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Old 06-01-2007, 03:33 AM   #1
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Question Weight of Our Stangs??

Anyone happen to know the weight, actual RWHP, HP N TQ at crank of a stock 1999 Convertible V6 Stang?? The reason im asking is cause a guy w/ a 02 GT Coupe all stock w/ auto tranny wants to race me at the track after i get my nitrous kit all finished, he says he can be beat w/ N2o. I'll be running a .040 jet which is around a 72 hp jet w/ Actual HP to wheels est of 61.2 hp. Who do think will win??(Take Votes on who gonna win)

Also i would like to know what the weight of our guys stangs are as well, just figure it would be some good info to know???
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Re: Weight of Our Stangs??

Weight = 3150~ for hardtop with manual tranny (add 75-100 for auto tranny and 125-150 for convertible)

Actual RWHP 135-140 for auto 145-155 for manual

Actual RWTQ 165-175 for auto 175-185 for manual

Stock Crank hp/tq 190/225 peak at 5250rpm

You are running mid 16s in the quarter mile stock with auto and high 15s to mid 15s with a manual.

Wtih your mods and 75 shot expect about a second off your times, basically he will still be faster than you will be even if he is stock (14.0-14.2 quarter mile time on average) if his car is a manual and he is an average driver.
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Cool thank you SpectorV thats exactly the info i was lookin for. So the GT i'm gonna race is a Auto and he used to have a 98 v6 Auto and i raced him with that car and i dont think he knows how to race cause i beat him by 4 car lenghts in about a 1/4 mile. So i am hoping he dont know how to race that GT and maybe i'll have a chance to win. But still like you said my car weights about 150 lbs more then his since he has a Auto. I told my brother you better ride with him cause he'll add about 200 more pounds to his car
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bone stock i ran 15.8 (2.2 60') and with bolt ons and a tune i ran 15.0 (2.2 60'....cant launch) and put down 19- rwhp and 22- rwtq through an auto, and thats w/ letting the motor warm all the way up.....the dyno sheet is at the speed shop in a file. i need to get it but i think i'll go back b/c i really wanna break 200rwhp where i am at now.


i cant wait to throw 4.10s in this *****


btw, the (-) represents a number that i cant recall
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bone stock i ran 15.8 (2.2 60') and with bolt ons and a tune i ran 15.0 (2.2 60'....cant launch) and put down 19- rwhp and 22- rwtq through an auto, and thats w/ letting the motor warm all the way up.....the dyno sheet is at the speed shop in a file. i need to get it but i think i'll go back b/c i really wanna break 200rwhp where i am at now.


i cant wait to throw 4.10s in this *****
Do you got a Conv or coupe?? So the factory says its putting out 190 hp?? Is that at the crank or?? Thats a lot of power lost from 190 to 140 at the wheels, now does that same theory apple to the 02 GT's as well, not sure what the hp is on one but just say for example its puttin out 260 so that means its only getting about 240 ti the wheels??

Sorry for all the stupid questions i'll learn about all this stuff eventually.
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Do you got a Conv or coupe?? So the factory says its putting out 190 hp?? Is that at the crank or?? Thats a lot of power lost from 190 to 140 at the wheels, now does that same theory apple to the 02 GT's as well, not sure what the hp is on one but just say for example its puttin out 260 so that means its only getting about 240 ti the wheels??

Sorry for all the stupid questions i'll learn about all this stuff eventually.

i have a auto coupe.


190 is fords stock crank hp...........yes, the same theory applies so long as the v6 and v8 have the same trannies. and an stock auto gt 99-04 is puttin down like 220-230rwhp
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So since he got around 220 to the ground and i got about 140 w/ a 80 ish or so shot of nitrous, will make the race a close one right??
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Re: Weight of Our Stangs??

O i also forgot to mention i got a SCT Live wire custom tuner on the way as well so that should help me out too right??
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Re: Weight of Our Stangs??

i think you have more than 140 to the ground.....i would say 160, then with the spray it would make for a good race
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Re: Weight of Our Stangs??

okay i just found out what my car weights exactly: Race weight (with driver & 1/4 tank of gas)== 3520 lbs
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Do you got a Conv or coupe?? So the factory says its putting out 190 hp?? Is that at the crank or?? Thats a lot of power lost from 190 to 140 at the wheels, now does that same theory apple to the 02 GT's as well, not sure what the hp is on one but just say for example its puttin out 260 so that means its only getting about 240 ti the wheels??

