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Old 03-03-2011, 10:04 PM   #1
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I have a cai and exhaust system what should I do next as far as upgrades?
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I have a cai and exhaust system what should I do next as far as upgrades?
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What abouta predator dioblo tuner?
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And should you get gears before a tuner?
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And should you get gears before a tuner?
Well... I wouldn't. A mustang mechanic told me the only hung gears are good for is lowering mpg.
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And should you get gears before a tuner?
It's up to you though.
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Maybe long tube headers too. For sound purposes. Not too sure if I helps hp in any way though.
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Well... I wouldn't. A mustang mechanic told me the only hung gears are good for is lowering mpg.
Whatever mechanic told you that is an idiot. Sorry for the bluntness, or if that sounded harsh, but gears will really wake a car up. The "lower" the gear ratio, the faster it will get to speed.
You might lose a couple of mpg's but you drive a Mustang, who cares.
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And should you get gears before a tuner?
If you do the gears first, your speedometer will be off, which in turn the odometer will be off. Get the tuner first bro, then whatever other mods you do to the car will work better and net you more performance because you can tune the car to the mods.
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Whatever mechanic told you that is an idiot. Sorry for the bluntness, or if that sounded harsh, but gears will really wake a car up. The "lower" the gear ratio, the faster it will get to speed.
You might lose a couple of mpg's but you drive a Mustang, who cares.
He told me the mpg loss isn't worth the minimal gain. I guess if it's only a weekend car then it's all good. I just don't have the cash to spend on more gas at the moment. Lol. Sorry. I was just saying what I was told.
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He told me the mpg loss isn't worth the minimal gain. I guess if it's only a weekend car then it's all good. I just don't have the cash to spend on more gas at the moment. Lol. Sorry. I was just saying what I was told.
When I went from a 3.08 gear to a 3.73 gear in my '84 GT, it felt like I added 50hp to the car. Gears will really wake them up. I wasn't trying to be rude or anything like that, but just do some research on gears or have some experience with them, and I bet you $100 you will call him an idiot too.
The mpg loss is not that significant.
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Why do you think Ford puts 3.73s on the GT and Cobra as a performance upgrade?
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When I went from a 3.08 gear to a 3.73 gear in my '84 GT, it felt like I added 50hp to the car. Gears will really wake them up. I wasn't trying to be rude or anything like that, but just do some research on gears or have some experience with them, and I bet you $100 you will call him an idiot too.
The mpg loss is not that significant.
K. Lol. It's all good. I'll check into it more.
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When I went from a 3.08 gear to a 3.73 gear in my '84 GT, it felt like I added 50hp to the car. Gears will really wake them up. I wasn't trying to be rude or anything like that, but just do some research on gears or have some experience with them, and I bet you $100 you will call him an idiot too.
The mpg loss is not that significant.
But I have an automatic so I need 4.10 which might be different compared to a manual
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I was wrong. Josh hasn't leaned s thing. Hey joshy. Your mechanic is an idiot and I don't suggest you let him fix a bicycle. Hey op. Gears and a tuner should be your first mod. DO NOT LISTEN TO JOSHY. Sorry bud. But you don't have a clue what your talking about. Gears are the best mod you can do. Other than forced induction.

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You need a CAI joshy.
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You need a CAI joshy.
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Whatever. I'm done with this forum. All I said was that was what I was told. It has nothing to do with me learning anything. He's a mustang mechanic and enthusiast.. Extremely intelligent. Works for Ford themselves.
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Whatever. I'm done with this forum. All I said was that was what I was told. It has nothing to do with me learning anything. He's a mustang mechanic and enthusiast.. Extremely intelligent. Works for Ford themselves.
Calm down joshy. Not worth all of that. Everybody has an opinion. A simple question is gonna get answered 20 different ways here. If you trust the guy and he's not trying to just take your money, go with what he says.
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underdrive pulley, aluminum driveshaft, rear gears/tlok unit (best upgrade you can do probably), tune, ported upper/lower intakes, cam, ported/polished heads, etc etc
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I agree with everyone else, the first thing I changed on my 05 and wife's 07 were the gears. HUGE difference! I also ordred my 2011 with 3:73s because I knew it was going to be the first mod anyways. As far as the tune, I would go with SCT over Diablo, I had both and SCT seemed to have better customer service and was preferred by most of the guys here that tune.
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Joshy I wouldn't listen to that mechanic anymore. For a mustang enthusiast and an employee for ford, he should at the very least know that gears will make a huge difference. Add tlok too and even more so.

