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Old 03-03-2006, 12:32 AM   #1
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What would you do....

I rebuilt my Motor about 2 years ago, then yesterday I went to start the car and the Engine did a Odd start and then Ran like it was missing in a cylinder, then I noticed steam in tailpipe.. oh yea, the Head Gasket Blew again, this was the reason I Rebuilt the motor last time.

Now I am sure its just the Gasket again... and is 100% stock motor and I run it HARD when I do drive it ( Remember my over 100mph run accross the USA in January ) So I am sure it didnt help Crossing the county in 40 hours.....

Should I just Repair the Gasket again, keeping in mind this is the motor with the Legendary Head Gasket Fail... or is there a Upgrade I can do for a Resonable cost, or is it time for a V8

I dont want to do to much work, Say 2 days at most...
I dont want to spend much...
I just want a Car I can beat on... lol without a Head Blowing, I understand Brakes will Wear, and other items will break, but COMMON... another Head Gasket?? I never beat on the Engine until the Head is Warmed up.. I understand the Aluminum is Going to Shift if the Temp is way different then the Block, But all I did was start the car with no Gas, just a Idle.

What would you do....
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Old 03-03-2006, 02:06 AM   #2
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Re: What would you do....

I was doing some searching and I see thre is a Item called a HeadSaver

Basicly it is a head shim....
It may Lower the compression of the cylinder silghtly and keep the gasket from blowing....
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Re: What would you do....

just put a new gasket on it, if you run it hard you have to pay the price eventually.
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Old 03-05-2006, 03:39 AM   #4
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Re: What would you do....

Well yea I know to Replace the Gasket, but any other tips I should think about doing when rebuilding...

Things I may not know like anyone ever use one of them HeadSavers?
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Re: What would you do....

I havent heard of the headsavers. Maybe you can o-ring your block? If your capable of taking it out and down to a machine shop I bet they'd do that for you. besides that I would say use copper spray-a-gasket and make sure you clean the threads real nice.
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Old 03-06-2006, 08:13 PM   #6
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Re: What would you do....

copper spray-a-gasket ? Whats that>?
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Re: What would you do....

I was just thinkin, Maybe it was not a Odd Detonation but something else....
If the Head Gasket Sprung a Leak that I would not notice the day before and let the Car sit and cool, then the Presure would have pushed Radiator Fluid in the Cylinder then when I went to start the car that would explain Why it was Violent then Cleared... Must be a Pin hole. I drove the car regular for the entire day yesterday and nothing was wrong, no sent of Antifreeze or any sign of water out of the tail.

So I went to the High performance center and told them about this and they Suggested that I use a Block Sealer that was Ceramic, and follow the Directions Carfully.... I did this today... I am Hoping I can squeeze 2 months out of this til I get EVERYThing lined up to do the work right.

BTW I got the car hot after using the sealer and let it cool, then Started up the cold car and nothing seems wrong... I will test this over the next week.

How much work Difference would it be to Drop in a 4.2 then doing a head rebuild
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Re: What would you do....

you will have to pull the crank out of the block to swap in teh 4.2, so the motor will have to be pulled from the car.
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Re: What would you do....

as well as a full motor rebuild with some different rods.
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Re: What would you do....

BTW they sell copper spray a gasket at most auto stores. It's made by Permatex, comes in a copper can with the picture of a head on it.
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Re: What would you do....

But what is the point of the copper spray gasket...

Is it a Filler? Glue? Coat to help the head slide when temps flux?


When I was a Kid I used Indian Head Gasket Sealer on my Go Carts.. same thing?
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Re: What would you do....

Basically its like a gasket sealant for head gaskets, you just spray it on the gasket, both sides. It helps seal when you torque it all back down.
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Re: What would you do....

Also consider using 99+ head gaskets they are the best, and get studs instead of bolts for the heads.
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Re: What would you do....

The studs are easier to torque down than the stock head bolts too. Less steps. Definitley reccommend them.
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Re: What would you do....

#1 Are the studs reusable?

#2 If I use the Studs are the Torq Specs Different and do I need to back it off like the OE bolts?

#3 Will the 99+ Gaskets fit with no differences?

#4 Will the Sealant interfear with the torqing?
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Re: What would you do....

Answer 1 - I wouldn't ever reuse something as crucial as head studs. I don't believe they are, but neither ar OEM so dont risk it. Just buy new OEMs or get another set of them.

Answer 2 - The studs follow their own torque sequence, it is included in the instructions you get. They are 3 steps and if I remember correctly its 30, 60, 85-90 ft-lbs. No backing off, just do them in sequence.

Answer 3 - If your talking about the head gaskets than yes, the head to intake gaskets are not the same between the two generations.

Answer 4 - As long as you follow the instructions on the can and put it together right before you torque it than nothing will go wrong.


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Re: What would you do....

Studs are reusable. If they weren't why even bother with them. You replace the nuts when you use studs.

All V6 head head gaskets will fit any year between 94-2004 but pre 98 gaskets suck the best to use are 99+ gaskets or SuperCoupe Gaskets. I have used both and 99+ are by far the best. You cannot use pre 99 intake gaskets on 99+ They are completely different.

If an area requires Sealant like around the lower intake or water pump sealant will not be a problem when you torque
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