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Old 03-06-2006, 07:39 PM   #1
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V6 VS GT

i have a 2004 mustang V6 automatic with K&N cai, duals, 3.73 gears and a xcalibrator tunnner and i want to know if my car will be able to keep up with a 99+ GT
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Re: V6 VS GT

I think that is what 04Stang has on his basically. I would ask him, he would know.
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Nope,

You need to get into the engine to do that.
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Re: V6 VS GT

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i have a 2004 mustang V6 automatic with K&N cai, duals, 3.73 gears and a xcalibrator tunnner and i want to know if my car will be able to keep up with a 99+ GT
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i have a mac cai, flowmaster on stock y (single exhaust), custom tune (x-cal2), and a 25% reduction pulley.......i can walk stock 5.0s, auto and manual, i can walk auto 4.6s pre-99s, and can hold off pre-99 5-speed GTs till about 80, then start to SLOWLY pull on me, like maybe a car to 1 1/2 cars from 80-105. i have stuck door to door with a couple 99+ auto GTs, but i have the same results as the pre-99 sticks, i can hold them off or stick with them till 80, and then after that, i dont have enough car to stay with them. ~80 is when i shift into 3rd, so thats why i cant stay up with them that high, but they dont pull all that hard......well, the 99+ put about 3 from 80-105. but if you have t-loc or some sort of traction system and run one from a dig, you will give him a hell of a run, just expect to start losin ground when you hit third gear.
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Re: V6 VS GT

99+ GTs run 14.2 stock~ give or take a couple tenths (manual mustang of course)

2004 mustang V6 automatic Mustang runs 16.0 give or take a couple

With your mods you should be~~~~ half a second~ quicker~
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See, kyle..with my mods I pull 3rd gear perfect with a gt, it seems to be the only gear I can hang with an auto 99+ gt, and it's dead even from there.
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Re: V6 VS GT

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i have a mac cai, flowmaster on stock y (single exhaust), custom tune (x-cal2), and a 25% reduction pulley.......i can walk stock 5.0s, auto and manual, i can walk auto 4.6s pre-99s, and can hold off pre-99 5-speed GTs till about 80, then start to SLOWLY pull on me, like maybe a car to 1 1/2 cars from 80-105. i have stuck door to door with a couple 99+ auto GTs, but i have the same results as the pre-99 sticks, i can hold them off or stick with them till 80, and then after that, i dont have enough car to stay with them. ~80 is when i shift into 3rd, so thats why i cant stay up with them that high, but they dont pull all that hard......well, the 99+ put about 3 from 80-105. but if you have t-loc or some sort of traction system and run one from a dig, you will give him a hell of a run, just expect to start losin ground when you hit third gear.
Before I say anything let me state I 100% believe everything youve said and all the races you have ran. They are street races though.

Your car stock 16.0 +/- .2 tenths with your mods - .3/.4 tenths~ hell lets round up .5/.7 tenths faster (15.3s)

That puts you only 15.3 - 14.2 = 1.1 to .8 seconds slower than a GT which is pretty noticable (manual of course autos suck) at the track, dont think bolt ons will get you there, but its very do able with the right setup.
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See, kyle..with my mods I pull 3rd gear perfect with a gt, it seems to be the only gear I can hang with an auto 99+ gt, and it's dead even from there.
what are your mods? lol i would really love to know............b/c, like, slvr2000stang said, you arent gonna run with one unless you go into the engine, hell, just a cam and you will...........maybe your suspension puts less drag on your car, enabling you to hang at higher speeds to make up for the lack of hp, but, with matching trannies, a bolton 6 just doesnt have enough ooomph up top to hang with a GT.......i know you told me your tuner has shifts pts at like 6200 or something, and maybe if you run from a 60 roll, catch 2nd, spin that out to 6200, shift into third and still be tached high enough to make enough power to run with them. b/c that gap between 2-3 puts our third gear too low in the powerband to make enough to hang.......it puts me around 3600 after the shift, if it put me at 4k, then i could hang, b/c i think then i would make enough power.


sorry dude, not tryin to be a dick or anything, i just find it really hard to believe that your car, that has pretty much the same things as me (few basic boltons) plus suspension is hanging up top with GTs.......i would really like to see a video of that.

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Before I say anything let me state I 100% believe everything youve said and all the races you have ran. They are street races though.

Your car stock 16.0 +/- .2 tenths with your mods - .3/.4 tenths~ hell lets round up .5/.7 tenths faster (15.3s)

That puts you only 15.3 - 14.2 = 1.1 to .8 seconds slower than a GT which is pretty noticable (manual of course autos suck) at the track, dont think bolt ons will get you there, but its very do able with the right setup.

well youre comparing me to a stock 5-speed, a car that i never compared myself too, i wont compare my car to one of those ......i'd get smushed........now an auto GT on the other hand....................
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Re: V6 VS GT

so i have a chance of keeping up with a 99+ GT automatic
right????
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Re: V6 VS GT

Kyle, I dunno how it works either, but I happened across a 99+ gt auto on the highway. We were both doing about 80 when we hit it and I stayed right with him till 4th. I dunno if he was anemic or if I got a stiff rear wind or something, but like brandon said, it was on the street so there's no telling what all factors went into it.
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so i have a chance of keeping up with a 99+ GT automatic
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just run him from a dig and get a good launch and you should stick with him for the most part till you hit third.


here is what a "stock" (according to him) 02 GT auto does against me........i never really posted the vid b/c its crappy quality, short, and no sound, but you can still see the tailights........as soon as i cut the camera on, we punched it and shut down about about 105-110 (he said we ran to about 125, but i'm not believing that, his speedo was off if he thinks that )
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Re: V6 VS GT

he auto is a good bit faster still, nearly a second faster. On the street ANYTHING can happen as its totaly unrealistic as to which car is faster nearly all of the time, its a street race... heck even tracks are not 100% accurate... so you simply do not know until you go run one.
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Re: V6 VS GT

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i have a 2004 mustang V6 automatic with K&N cai, duals, 3.73 gears and a xcalibrator tunnner and i want to know if my car will be able to keep up with a 99+ GT
thank you
You could probably do it with a cam and intake porting. Heads would help too.
I can help with combo/cam specs, I'm getting great feedback on some of my
latest cams, my old 207/215 cam was a good one, for the day, but now I
have a 207 replacement cam that impressed the heck outta the buyer! Alas,
he did not get dyno data, he's got an SC now but maybe he got an old cam
baseline and we'll have something to compare to once he gets his retune on
the dyno. Something like a 210 to 2-teens duration (.050") is what you want.
Kirk has the 4.10's and loves them! But staying with a smaller cam will make
the 3.73's really show their worth.
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Re: V6 VS GT

99 stock GT auto puts down around 216 RWHP
99-04 stock V6 manual puts down 165-175 RWHP

On a track the GT will roll on a V6. On the street to many varibles enter to make the comparison unless on a wide open interstate to outright claim you slam GT's
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Re: V6 VS GT

How many stock GT's are there though who will actually race?
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How many stock GT's are there though who will actually race?
98% of all Mustang owners never race. I believe only 5% of the buying public actually mod cars in any way shape or form. That might go to 10% for camaro, Mustang and Corvette owner.


So you running up on a stock GT on the street is quite high but at the track it is quite low.
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