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Old 10-17-2010, 10:16 PM   #1
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What is better a Tuner or a Chip. I don't want to buy a Tuner because they are over $250, Ive seen chips at about 69 bucks (GForce). But I dont wanna buy a chip that does nothing.
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Re: Chips and Tuners

A chip is a good option if you don't plan on making any further changes to your car.

A tuner is a better option if you plan on doing anything else to your car in the future.

I had a chip for my last car, it was replaced with a tuner within a year because I decided to make further modifications.
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Was it any good did you see any noticable change? do you think the brand has a big effect?
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DON'T waste your money on the gforce, all it is, is a resistor in a shiny box you can do the same thing with 25-75 cents at your local radio shack. Use a 1.5K ohm resistor or a 2.2k ohm in between your IAT wires. In your case with a 99 and newer your IAT is built into your MAF but you still have one, you have to find the color code of your wires and trace them back to the IAT.
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So does adding the resistor actually give it more power?
I believe my IAT sensor is in the outside I have an aftermarket CAI so there is a sensor that runs into the side of the MAF not sure if it's that one only sensor I see going there.
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i read in another page that they put 2 220Ohm wires together and then conected it. Is it just one for my car or 2? wat should i put the 150 or the 220?
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well 150-220 ohms won't change it. you have to get either 1.5k ohms or 2.2k ohms but you only need one also make sure they are rated at 12-50 volts so you don't burn it up. it will add some power but not much. What it does is it tells the computer that you are getting cold air into your intake and adjusts the fuel ratio for cold air. It will make your car run a little rich. But if you don't like it all you have to do is take it back off.

I had a adjustable resistor box of my Mazda b4000 with the 4.0L I could adjust it from inside the truck witch was pretty cool. Also note that colder air means more fuel and less MPG and you can also change the resistor to read hotter temps witch will give you better MPG but make you lose a little HP.
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So its one or the other huh? thanx Straublittleman ima try that out
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If it was me I would pay more money for the tuner.
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If I get a tuner I can charge ppl to tune their cars right? That will help money wise. But they're specific for 1 car or they're complicated yo use right?
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I don't own one yet but I think the sct sf3 will tune several different vehicles through ford 94-up even some diesels not sure though. I think you have to program in the Vin of the vehicle and then you can tune on it. But if you want custom tuning I think you have to prove you own the car/truck.
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Oh so its only legal to u who owns the car u will work on.
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Well if you buy it from like American Muscle you get free tunes for life, that doesn't mean free tunes for anybodies car/truck that you can get your hands on. But the tuner comes with tunes built into it that you can put on other vehicles. They say they're easy to use but like I said I don't own one, maybe someone that does will comment on this?
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But i dont get it if one good tune can improve your cars potential to the max why would there have to have different tunes. I no upgrades change cars but i would think that the tune would stay roughly the same
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My main experience is with 05+ cars, but with those tuners (SCT or Diablo) the tuner is 'married' to the car's computer. It actually downloads the stock tune and then flashes the new tune into the computer. It will not allow you to apply the same tune to multiple cars. To use the tuner on a different car, you have to restore the stock tune back into the car. This 'unlocks' the tuner for use on another car. This may not be the case on pre-05 cars (not sure)

In terms of wanting different tunes, your tune is configured to maximize the parts you have on the car. If you add (or delete) parts, you may want another tune for those parts. For example, you may have one tune that maximizes with stock exhaust, but if you add aftermarket exhaust, you might want a new one that takes advantage of free flowing exhaust. You might want one that maximizes HP or one that maximizes TQ. One tune won't cover all of the possible performance mod combinations.
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