GT muffler take offs? - Mustang Evolution

Go Back   Mustang Evolution > 4 Cylinder | V6 | Classic Mustangs || Tech and Talk > Pre-2005 V6 Mustang



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them here!
Old 09-22-2011, 09:18 PM   #1
Registered Member
Regular
 
Ruthless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Region: Texas
Posts: 122
GT muffler take offs?

Have a 2000 V6 auto and I have heard I can buy some stock GT mufflers for it and improve performance along with the styling of the dual tips. Any thoughts? Problems with doing this? Any idea what it will sound like? Anyone in Dallas TX area have take offs for sale?
Ruthless is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 09-23-2011, 04:09 PM   #2
Registered Member
Regular
 
gc19662007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Region: Texas
Posts: 216
The dual tips do look better than the single in my opinion. I put stock GT mufflers and true dual exhaust on my 07 V6 and it doesn't really do much for performance if you ask me but I like the way it looks and sounds. You can still tell it's a 6 when you get your foot into it.
gc19662007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2011, 04:11 PM   #3
Registered Member
Regular
 
Ruthless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Region: Texas
Posts: 122
How much louder is it?
Ruthless is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 09-23-2011, 04:15 PM   #4
Registered Member
Regular
 
gc19662007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Region: Texas
Posts: 216
Its probably about 30% louder. Its also deeper. I almost didnt do the dual because just the one muffler sounded way better than the crap stock 6 muffler it came with, I just had extra cash I could spend which doesn't usually happen when you're married.
gc19662007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2011, 07:25 PM   #5
Registered Member
Regular
 
sonicpony03's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: WI
Region: Wisconsin
Posts: 5,411
Re: GT muffler take offs?

GT takeoff's are a great addition to a v6 mustang. They retain the 2.25" piping and the sound isn't over the top.

There's a fellow member on the site, Gt.Vert who had the full catback from his GT for sale for a while. I'm not sure if it's still for sale...might be worth PM'ing him if you're interested. I believe he's in Texas too.

The sound will be slightly more aggressive than the stock single muffler and slightly louder too.

The nice thing about the takeoff's is if you want more aggressive mufflers you can simply swap some in.

Fitment shouldn't be an issue...you will need some passenger side hangers for piping and tips.
__________________


12 Black GT500 SVT PP l VMP TVS l JLT123 l O/R X l 28x11.50Rx15 M/T Street R's l BMR Suspension l Recaros

03 Sonic Blue 3.8 / 17 Magnetic Fusion Sport 2.7 EB
sonicpony03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2011, 11:52 PM   #6
Registered Member
Regular
 
gc19662007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Region: Texas
Posts: 216
Unfortunately they done hold up well to a 35mph impact by a 17 year old in a Toyota camry.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	image-1421759760.png
Views:	156
Size:	825.1 KB
ID:	32120  
gc19662007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2011, 11:54 PM   #7
Registered Member
Regular
 
gc19662007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Region: Texas
Posts: 216
And the driver side doesn't hold up well to a suburban bumper after being rearended at 35 mph while halfway through a turn.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	image-1238473969.png
Views:	184
Size:	832.2 KB
ID:	32121  
gc19662007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2011, 04:37 AM   #8
Registered Member
Regular
 
blackhawk 1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Region: California
Posts: 472
Re: GT muffler take offs?

thats a shame , hope you are ok
blackhawk 1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2011, 06:09 AM   #9
Registered Member
Regular
 
gc19662007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Region: Texas
Posts: 216
Know how a pinball feels now. Thank you sir. I'll be good after the soreness wears off.
gc19662007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2011, 06:13 AM   #10
Registered Member
Regular
 
blackhawk 1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Region: California
Posts: 472
Re: GT muffler take offs?

Glad you are ok, You can call me Lincoln
blackhawk 1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2011, 06:18 AM   #11
Registered Member
Regular
 
gc19662007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Region: Texas
Posts: 216
Sounds good Lincoln. I'm Greg, well, what's left of him. I'm already looking at GTs. That was my first Mustang, gonna miss that car.
gc19662007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2011, 07:45 AM   #12
Registered Member
Regular
 
robb15033's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Northern Virginia
Region: Virginia
Posts: 2,109
Re: GT muffler take offs?

The GT takeoff is a reasonable option but bland sounding. Like mentioned above, if you can get it dirt cheap, you can keep it as is or replace the mufflers down the road.
YouTube has thousands of V6 exhaust videos to listen to. DirecTV is linked to YouTube now and the sound is better coming out of larger surround sound speakers.
__________________
'97 3.8L V6
Pacific Green
1996 SVT Cobra White
robb15033 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2011, 08:31 AM   #13
Registered Member
Regular
 
Ruthless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Region: Texas
Posts: 122
Wow what a shame to see those pics. I'm glad you're ok and hopefully getting a big fat settlement check to blow on a new one. So I'm moderately pleased with the GT option if nothing else it's a way to convert to dual exhaust and then mufflers can be swapped like mentioned above. My other question then is where do the two systems meet up? I haven't had a chance to get ours up on a lift yet and check it out. I think I saw a cat converter on each side of the motor right after the manifolds. I assume those two come to a Y pipe and out the back. Would the GT cat back bolt right up to both of my cats? Assuming that's what they were....
Ruthless is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2011, 12:39 PM   #14
Registered Member
Regular
 
gc19662007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Region: Texas
Posts: 216
The passenger side fits the GT but uses one less bracket and bolts right up over the axle. The stock 6 does have 2 converters before the Y. I did not use anything other than the mufflers an not sure how the GT exhaust would fit. We just cut out the Y and ran new pipe out the back on the driver side using same size pipe. You will need the GT brackets for the driver side if you want to hang it exactly at the stock location, the holes are already there. Then you will have to cut the bumper.
gc19662007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2011, 01:48 PM   #15
Registered Member
Regular
 
