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Old 06-05-2011, 10:19 PM   #1
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Dual Exhaust hp gains

Okay guys so I've made up my mind on what type of exhaust I want. I'm going to cut off the stock v6 exhaust right before the two pipes meet after the cats. Then bolt on two thrush welded mufflers. Then followed by two down pipes... Are the thrush welded mufflers good for v6's sound wise? And what kinda hp gains should I expect? Only mod is a Cai
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They sound ok and gain is like 5-10 hp
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Re: Dual Exhaust hp gains

If done by a bad muffler shop I could see this costing you HP...

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How would there be a loss of hp? And can I see any mpg gains?
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Lol only if they increase the pipe size but gain of mpg is maybe 1 at most
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Okay so, would you recommend that I keep the 2-1/4 inch pipe size for the muffler?
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Yes unless you plan to turbo or big power in the future
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Okay thanks guys
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Re: Dual Exhaust hp gains

think logically ppl. exhaust will exit the vehicle the same thru the stock pipes as it will thru the new mufflers. you might loose a little back pressure giving you a few poneys. but nothing you will feel. no real mpg gain. the main reason to change the exhaust is to produce a different sound.
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think logically ppl. exhaust will exit the vehicle the same thru the stock pipes as it will thru the new mufflers. you might loose a little back pressure giving you a few poneys. but nothing you will feel. no real mpg gain. the main reason to change the exhaust is to produce a different sound.
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Huh?
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So basically by what your saying is exhaust is a waste of money? And it's all about sound? I'd like u to tell this to people at tuner school who can show you power gains from their custom made exhaust. Dyno proven
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Getting dual exhaust will save a few mpg. The engine will breath better. You will gain hp, u will always feel a difference with every mod.
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So basically by what your saying is exhaust is a waste of money? And it's all about sound? I'd like u to tell this to people at tuner school who can show you power gains from their custom made exhaust. Dyno proven
We are not talkin custom tuned exhaust. We are talking bolt on. And it's more about the sound. Yes you might gain some but you won't gain a real noticeable amount with bolt ons. That's what I'm saying.
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With a custom tune you might tho
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Getting dual exhaust will save a few mpg. The engine will breath better. You will gain hp, u will always feel a difference with every mod.
Thats where you are wrong. You cannot feel 5hp. It's not enough to feel. Your under the placebo effect.
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With a custom tune you might tho
You can gain hp with a custom tune and stock exhaust. So it's arguable.
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Thats where you are wrong. You cannot feel 5hp. It's not enough to feel. Your under the placebo effect.
You still feel a difference tho, like an improvement in acceleration. You won't feel 5 hp ur right that's not noticeable amount of hp. But there is defiantly a difference.
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I felt a difference jus by adding a cai. Maybe not hp but the acceleration improved. Improved enough to where I started burning rubber more easy. There's a difference with every mod. And most deffinatly in exhaust.
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You still feel a difference tho, like an improvement in acceleration. You won't feel 5 hp ur right that's not noticeable amount of hp. But there is defiantly a difference.
There is a sound difference, Which makes it sound faster. Agin the dyno will only show a few hp gained. Like 5hp.
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I bought my exhaust before my tuner and my car deffinatly benefit from them. And improved even more after a tuner.
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I felt a difference jus by adding a cai. Maybe not hp but the acceleration improved. Improved enough to where I started burning rubber more easy. There's a difference with every mod. And most deffinatly in exhaust.
To his and her own. I'm not gonna argue. Just saying the dyno begs to differ
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Why does it seem like you always wanna dampen everyone elses ideas. Seems like your a v8 owner that wants to pick on a v6 owner. We know our hp gains aren't as great as yours, we know that from the start. You don't have to keep reminding us. Seems like whenever someone on here talks about a new upgrade you always have something negative to say.
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Why does it seem like you always wanna dampen everyone elses ideas. Seems like your a v8 owner that wants to pick on a v6 owner. We know our hp gains aren't as great as yours, we know that from the start. You don't have to keep reminding us. Seems like whenever someone on here talks about a new upgrade you always have something negative to say.
sorry buddy...IMO he's right. you arent gonna feel 5 hp. its the placeabo affect...and Im a v6 owner. just my .02
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Why does it seem like you always wanna dampen everyone elses ideas. Seems like your a v8 owner that wants to pick on a v6 owner. We know our hp gains aren't as great as yours, we know that from the start. You don't have to keep reminding us. Seems like whenever someone on here talks about a new upgrade you always have something negative to say.
No. I'm trying to be truthful. I have nothing against a v6. In fact I'm looking for one for a dd. I have stated that a v8 is a better basis for power. The v6 has a limit. I've been working with performance parts for a few years. And you can spend a grand on bolt ins and only get 20-40 hp on the dyno. Whenever I want hp. I go big. I don't dothe little bolt on stuff cause it don't do much. I'm not trying to be negative. I'm just talking from dyno and track experience. and it's not just you v6ers. I'm talking the same for the v8 ppl out there. Mufflers are not anbig power adder. It's minimal gains if any. I don't know why you think I'm singling out the v6s.
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I know that part. I said that already too. But what I'm saying is even tho our cars don't benefit from mods much as hp terms it does make our cars better perform. That's what I'm saying. And exhaust u will get about 10hp if done right and 10 hp u will feel. We can argue all day about this its all a matter of ones opinion.
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I know that part. I said that already too. But what I'm saying is even tho our cars don't benefit from mods much as hp terms it does make our cars better perform. That's what I'm saying. And exhaust u will get about 10hp if done right and 10 hp u will feel. We can argue all day about this its all a matter of ones opinion.
Actually it's factually proven on dyno and track. That's where you think im trying to shoot you down. But it's proven. Trust me. I got nothing against you. I just know from what I've seen and what proof is out there
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Gears you can feel but don't add hp or tq
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Gears you can feel but don't add hp or tq
That's true. But that's trading top end for acceleration. Your changing your axle speed to transmission output speed. There is a trade off for gears. And besides. We are talkin about exhaust. Not gears. Exhaust doesn't change the final gear ratio.
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Well turbo use exhaust fumes for power so we are getting rid of some power lol
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Well turbo use exhaust fumes for power so we are getting rid of some power lol
What turbo are you talking about? Turbo brand mufflers? Or a actual turbo? Confused what your trying to say?
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A turbo not a muffler. But they use the gas from our exhaust. So there is power from the car waste
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A turbo not a muffler. But they use the gas from our exhaust. So there is power from the car waste
Still confused? Explain "power from the car waste". I can't understand you?
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So what will give me more of a throaty v8 sound? Any brand in perticular?
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So what will give me more of a throaty v8 sound? Any brand in perticular?
I don't know the v6 sound. But from what I hear from other ppl is pypes makes a good v6 muffler
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