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Old 04-07-2010, 10:22 PM   #1
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so i want to get some long tube headers for my v6 but i dont know what to get. what are the best ones and what else would i need? i already have a dual exhaust so would i only need the headers? and could i just throw them on there without any modifications?
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MAC lt's are pretty beast. I have them. Make sure you get the ceramic ones or it'd be worthless to spend the 300 to get'em.
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I was looking at your mod list and seeing that you are lowered, I would advise not doing LT headers unless you want to keep replacing them. You are going to scrap a lot unless you are really careful. LT's go about 1/2 an inch lower than your cats, this may not seem a lot but it is considering that is a 1/3 of what most people lower in the front(1.5"). plus you dont really benefit that much HP/TQ with how much you invest, and the exhaust sound is not changed much. I would just suggest another mod so you are not bummed 3 months down the road when those nice LT's are all dented and banged up from scrapping.
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so should i get shortys? or is there any way i could make it so the LTs dont have anything happen to them? and whats the difference between the ceramic and not ceramic?
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You can't get around the longtubes hanging down underneath, it's just the way the v6's are made. Ceramic coated headers last a little longer than regular stainless in that they don't rust as easy and they can take the higher temperatures better.
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I was looking at your mod list and seeing that you are lowered, I would advise not doing LT headers unless you want to keep replacing them. You are going to scrap a lot unless you are really careful. LT's go about 1/2 an inch lower than your cats, this may not seem a lot but it is considering that is a 1/3 of what most people lower in the front(1.5"). plus you dont really benefit that much HP/TQ with how much you invest, and the exhaust sound is not changed much. I would just suggest another mod so you are not bummed 3 months down the road when those nice LT's are all dented and banged up from scrapping.
Its nowhere near as bad as you make it seem. My long tubes came off my car after two and a half years and while they had a few scratches they were in great shape. One of my close friends used to own a 98 z28 with the 1gen slp headers and his car was on coil overs dropped where we couldn't slide a soda can under his car and his headers survived. Its not a big deal having long tubes unless you drive like an idiot 90% of the time your in the car, exhaust note changes a considerable amount, and in 3 months time they will still be fine.
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Re: long tube headers

alright so i should go with long tube headers? where should i get them from? and what else do i have to get with them? an h pipe?
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alright so i should go with long tube headers? where should i get them from? and what else do i have to get with them? an h pipe?
You can go with mac or pace setter, the long tube h pipe seems to be a bit hard to find, any decent exhaust shop can fabricate you something.
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i want to be able to find something that i can do everything myself. all the exhaust shops around me are way too expensive. so it would be best to find something i can do.
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figures that every set that i find online are ones that they dont have for my year of the car. a 98 mustang v6. i cant find any online for my car. so if anyone can help me out that would be great because i really want some. if i cant find any then i will probably just get shortys. so someone help me.
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I am not exaggerating nor driving like a teenager. I am talking from experience I have the sportline springs which would put my cats where his LT's would be and my cats are busted and dented. I have popped my header off right before the cat also just from pulling into a steep wal-mart parking lot entrance. And no i was not driving ridiculous I was creeping over every speed bump and entrance.
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so i should just get the shorty headers? what are the best kind to get? and how much of a power difference would i be losing since i would be going with the shortys over the long tubes?
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Not really that much power difference, just sound difference. BBK has a good set of shorties, but make sure to get ceramic.
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so i should just get the shorty headers? what are the best kind to get? and how much of a power difference would i be losing since i would be going with the shortys over the long tubes?
Its your car so you do what you feel is comfortable for your style of driving and what you want for your car. I am just giving friendly advice as to what might happen and that is what these forums are for. Idk man if you think you can drive careful and watch out for stuff then get them but they will get scraped and they will get damaged that is a given.
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I've got coil overs and my car has been on the ground and I've never had a problem with denting or destroying my long tubes. And there are SEVERAL HUNDRED mustang owners out who do the same thing. I know of lowered GT's that run under-k turbo setups and don't have problems.

Shorties are a waste of money, so if you go that route just keep your stock headers.
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yeah shorties are a waste, only get at most 1-2 rwhp so not worth the 300 to get them.
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I say if you scrape your LTs that will be the least of your problems. Because your car would be hung up (as least with mine)
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alright so then im gonna find some long tubes. but im still having troubles finding some for my 98. it seems like no where has them for a 98. every year except it. and its really frustrating. so if anyone can find some for a 98 with a h pipe set. that would be great.
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That's odd that the companies don't include 98. I looked on MAC's site and they have the longtubes for 94-97. I would call and ask if the 94-97 long tubes will fit the 98's. The nice thing about MAC is that they offer the long tubes and fitting h-pipe.

They will deepen the tone of the exhaust and add a couple hp's.
As said, shorties aren't worth the cost, might as well keep the stockers.
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i will give them a call and find out if they have them. cause if they dont then i dont know what im supposed to do because i want to have headers. i want my car to sound better.
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I would def. call them. Of course, I don't see what the big huge difference is between 99-00 and 01-04 when it comes to headers.
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I would def. call them. Of course, I don't see what the big huge difference is between 99-00 and 01-04 when it comes to headers.
99-2k Air injection bungs. 01-04 No Air injection bungs.
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well mines a 98 so i dont have to worry about that stuff being different. unless the 99 is different from the 98 which im guessing its the same. along with a 97. so then any headers from mac i would think should work. but ill call just to make sure.
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so basically if you want to put longtubes on your car you better forget about lowering it at all right?
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If you own a 98 buy the 99+ long tubes

If you want to lower your car with long tubes, go right ahead.
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If 98 doesnt have air injection then i would suggest getting 01-04 LTs since 99-00 have are the same as 01-04 but have bungs added for
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On lowering: my LTs sit no lower than the stock cats did, i have scaped the cats a few times on one of the parking lot enterences where i work but ive also scraped the subframe on it too. Maybe older MAC LTs hung lower but the ones i put on this week are no lower than the cats.
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well you just made my decission easier...i come from a mini truck background, im used to pounding the pavement so i know what the feeling is like! lol but in this case it can be costly but i know how to watch for those nasty parts in the road!
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so i should just get the 99+ long tubes and then the 99+ off road h pipe from mac and they should work? but even if the headers are lower im gonnabe careful. i already have to be careful with the lowering kit so its not much harder to be a little more careful
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Yep, those will work. Do check to see if you have air injection though, because if you don't, you don't need the 99-00.
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how do i check that?
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youll have a smog pump behind the front bumper with a hose coming to something that looks alot like your EGR valve then it spits into two metal tubes going to the front of both manifolds. ill post a picture later if you like.
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yea that picture would be helpful. thanks
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i emailed mac and they told me mac and any other exhaust company dont make the long tubes for my car.
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Wow, that's ****ty. If I'm not mistaken, Zebs has an engine you could probably snatch off of him if you really want LT's that bad.
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