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Old 04-25-2011, 09:52 PM   #1
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So currently I have a set of maximum motorsports cc plates and steeda x2 balljoints and I found a set of steeda competition springs for my car from a nearby craigslist seller and got him down to 175 bucks. They have less than 10k miles on them and retail for over 300 new. If they weren't so cheap I'd just get ford c springs but since that's not the case I wanted to know if anyone has these springs and whether or not they are as good as steeda claims them to be. I only want that 1-1.5 inch drop and yes I will have the cc plates put on to adjust for the neg camber, but wanted to get more opinions on this. Anyone buy these or know someone with them on their car?
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Re: Steeds competition springs

find the spring rates and find out if they are linear or progressive rate. Thats what matters. If you cant find the rate it probably means they dont know (bad), they dont want you to know (bad) or something else (bad). Progressive ride better than linear by far.
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The gentleman who I'm purchasing these from is a Steeda dealer & has had them on other cars. He actually is one of the first attempting to build a fox bodied coyote'd 5.0L and I don't doubt his knowledge on the springs, just want to be sure. I have forwarded the question of whether or not these springs are progressive rate to him and to a another Steeda Dealer. Another issue at hand is that in the next couple years when the v6 hits the dust (at 138K miles now) It will have a new powerplant. This is the largest problem I've found with eibach due to the ridiculous amounts of spring part numbers. Ford C springs would be ok, however after reading a review on american muscle a guy with a 03 V6 convertible similar to mine only witnessed a 0.5 inch drop in the rear and maybe 1" up front. I def want a more of a 1.25/1.25-1.5/1.5 inch drop all the way around and I'm hoping these springs will do the job. I've been told competition springs are a stiffer ride, however my ride quality with the stock springs with worn isolators is probably affecting the way it rides now. Anyway more opinions, questions i should ask, concerns, sarcastic remarks, all are appreciated.
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Re: Steeds competition springs

Ohh just got the news they are Progressive Rate: 700-850lbs front and 200-250lbs rear.
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yea thats a good stiff rate, give it a try and see if you dont mind the ride, probably wont be that bad.
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Re: Steeds competition springs

Yea its very similar to the Ford C springs and since I'm getting them for the same price I figured it was a good deal. Also will I be needing a bumpsteer kit? And if so is it taboo to use Steeda X2's with MM bumpsteer? Slightly cheaper and I know MM's reputation is much better than that of Steeda. The following parts are going in my car in two weeks regardless:
1) MM caster/camber plates
2) MM full length subframe connectors
3) Steeda X2 Balljoints
4) Steeda Comp Springs
5) Not sure if required, but Bumpsteer?
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Re: Steeds competition springs

I am at the same stage as you right now and I'm terribly interested in how things play out for you. Congratulations on getting the set of Steeda springs, I think you got an extremly great deal. I read a little about them on-line and they are supposed to handle nicely. I choose a softer spring rate with "B" springs. I have the MM Caster camber plates and X2 Ball Joints also. From what I've read, its a very good idea to install the bumpsteer at the same time the ball joints are being put on. SpectorV has been helping me out with similar questions. Let us know how things go. I like the suspension parts including bumpsteer that they have for sale at Agent 47
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Re: Steeds competition springs

Thanks and yea nice link to the 47 suspension ppl, but I think I will go with the MM kit. I like there stuff a lot and have never heard of anyone having bad experiences with their tech team or parts. An additional question would be which bump steer to get? The tapered stud design (bolt on), or the bolt through design (requires drilling & is stronger than tapered)? What are you thoughts on that?
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I'm hearing a lot of bad things about the steeda ball joints now. Fortunately about a year ago I purchased a set of OEM ford balljoints. If I had the money I would upgrade to the terminator control arms, but I think I'll wait. "Steeda often neglects to inform people that installing extended ball joints alters the front suspension geometry, making it
mandatory to install a bumpsteer kit to correct the steering geometry." Quote was from Chuck at MM. So now I'm second guessing installing the steeda balljoints and thinking going with the stockers. I mean I made it 138K miles on stock ones, probably needed replacing at 100K though. Springs, cc plates, and subframe connectors are for sure, but now i'm unsure of which ball joints.
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Ok well just picked up the springs and took some pics they look really good, however I may want to at least get new rear isolators as they look like their in not so good shape. But got an even better deal and only paid $150. Interesting I took some measurements and the rear is the same (28 inches from ground/center of tire/rim to the bottom of rear quarter panel), however the front drivers side was 28.25" and the passenger was 28.5". Not sure if this is due to my ball joints being trashed (perhaps the passenger side is worse) off. Anyways pics are below. Again this is without the springs installed.
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Re: Steeds competition springs