Sorry for all the stupid questions i'll learn about all this stuff eventually.
Forget the exact number but you lose about 18% thru the drive train for a 5 speed ,higher lose for a auto

I'm sure someone will correct me if I got the % wrong
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So since he got around 220 to the ground and i got about 140 w/ a 80 ish or so shot of nitrous, will make the race a close one right??
thats not exactly how it works, plus he has much more tq than you (302@4k~)

He will be VERY lucky to put over 140 to the wheels... no where near 160 with only a couple mods.
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So you mean to tell me a conv auto V6 comes from the factory with less then 140 hp to the wheels WOW that is just stupid i guess its just time to get rid of this six and get a car that has more power such as a GT or maybe a Cobra. So basicly w/o a turbo or supercharger i will be equal in HP to HONDA ACCORD 4 door car .

Also i figured in the weight of my Auto tranny
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thats not exactly how it works, plus he has much more tq than you (302@4k~)

He will be VERY lucky to put over 140 to the wheels... no where near 160 with only a couple mods.


i'm just goin by MY numbers...........with just a cai, udp, and exhaust i made 183rwhp and 224rwtq...............stock tune. i had the dyno sheets posted on here a long time ago with those numbers
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thats not exactly how it works, plus he has much more tq than you (302@4k~)

He will be VERY lucky to put over 140 to the wheels... no where near 160 with only a couple mods.
So Kyle, SpectorV was wrong about being lucky to have 140 hp to the wheels w/ just a few mods???
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So Kyle, SpectorV was wrong about being lucky to have 140 hp to the wheels w/ just a few mods???
not sayin he's wrong..............all cars are gonna be a little different
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The manual transmission takes right at 17.5 percent of the power from the engine, so on a manual expect 156rwhp stock and 180rwtq

for an auto its 22%~ its actually 148 so I did my math wrong

You just need to get a dyno pull done to really see, you cant just go by numbers... and even dynos are not 100% accurate all the time.
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You just need to get a dyno pull done to really see,

thats where i got my numbers from..........it was a dynojet, i havent ran it on a mustang dyno yet.........i really dont want to, to be honest
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Race him and find out? why would you wanna know your gonna win or lose?
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thats where i got my numbers from..........it was a dynojet, i havent ran it on a mustang dyno yet.........i really dont want to, to be honest
I've never understood statements like this. I wouldn't give two ****s if my car dyno'd 50 hp at the wheels. Then when someone asks, I'll give them the dyno sheet, they laugh, then I put lengths on them, then I laugh. Dyno numbers are nothing as far as racing goes, unless you are roll racer since that is usually a hp race. It is a tuning apparatus, PERIOD. I, personally, go by timeslips. ****, there was a guy at the local speed shop in tupelo who put upper 300's at the wheels, but it'll run mid to high 11's in the quarter all day. To each his/her own though.
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I've never understood statements like this.

ok, then let me explain it again...........he wanted to know the weight and hp of a v6 mustang........i told him my numbers based on my dynos and if you look towards the beginning of the thread i also mentioned 1/4 mile times. clear now?
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[Idiot]The 03 cobra is very heavy at 3600lbs. This was fixed by Ford as they installed stiffer springs to lift the weight up off of the ground to lighten the load.[/Idiot]
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ok, then let me explain it again...........he wanted to know the weight and hp of a v6 mustang........i told him my numbers based on my dynos and if you look towards the beginning of the thread i also mentioned 1/4 mile times. clear now?

Umm... No, I was questioning this comment. This has nothing to do with the threadstarters questions/comments.


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i havent ran it on a mustang dyno yet.........i really dont want to, to be honest
I was saying I don't know why it matters when everyone knows that mustang dynos read lower numbers due to more real world variants that the dyno factors in. Again I say, I wouldn't care if my car put 50 at the wheels, I'd be more concerned if it gained/lost hp from mods over the baseline, and if the car was tuned right.
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[Idiot]The 03 cobra is very heavy at 3600lbs. This was fixed by Ford as they installed stiffer springs to lift the weight up off of the ground to lighten the load.[/Idiot]
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