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Old 07-17-2011, 03:31 PM   #1
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Low end Torque V6

I was wondering if there is a way to get ALOT of low end torque out of a 2002 3.8 V6 without doing any internal engine mods and headers. I currently Autocross my car with my dad who drives a 65 Shelby Cobra. I'm so hell bent on beating him but currently my Stage 1, 2, and 3 Steed suspension and Steeda Cold Air intake isn't giving me enough "UMF" to beat him. I'm about 4 seconds behind him, And god I'm Hell bent to beat him in MY CAR! or maybe beat him in his own car.... Any help would be great keep in mind im 16 with a minimum wage busser job.
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Lower gears maybe?
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Re: Low end Torque V6

it's blower time!!!
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Re: Low end Torque V6

Yah a power adder with low boost and solid tuning is probably the best way to gain the most torque without tearing into the engine.

There aren't many other ways to gain serious torque. As said, gears will better distribute the torque throughout the power curve...an aggressive tune on a higher octane might also wake the car up a bit. The timing and a/f ratios being altered boosts the car's response significantly.
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Easy upgrade since its on top of the engine..

http://www.vapauto.com/windstar.htm
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Easy upgrade since its on top of the engine..

http://www.vapauto.com/windstar.htm
This is a great upgrade..but doesn't do much for torque...I love it on mine...
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Easy upgrade since its on top of the engine..

http://www.vapauto.com/windstar.htm
That looks cool. Almost looks like the new 5.0 lol minus 2 more cylinders.
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They say u will gain 15 ft/lbs so u will get something out the deal and it's also half the weight of the stock intake better for autocross
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U also said headers but u can keep them and and just get some type of exhaust to let the engine breath better
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Re: Low end Torque V6

not much you can do other than gears~ but that comes at the price of higher rpms up top~ so its a trade off.
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not much you can do other than gears~ but that comes at the price of higher rpms up top~ so its a trade off.
maybe a 3.55 gear would be good. better low end torque, and let him get a taste of v-8 fuel milage.
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maybe a 3.55 gear would be good. better low end torque, and let him get a taste of v-8 fuel milage.
I have yet to see 3.55's for the 7.5" in the v6's. There might be some out there for the 7.5" that were in the fox bodies a while back.

If not he'd have to get an 8.8" rear and upgrade the gears.
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I have yet to see 3.55's for the 7.5" in the v6's. There might be some out there for the 7.5" that were in the fox bodies a while back.

If not he'd have to get an 8.8" rear and upgrade the gears.
he could even get a 3.73 out of a ranger
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Re: Low end Torque V6

weight reduction would be the next thing, you can shave down the V6 to crazy levels compared to the GT as well as look into rotating weight (wheels, drive shaft) those add up 1lb of dead weight = 10lbs of rotating weight~
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weight reduction would be the next thing, you can shave down the V6 to crazy levels compared to the GT as well as look into rotating weight (wheels, drive shaft) those add up 1lb of dead weight = 10lbs of rotating weight~
Why different than the gt? Besides a smaller engine, how else would you make it lighter? I've always wante to to that
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Why different than the gt? Besides a smaller engine, how else would you make it lighter? I've always wante to to that
Well, the big thing is the engine... The gt is very nose heavy in the corners..
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I have changed the gears a little bit by putting in a Mach 1 axle and this winter I am putting in the world class transmission my dad has in his Cobra since he is running to much horse power through his but I guess weight reduction would be the next thing
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Why different than the gt? Besides a smaller engine, how else would you make it lighter? I've always wante to to that
the engine is lighter, so is the T-5 vs the T-45 the GT has. The base V6 is 3060lbs~ most average around 3100-3150 with a manual transmission.

Cut weight and get light wheels and you can make a big difference for sure.
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