.......everyone has their own opinions, he doesn't think he needs new brakes, so he won't get brakes. You aren't gonna convince him otherwise, no use in arguing about it.
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How about this.......everyone has their own opinions, he doesn't think he needs new brakes, so he won't get brakes. You aren't gonna convince him otherwise, no use in arguing about it.
He doesnt need any more help looking like an idiot i guess.
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If a tree jumps out in front of you, and you have a 190hp car going 50mph, it will take you the same amount of time to stop in a 400hp car going 50mph.
All I need to say.
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All I need to say.
Unless the 400HP car weighs more, which it will almost always. In that case it will infact, take you longer to stop the 400hp car
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Unless the 400HP car weighs more, which it will almost always. In that case it will infact, take you longer to stop the 400hp car
Fact is, you have a car capable of going faster than what the cars brakes are capable of stopping, you are going to need better brakes.

So what if you dont go 150 on the street, you might go 150 on the track, and need to stop. Your stock 11" brakes wont halt you from 150 without brake fade out the ***. They wont stop you from 100 without brake fade.

Its like taking your windsheild wipers off of your car and saying "i dont always drive in the rain"
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Re: brake pads

the argument of having more hp/tq needing more breaking power is that you will be going faster... still odd... what ever...
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Re: brake pads

I must say that when I swapped in my new (at the time) motor with H/C/I, I noticed that my stock fox brakes really started to suck ***. Must have been all that extra power (probably around 80-90 at the wheels) I was making... thank God for PBRs!
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I must say that when I swapped in my new (at the time) motor with H/C/I, I noticed that my stock fox brakes really started to suck ***. Must have been all that extra power (probably around 80-90 at the wheels) I was making... thank God for PBRs!
If you have a larger cam with overlap in the intake and exhaust valves you lost vacuum which makes the power brake system feel spongy and reduces pressure to the calipers.

The solution is either a booster pump or a vacuum canister.
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good point, he is wondering about brake bads and not the whole brake set up. so anyways, i currently have Hawk ceramics and brembo slotted rotors, not the big ones but oem replacement that are just slotted. when you first put the pads on they will dust like crazy, and i mean that. i work at advance and i would reccomend the Bendix bads or the Friction Master ceramics. they don't have nearly as much dust as the Hawk pads do. Bendix are also garanteed not to squeel or your money back.
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good point, he is wondering about brake bads and not the whole brake set up. so anyways, i currently have Hawk ceramics and brembo slotted rotors, not the big ones but oem replacement that are just slotted. when you first put the pads on they will dust like crazy, and i mean that. i work at advance and i would reccomend the Bendix bads or the Friction Master ceramics. they don't have nearly as much dust as the Hawk pads do. Bendix are also garanteed not to squeel or your money back.
I have never tried Friction Master are they certified to meet or exceed OEM specs with the cert label on the box. I have found if they dont have the cert label on them they dont meet OEM standards. I like Bendix and Ford OEM GT pads and I was rather disappionted with Hawk with the heavy dust and not really any noticable brake improvement. But then again I was not expecting much either.
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Re: brake pads

Actually, I was just trying to use sarcasm to point out the fact that as long as the weight of the car is the same, brakes are going to be just as effective when a car is making 80 hp as it will when the car is making 500 hp. Of course, you do make a good point about loss of vacuum having an effect. My cam is relatively mild though (Comp XE270HR), so I didn't have that problem.

Don't get me wrong now, I'm all for upgrading brakes. In fact, I really wish I had some nice Cobra brakes all around. I'm just arguing the point that power level does not matter at all, as far as braking is concerned. As long as all other factors are the same (tires, brake condition, weight, vacuum...), a 500 hp car will come to a stop from 100 mph just as quickly as a 80 hp car.

So why does Ford put bigger, better brakes on models with more power? Hmm... maybe it's because these models are more expensive? Maybe because these models are expected to perform better in areas other than just going in a straight line as fast as possible? Call me crazy...

Oh yeah, brake pads. I'd recommend just buying the OE Ford pads. They'll cost you more than some cheap AutoZone special pads, but they are also proven performers. You get what you pay for.
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thats why i suggested the Advance Auto parts Bendix pads and not the auto zone The bendix only cost about $40.00 for the front pads and about $30.00 for the rear. the bendix are the OE equipment that goes on the car.
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I belive, in fact, that Bendix actually makes Ford OEM pads. If not Ford specifically, they make, I think it's 60-70% of all OEM pads.

Ditto to bbunt302.
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the friction master pads to meet or exceed the oem specs. I know what you mean about the Hawk ceramics, i have them now and they dust really bad. i have to polish my wheels almost every week just to keep them shiney. If you want just oem quality which isn't really bad go with the Bendix pads. if your set on ceramics go with friction master pads.
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