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He told me the mpg loss isn't worth the minimal gain. I guess if it's only a weekend car then it's all good. I just don't have the cash to spend on more gas at the moment. Lol. Sorry. I was just saying what I was told.
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Whatever. I'm done with this forum. All I said was that was what I was told. It has nothing to do with me learning anything. He's a mustang mechanic and enthusiast.. Extremely intelligent. Works for Ford themselves.
They have plenty of idiots who work for Ford or any other dealer. I find that most mechanics in the dealerships have no knowledge about most of the aftermarket industry and aren't really interested in it. It drives me crazy. You would think these guys are gung ho about the type of vehicle they work for.. they aren't. Don't trust that guy as he is obviously not well versed in a performance market. The gas may change by a 1mpg interval. Minimal.

Lastly, in my 2001 going from 3.23s to 4.30s really made no significant impact on my MPG.


Everett, since you failed ... I'll post your required response for you... to the OP: Blower. End of All. Blower. You just need a ****ing Blower! (edit: NVM you made a forced induction comment)
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Joshy I wouldn't listen to that mechanic anymore. For a mustang enthusiast and an employee for ford, he should at the very least know that gears will make a huge difference. Add tlok too and even more so.

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They have plenty of idiots who work for Ford or any other dealer. I find that most mechanics in the dealerships have no knowledge about most of the aftermarket industry and aren't really interested in it. It drives me crazy. You would think these guys are gung ho about the type of vehicle they work for.. they aren't. Don't trust that guy as he is obviously not well versed in a performance market. The gas may change by a 1mpg interval. Minimal.

Lastly, in my 2001 going from 3.23s to 4.30s really made no significant impact on my MPG.

Everett, since you failed ... I'll post your required response for you... to the OP: Blower. End of All. Blower. You just need a ****ing Blower! (edit: NVM you made a forced induction comment)
He has a 2003 v8 and he modded it like crazy. The thing was insanely fast. He's 28 and owned 17 cars and modded them all. I've known him for a few years and he's a close friend of the family. I do understand he could be incorrect though. I was just letting him know what my friend said.
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I even had a thread and asked how much hp I will get with a tuner and gears and they said not much
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I even had a thread and asked how much hp I will get with a tuner and gears and they said not much
Gears wont give you any horsepower, but it will change the rate at which the car accelrates which will make not only feel faster, but it will be faster.
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When using a tuner in conjuction with the gears, you can correct the speedometer and the odometer for the gear change, because gears will throw it off.
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Gears wont give you any horsepower, but it will change the rate at which the car accelrates which will make not only feel faster, but it will be faster.
That makes since. So would he tuner just be a waste then if I have gears installed?
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That makes since. So would he tuner just be a waste then if I have gears installed?
No. You need a tuner to correct the speedometer after gears. They will both be beneilficial. The gears will he the most significant in your pants type of feel.
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No. You need a tuner to correct the speedometer after gears. They will both be beneilficial. The gears will he the most significant in your pants type of feel.
K. Worth the 150?
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You have to know what your talking about on here lol...
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You have to know what your talking about on here lol...
I do. I was told by a very reliable source. He's tried it and said it's not worth it.
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I'm going to sum this up for everyone:

Gears - great idea, probably one of the best things you can do for a v6 mustang or any mustang for that matter. Basically, get them.

The mpg's lost are worth the gain. Maybe .5-1mpg on the highway. You'll probably see a slight increase in city mpg.

Tuner - you will need the tuner to adjust the speedo after the gear change. So, if you buy gears first, don't install them until you get the tuner. If you buy the tuner first, use it then send a request for an updated tune including your gears when the time comes.
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