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Old 04-18-2007, 01:35 PM   #1
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T-Lok and rear end gears

This is gonna be the first mod aside from exhaust that i'm gonna do, and i need a good link to a place someone KNOWS is good to buy a traction lock and a 4.10 gear (automatic). and how much should i expect for an install?

also, when i'm looking for 3.9 parts, might i just as well look for 3.8 parts? are they practically the same?
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Re: T-Lok and rear end gears

go ford racing for gears and tlok dont buy richmond or any of that crap, just oem ford.

for the install it will range any where from 200-400~ and pay more to get the job done better as its a nightmare when the rear end gets messed up and its not hard to screw up a gear install.
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Re: T-Lok and rear end gears

t-lok and gear look good? so i'm looking at probably $700 for both bought and installed?
and on the T-Lok, it says "REQUIRES 4 OZ. OF FRICTION MODIFIER ON INITIAL FILL. 28 SPLINE 7.5" FOR V6 MUSTANG. " what does that mean? and how do i get the 4 oz. friction modifier?

and is my mustang by stock default a 7.5"?
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Re: T-Lok and rear end gears

yes you have a 7.5" rear. Friction modifier can be found at any parts store.

Just curious, why did you decide to go with the 4.10 gears?
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Re: T-Lok and rear end gears

Your also gonna need a SCT chip or recalibrator to correct the speedo
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Re: T-Lok and rear end gears

says 4.10 for automatic in When Modding a Car from the Start.
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Re: T-Lok and rear end gears

yea the auto tranny has worse gearing when compared to the manual so 4.10 help even it back out and they need all the help they can get.

friction modifier is easy to get and cheap
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Re: T-Lok and rear end gears

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says 4.10 for automatic in When Modding a Car from the Start.
Yea I knew that was the reason but I wanted to ask anyways. Just want you to be sure of everything that you're getting in to.
I don't know if your car is a dd or not but your gas mileage may go down with highway driving.
Your RPM's will be about 500 more then if you had your stock 3.27.

You may already know this but I just wanted to make sure because when I was new at all this I just went ahead with what everyone else said and took their word for it, which i shouldnt of done.
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Re: T-Lok and rear end gears

and i dont have enough money to get the tlok, gears, and a speedo recalibrater. would i need that just cause of the gear? and how much speed difference are we talking from the reg speedo?
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Re: T-Lok and rear end gears

You will also see a slight increase in mpg in the city because you will be in your power band sooner for cruising.

If you are worried about gas mileage you really don't want to mod your car. But..actually...I get 28-30 on the highway in my car how it is right now.
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Re: T-Lok and rear end gears

I just didn't want him to get everything installed and spending all his money, then all of a sudden wonder why the hell his RPM's are at 2600 cruising down the freeway.
I think some people don't fully understand the side affects of everything that they want to do to their cars performance.
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Re: T-Lok and rear end gears

i appreciate that.
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Re: T-Lok and rear end gears

It's cool.

If you are looking for a cost efficient seat of the pants improvement, you can't beat gears.

As far as your speed difference, your rear tires will be turning over 4.10 times for every one revolution of your driveshaft. Factory, your tires are turning over 3.27 times for every one revolution of your driveshaft. This will cause your speedometer to read a slower speed than you are actually going. As far as an exact speed, I can't tell you an exact measurement.
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Re: T-Lok and rear end gears

like enough to get me a speeding ticket?
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Re: T-Lok and rear end gears

It would probably read 6-7 mph slower if you were doing highway speeds. If you can't afford a chip or tuner right now and want to get the gears, get them installed and have a friend follow you to see how much your speedometer is off. Once you figure this out you can learn how fast you need to be reading to do the speed limit and such.
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Re: T-Lok and rear end gears

6-7 isnt really that bad, thought you mean maybe like 15.
so anyways.
t-lok and 4.10 gear, + 4 oz friction modifier + installation = $700?
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Re: T-Lok and rear end gears

Depends on where you get it installed.

I'd shop around to see who had the best price on install with a warranty.
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Re: T-Lok and rear end gears

thought you meant like 15... 7 isnt really that bad.
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tlok+4.10+4oz friction whatever+instal = $700-800?
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Re: T-Lok and rear end gears

friction modifier?
thought it was an install piece lol... so i can probably self apply that then?

also, another question. When looking for stuff, i have a 3.9, can i look for 3.8 stuff cause 3.9 is sometimes not even an option.
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Re: T-Lok and rear end gears

Yes, you shouldn't run into an problems between the 3.9 and the 3.8.
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Re: T-Lok and rear end gears

did i link the right friction modifier stuff? its just lube not a part?
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Yes, you shouldn't run into an problems between the 3.9 and the 3.8.
even though it does have a windstar part on it. sorry, couldn't resist.
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Re: T-Lok and rear end gears

we left that in the other forum you sonofa*****!!!!!!!
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we left that in the other forum you sonofa*****!!!!!!!
2: now now. temper temper. no need for name calling. learn to take a joke.
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we left that in the other thread you sonofa*****!!!!
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Re: T-Lok and rear end gears

but is the 4oz friction modifier they talk about on the tlok page just a 4oz bottle of lube basically?
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but is the 4oz friction modifier they talk about on the tlok page just a 4oz bottle of lube basically?
Yes its for the clutches in the t-lok
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sorry bout the double posts... and i was jk about the sob comment. much love
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thx rydog for finally answering the question = )
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sorry bout the double posts... and i was jk about the sob comment. much love
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Re: T-Lok and rear end gears

Yeh sorry, I headed outside for a few to get my new exhaust out of the truck.
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Re: T-Lok and rear end gears

if someone he knows has the calibration tool can't he just borrow it and upgrade his computer to read the right speed?
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Yeh sorry, I headed outside for a few to get my new exhaust out of the truck.
Are you changing your exhaust again...lol
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if someone he knows has the calibration tool can't he just borrow it and upgrade his computer to read the right speed?
No, because it won't touch your tune without locking itself to your car. It won't lock to a car if it is already locked in to another. The only way to unlock it is to restore your tune to stock...so, the only way he could give it back is to undo the changes he would make.
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Re: T-Lok and rear end gears

get it calibrated else you will be commiting odometer fraud.
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