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Old 11-20-2005, 07:09 PM   #1
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if i get the h&r super sport springs for my v6 will i have to buy anything else? they lower the car 1.5''?? if anyone knows springs that lower that low and are cheaper than $235 shipped let me know.
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Re: h&r springs

i guess it depends on the driving you do. i bought the bullitt suspension package and am liking it so far. It's not a harsh ride like people say the "C" springs can be.
with a 1.5" drop you may need cc plates. i asked similar questions not too long ago and some people end up needing them and others don't.

Try researching other springs cuz i know you can get the drop you're looking for cheaper.

www.rdmotorsport.com has some nice package deals and if you want something he doesn't have he can probably get it for you.
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i have yet to find anyone with those springs any cheaper. everywhere else i have found is $265 or more shipped
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Re: h&r springs

Are you intent on getting those springs? And yeh...anything around 1.5, you might need c/c plates. My car is right around 1.5 dropped on the front, and I definitely needed c/c plates.
But I have C springs, the same that dude above has. I love em, and the drop is pretty nice.
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i'm not stuck on those springs i just want the biggest drop without having to get cc plates. they are really expensive and i wouldn't be able to buy them for like 6 months cause of all the money i have spent lately on my car. i heard that c-springs gave a bad ride though.
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Re: h&r springs

If you wanna tote around mirrors and vases in your car, maybe not. But if you love to drive a car you can feel and know exactly what your car is doing, then I like a slightly rough ride. I have c-springs, cut coil in the rear, and I don't hear complaints from passengers.

No C/C plates yet, but I need them pretty badly.
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Re: h&r springs

Well, if you are wanting a smoother ride than c springs, you might want to look into ford b springs, I believe they are a touch softer, but they might not give you the same drop.
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Re: h&r springs

you do not have to get anything, but at 1.5 inches your stock shocks/struts are going to go soon, so be saving up for them or get them while you are at it (get the ones for lowered stangs (mach 1 tokicos are set up for 1.5 inches~)

then you will need a set of CC plates eventually... i would get them when the springs go on if you drop it more than 1.1 inches. (i would even then but thats just me)

you can get any brand you wish but mm's cc plates are amazing and work great
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Re: h&r springs

I have H&R's and yes youll need c/c plates. Ive had c-springs as well, and yes youll need c/c plates.
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Re: h&r springs

200 bucks for cc plates but they are the best on the market for adjustability, you can go cheaper and perhaps get some that will adjust you but thats a risk you have to take.
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I have the sportline springs..lowers it up 2 1/4. I dont have Caster/cambers. I've had it set up like this for 3 years with no problems. I got front bilsteins from my friends 03 cobra. Now I just need the rears. I sonn will be going to coil overs. My friend works @ maximum & hooks me up.
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yeah i think i am just going to go with the h&r's and add some isolators, so it raises it just enough where i don't need cc plates.
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Re: h&r springs

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i have yet to find anyone with those springs any cheaper. everywhere else i have found is $265 or more shipped
there's several other name brands that are cheaper and provide just as good of quality. find a spring rate you want and the maximum drop and go from there. take a look at the ford "b" or "c" springs. you can find them from $140-$190...... The H&R are going to be just as rough if not worse then the C springs.

Right now i have the tokico shocks and c springs on my rear and it handles like a sportscar should. when i have time i'm going to do the front and put in the rear swaybar and it should be even better. It's not harsh at all and takes corners like a pro.
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Re: h&r springs

i want to drop my car 1.5 inches. everyone says the c-springs won't go that low.
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Re: h&r springs

I have C springs, and my car is right around 1.5 inches. I also have MM 4 way adj c/c plates, tokico s/s, bullitt front and rear sways, and steeda subframes. They will drop your car that far if you want.
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Re: h&r springs

so the c-springs lower 1.5 in the fron and back or just the front?? do you have pics of your car lowflyn??
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Re: h&r springs

Yeh, here ya go...
And just for your info, the back is probably a touch lower than the front, I have around 200 lbs of speakers in the back.
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yeah well i will have a sub in the back also. those do look alot lower than i thought. you may have just changed my mind.
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Re: h&r springs

I cut 1/2 coil off back and 3/4 off front. I def needed c/c plates however. But..what you can do, is get the c springs, and run them without being cut for a little while until you can afford c/c plates, then cut your springs. Without cutting them you will get right around 1 inch to 1 1/4 inch drop in the front.
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what would the back be?? how do you cut them and where do you cut the spring??
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Re: h&r springs

Check this article out:
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is there a rear stock isolator??
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so if i put the c-springs and took out both isolators how much would it be lower??
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Re: h&r springs

you do not want to take out either of the rear isolators and you only want to take out the top front if even that. The rears do not have as much pressure on them so they will make alot of noise if you taket them out.

With cut C springs you will see 1.1 to 1.25 inches of drop~ lowflyn's are lower cuz he has more cut I do believe.

Its a good drop for 100 bucks... but H&Rs are a better spring in both rate and being progressive.

Being 1.5 inches lower comes with ALOT of problems...such has jacking the car up or going over bumps etc etc so be ready
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how much of a drop do the c-springs give if i didn't cut them?? and how much would i have to cut to get 1.25??
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Re: h&r springs

the rear would proabably be a little less than an inch, fronts about 1.25"

just cut 1 coil off the rear for an even drop


if youre worried about the caster/camber... get some MM plates. Theyre 166 shipped, cant beat that


FYI, I have no isolators in the front, and only the top in the rear of my car with H&R's and its very low. I dont get squeeking, but its defanitely gonna be hard to go over big bumps.
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Re: h&r springs

the C springs are designed to work on fox bodies as well. That means on the 94 ups the rear will sit higher than the front if you dont cut the rears. It will BARLY drop the rear, maybe .5 inches~

cutting a coil with a saw is very easy (dont us a torch to cut em)
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what exactly do you cut on the spring?? i know you say coil, but i'm not sure i know exactly what and where you are talking about. if there is any way to post a pic that would be great.
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Re: h&r springs

look at the 2nd to last post on this thread by zimstang and you'll see where a full coil cut will be. those are C springs and the cut would be made where he drew the red line on the pic.

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look at the 2nd to last post on this thread by zimstang and you'll see where a full coil cut will be. those are C springs and the cut would be made where he drew the red line on the pic.

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is that the rears?? or do i do that on both??
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Re: h&r springs

^ ahh good point. actually in that pic that is the front C spring. but for the rear you would want to cut it like it's drawn on the front one to get one full coil off.
I actually left my springs alone and didn't cut any coils at all because some guys kept telling me it's bad to cut the spring. They're argument was that the shocks and struts that came with my package were meant for a certain height and spring rate, and by cutting them i would mess it up.

If i were you i would find what s/s would go good with the springs that you want because you're going to want them soon after having the lower springs.
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