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Old 03-03-2011, 08:25 PM   #1
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Has anyone done this job of welding these things in? Max Motorsports states a shop would take 3 hours. How have those held up and did you notice improvements?
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im getting steeda subframe conn installed ill let you know how it goes
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I have some BBK's that I need to get welded on my vert. I had them on my "85 Vert and they helped out a lot with the solid feel of the car.
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Kewl im basically upgrading my entire suspension. Tokiko 5 way adjustable shocks n struts performance lowering springs cmber plates strut tower brace steeda front and rear sway bars upper n lower rear control arms etc
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Kewl im basically upgrading my entire suspension. Tokiko 5 way adjustable shocks n struts performance lowering springs cmber plates strut tower brace steeda front and rear sway bars upper n lower rear control arms etc
Nice, what year is your car?
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Sounds nice. You should post some pics for sure.
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every fox I've owned has had them , thats one of my first mods , they make a big difference in the structural strength of your car .... the Mach has factory bolt on sub's , and they help too ,but nothing beats welded in ... try and get the ones that bolt to the seat brackets underneath and then weld them to the frame ... only takes about and hour or so with a mig / the most time is spent removing the seats and pulling up the carpets etc ... so the heat doesn't catch your rugs on fire ...
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its actually very easy to do.

You must use a drive on lift (well I wont say MUST but I HIGHLY recommend it as the gaps of the doors change when on a 4 post lift so if its done on a 4 post you must ensure the gaps do not change when lifting the car~ but use a drive on lift... keep it simple)

Then they test fit, adjust as needed. Clean the frame where welds will be and if you ordered the powdercoated subframes you must sand off the powder coat (***** to do)

then weld

CAUTION around fuel lines on pass side (just dont weld that area) no need to fully weld it just do 4-6 inch welds every 12 inches or so and that will hold em.

If bare steel coat MANY TIMES with rust proof paint.
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One of the things we notice is that install time depends a lot on the condition of the sub-frames. If they have been jacked on a lot and are dented/out of shape, it takes a lot longer to get the connectors to match up correctly. And as mentioned above, make sure you car is sitting level (as it will sit on the ground) whn you do the welding.
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That is great advice. But here's a question. What kind of shop should be doing this work. Obviously it should be a place that has a drive on lift. That limits the places, so I'm thinking either a regular mechanical repair place that has someone who can use a mig welder, a body shop where one would think they would have someone who can use a mig...or a muffler shop?

Anything I'm leaving out or not thinking about?
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That is great advice. But here's a question. What kind of shop should be doing this work. Obviously it should be a place that has a drive on lift. That limits the places, so I'm thinking either a regular mechanical repair place that has someone who can use a mig welder, a body shop where one would think they would have someone who can use a mig...or a muffler shop?

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Body shop or muffler shop.
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i had mine done at Sandys 4x4, they fitted, welded and painted them for $300 the car feels much tighter, between them and custom tune i dropped a half second off my 1/4 mile time
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I would ask your local Mustang club or SCCA club where good shops are in your area. Chances are there are people in those organizations who have had it done and can recommend good places.
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Re: Subframe Connectors

Subframes are a must have for any fox/sn95/new edge car. As recommended above, get full length with seat brackets.

Any muffler shop should be able to weld them for relatively cheap. Just ask around and find one that comes recommended. Also, make sure it's done on a drive-on lift and keep an eye on the interior...as it will catch on fire fairly quickly.
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That interior catching fire is a real problem. I'm thinking take the carpet and seats out, prepare those seat connectors underneath, put a driver's seat and passenger seat in without carpet, drive over for the welding and then when i get it back, take the seats back out and install carpeting...whew...all that to make the car as it should have been done!
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