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Old 05-01-2010, 10:26 PM   #1
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LOWERING SPRINGS

I WANNA LOWER MY MUSTANG - LOOKS BETTER AND IT HELPS WITH HANDLING AS WELL... I WAS THINKING OF THIS

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I DONT WANT IT TO BE WAAAY TOO LOW EITHER - AND BY THAT I MEAN HITTING THE BOTTOM ON MY CAR ON SPEED BUMPS AND WHAT NOT...

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I WANNA LOWER MY MUSTANG - LOOKS BETTER AND IT HELPS WITH HANDLING AS WELL... I WAS THINKING OF THIS

H&R Super Sport Springs (96-04 GT/V6) at AmericanMuscle.com - Free Shipping!

I DONT WANT IT TO BE WAAAY TOO LOW EITHER - AND BY THAT I MEAN HITTING THE BOTTOM ON MY CAR ON SPEED BUMPS AND WHAT NOT...

THANKS FOR YOUR HELP!
Id personally go with the eibach pro-kit but those are good springs as well. You will need to be careful no matter what springs you choose. and make sure you get the right alignment after they are installed.
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THE H&R AND THE EIBACH ARE THE SAME EXACT PRICE...

H&R:
Lowers Front: 1.75"
Lowers Rear: 1.6"

EIBACH:
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Lowers Front: 1.5”
Lowers Rear: 1.5”
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THE H&R AND THE EIBACH ARE THE SAME EXACT PRICE...

H&R:
Lowers Front: 1.75"
Lowers Rear: 1.6"

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Fits 1994-2004 V6 Mustangs (excluding Convertibles)
Lowers Front: 1.5”
Lowers Rear: 1.5”
Yea I realize that. To me, eibach seems like better quality and I dont like the raked look. The drop from the eibachs is more than enough for me.
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I didnt mean to call you dumb by posting the drops on there... It was for comparison only.

Do you have the eibach on your stang? looks pretty nice on the pic...
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I didnt mean to call you dumb by posting the drops on there... It was for comparison only.

Do you have the eibach on your stang? looks pretty nice on the pic...
No, I have stock springs on mine. I just took off the isos to drop it a tad. I have longtubes so I am very hesitant to drop it any more as I already scrape in some places, even when being very careful. Im gonna wait until I need new shocks and struts and might put the bullitt suspension kit on.

There are a couple of people around my area that have the eibach kit on there v6 and I think that is the perfect drop. Its just my opinion though.
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The drop on yours looks good... Well atleast on mine there seems to be a lot of space between the car and tire
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The drop on yours looks good... Well atleast on mine there seems to be a lot of space between the car and tire
Yea I did notice a little difference, especially in the front. Id like another .5 in in the front and 1 in in the back though. Have you decided if your gonna keep all the isos?
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Dont want to sound dumb... But dont know what the isos is...
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Re: LOWERING SPRINGS

Also keep in mind your spring rates between the 2 you are comparing:

H&R
Front: 700-760 lb/in.
Rear: 275-300 lb/in.

Eibach - v6
Front: 396-627 lb/in.
Rear: 143-296 lb/in

We have used both Eibach and H&R. Both are good companies and I would not be afraid to use either brand. The Eibach tend to have a milder drop and spring rate than the H&R. I might have a little concern that the high spring rate of the H&R would overpower your stock shocks/struts.

Also, with any lowering spring exceeding 1" in drop, you may need CC plates or bolts to help bring the car back into alignment.
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Dont want to sound dumb... But dont know what the isos is...
Basically little rubbers on the top and bottom of each spring to reduce friction and that aweful squeking noise. They add like .5 in or so to each spring. They wear over time, so you should look into new ones if you are doing new springs. Also look over his post as the h&r are gonna probably put more stress on the rest of your suspension components than the eibachs.
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Eibach's pro kit will give you about 1.5" all around. Some people have said that the drop didn't give them 1.5", but I think they didn't wait until the springs settled.

The H&R's will drop you a little more than the pro kit and are more performance oriented. They will be stiffer making the ride a little more edgy, but the extra drop is worth it.

If you are concerned about scraping, I'd go with the pro kit and leave the iso's in. You'll still get a noticeable drop compared to stock...your fender gap is probably near 4" right now. The pro kit will cut that damn near in half.

But if you want the most drop with good springs, get the H&R's. I'd still leave the iso's in with those though. (Don't bother with those ebay springs claiming a 3" drop, they are garbage)

Brian (Jimmy_Beaner) has the pro kit on his GT...I think it sits perfect.





Here's a Mach 1 with the H&R's.



As said the spring rates are important...if you keep your stock shocks/struts you don't want the rate to vary too much, or else you'll wear your shocks/struts out real quick. You will want cast and camber plates if you do a drop 1.5" or more, or else you'll wear your tires unevenly. Maximum Motorsports CC plates are the best...heard nothing but great things about them.

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After wheels, a drop is the next best thing appearance wise...getting rid of that stock 4x4 look really changes the looks of your mustang. Either way you go you'll get a noticeable drop. You may want to consider shocks/struts as well since you'll be tearing that area apart, plus they'll be rated to handle the more aggressive springs. Better to replace everything at the same time to prevent problems farther down the road.

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Re: LOWERING SPRINGS

YEA I THINK I WILL GO WITH THE EIBACH... I WAS GONNA GET THEM FROM AMERICANMUSCLE BUT THEY DONT HAVE SHOCKS/STRUTS, ATLEAST I DIDNT SEE IT...

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Re: LOWERING SPRINGS

Thanks bro!

I feel kinda dumb asking questions sometimes, about parts and components... But i guess its the only way to go! Did you lower your stang? Should i replace front and back?

So tokico is good? What would you recommend though?
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Thanks bro!

I feel kinda dumb asking questions sometimes, about parts and components... But i guess its the only way to go! Did you lower your stang? Should i replace front and back?

So tokico is good? What would you recommend though?
No don't feel that way at all man...better to ask questions and learn about the stuff first.

Do replace all 4 springs, 2 struts (front) shocks (rear) at the same time...then everything will wear the same, and prevent say your rear tires from wearing out before your fronts.

I haven't lowered mine yet...I'm waiting till I can do everything at once - springs, cc plates, shocks/struts, all of it.

Tokico and Bilsteins are good brands of shocks/struts. They are more aggressive than stock and can handle the change in spring rate when using eibachs or h&r's.

If you only want a mild drop (1") you could get a bullitt suspension kit. It's about $500, includes ford racing C springs, tokico shocks/struts and front/rear swaybars. Not a bad kit for the price...only negative is that the springs don't lower the car much. You could always sell the springs and get the eibachs.
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Eibachs are 1.5... Just enough i dont want it to be too low! =s then ill be hitting the bottom on every speedbump!
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Yah you'll be fine with the pro kit. Do you have a chin spoiler? If so, just be careful entering and exiting steeper driveways and entrances to businesses.
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