Congratulations! The Steeda X2 ball joints are just fine. They also help our V6's get that extra 1/2" drop that we normally cant do because the V6 engine is 100lbs or so lighter. Listen:~ X2 ball joints are on hundreds, thousands, hundred thousands of Mustangs just like ours with great results. It is not an easy job getting the old ones out and pressing on the new ones in your own garage. So, I really feel deeply that when it comes to these ball joints and even clutch kits that How it was installed and by whom, makes all the difference in how it performs. Many variables too~ shocks/struts-new used? ball joints, caster camber plates, wheel size, bumpsteer problems driving off the lot. many things can confuse issues with people saying- They Suck!! or the guy standing next to him saying- Much better ride, love the 1/2" additional drop & They're the Best!!
I recomend you get the X2 ball joints and have a MUSTANG SHOP install it and warranty the work. Boom! Then you got what you want. Have any problems, then BOOM! They replace it. WIN/WIN Situation. Get the X3 ball joints, they help the V6 oh, so, greatly now.
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Re: Steeds competition springs

im sure they will work great for you, get OEM rear isolators, others can raise the car up as they are thicker.
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Ok well got everything installed today. Looks good here are the pics. Went with OEM balljoints. I have the steeda X2's for sale if anyone is interested. Brand new fit 94-04 stangs. Here are the pics. Everything sounds fine except now there is a weird ticking noise coming from either the cowl area or the transmission) Kind of like a winding sound, and when i slow down it slows down and when I stop its not existent. Also another note is how high the original strut is in the new cc plates). Ohh btw the rear dropped 1 inch exactly and the front dropped 1.25".
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Re: Steeds competition springs

Looks much better...you can definitely see the difference in height when comparing the 2 sets of pics. Did you end up installing a bumpsteer kit?
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No bumpsteer kit. I decided to just install stock ball joints and according to chuck at MM the OEM ball joints are high friction and do not require a bumpsteer kit to be installed. I'm going on a longer drive today so I'll be able to get a better feel. The one thing bothering me is the noise. Not sure what its from though? Like i said its like a winding up and winding down noise respectfully when I accelerate and decelerate. At idle its not there. Sounds like something is either knocking under the tranny or by the cowl area. Any thoughts?
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Sounds like the tire is rubbing on something. Look for shiny spots on the tire in question.
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I don't think its the tire. I think the car just has a little more vibration now that the geometry is different and its causing something to vibrate near the cowl or transmission. My dyno man said it may be do to the driveshaft angle being off slightly. He said you can correct it with rear adjustable upper control arms, but that will have to wait a while. As long as it does not affect the way the car drives I think it will be ok. I took the car on a longer cruise (60 miles) and wow what a difference. Everyone who states the car feels like its on rails is exactly right. Just huge change in driving period. I think maybe i need to get new front struts now that the top sticks out 3 inches (but I guess its just cosmetic).
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Yeah, hadn't thought of that. Changing the alignment might make the tread give a different sound until it wears in.
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Yea...I did get a custom allignment done though as I don't want to run into that problem, but your definitely right. I don't know who would not get one after they lower it as they are in for a rude awakening.
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get a printout of the alignment, many will just do as good as they can and say "ok your good" when in reality they either didnt adjust the camber or couldnt get it close enough... and dont tell you.
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Yea I have the print out and the car is definitely straight. Camber was definitely adjusted although I'm not an expert on it and can't really interpret it other than I know it was adjusted.
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