Ruthless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Region: Texas
Posts: 122
Re: GT muffler take offs?

ick!!!! cut my bumper!!!!!!!?????? the left side doesnt have a "relief" if you will for the pipe i was thinking about just running them half an inch under the bumper and level.
Ruthless is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2011, 02:01 PM   #16
Registered Member
Regular
 
Las0mbra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Region: Oklahoma
Posts: 2,104
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruthless
ick!!!! cut my bumper!!!!!!!?????? the left side doesnt have a "relief" if you will for the pipe i was thinking about just running them half an inch under the bumper and level.
You can cut them pretty easily. They're plastic. And it looks way better
Las0mbra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2011, 02:05 PM   #17
Registered Member
Regular
 
Ruthless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Region: Texas
Posts: 122
Re: GT muffler take offs?

man the simple thought of it makes me cringe! has anyone done this before? maybe some tips or tricks? i would assume taping off the whole area to avoid chips or scratches... but any further tips or advice?
Ruthless is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2011, 02:10 PM   #18
Registered Member
Regular
 
Las0mbra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Region: Oklahoma
Posts: 2,104
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruthless
man the simple thought of it makes me cringe! has anyone done this before? maybe some tips or tricks? i would assume taping off the whole area to avoid chips or scratches... but any further tips or advice?
Well, trace what you want to cut, measure, measure, measure, and then make the cuts. Sanding them smooth when you're done. I'm not completely sure of any precautions youd need to take, but it's pretty simple and you can make a thread if you need more info.
Las0mbra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2011, 02:12 PM   #19
Registered Member
Regular
 
Ruthless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Region: Texas
Posts: 122
Re: GT muffler take offs?

I think ill do that!
Ruthless is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2011, 09:06 AM   #20
Registered Member
Regular
 
robb15033's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Northern Virginia
Region: Virginia
Posts: 2,109
Re: GT muffler take offs?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruthless View Post
I think ill do that!
There are "cut out" kits you can buy. Comes with a template, and examples of doing it with a dremel ect. is on you tube.
The exhaust pipe is 2.25" after the cats. Connecting a 2.5" exhaust on to a stock V6 will provide a loss of torque.
__________________
'97 3.8L V6
Pacific Green
1996 SVT Cobra White
robb15033 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2011, 10:32 AM   #21
Registered Member
Regular
 
Ruthless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Region: Texas
Posts: 122
I was thinking about that... Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't a smaller pipe increase low end power due to the correct amount of back pressure for the low volume of air where a larger pipe diameter will increase high end power due to the increased volume of exhaust gasses to make the same pressure. So if this is true has anyone ever attempted to make a variable back pressure exhaust system? Maybe a gate valve type setup that restricts exhaust flow at low rpm to increase back pressure when needed but when you're rpm goes up the valve opens up to again allow for the correct back pressure in relation to the rpm. It's kinda like having your cake and eating it too! Lol!
Ruthless is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2011, 01:26 AM   #22
Registered Member
Regular
 
robb15033's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Northern Virginia
Region: Virginia
Posts: 2,109
Re: GT muffler take offs?

YES. There are mufflers designed that way- internal spring loaded dampers.
I have a lot of experience with exhaust work. A simple example of close to perfect back pressure for the V6 is when you add a cat-back system. It frees up the system better than stock. It is not easy to have things balanced out perfect. Many variables come into play once modifications have been done to the engine. I am on my fourth, and certainly not my last, exhaust system. Using 2.25" piping as far as I could (about a foot before the mufflers) worked well. BUT, Many variables can come into play- Long tube headers will use 2.5" pipe, eliminating cats effect pressures, all GT catbacks are 2.5" pipes, ect.....ect...
So, You just have to use some common sense and I recommend a VAP Intake Spacer to add low end torque.
__________________
'97 3.8L V6
Pacific Green
1996 SVT Cobra White
robb15033 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2011, 05:24 AM   #23
Registered Member
Regular
 
Just_John's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Region: South Dakota
Posts: 384
Re: GT muffler take offs?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruthless View Post
So if this is true has anyone ever attempted to make a variable back pressure exhaust system? Maybe a gate valve type setup that restricts exhaust flow at low rpm to increase back pressure when needed but when you're rpm goes up the valve opens up to again allow for the correct back pressure in relation to the rpm. It's kinda like having your cake and eating it too! Lol!
Yeah, what he said up there ^^...

The original "Turbo" mufflers introduced in the 1980's were advertised to do exactly as you suggest... maintain high backpressure and a quiet tone at low cruising RPMs and then bypass internally when you stomp on it which allowed a more direct and unrestricted exhaust flow resulting in increased power in the mid to high RPM range.

Back in 1983, on my '68 Chevelle I swapped out my Orange Peeler glass packs for a set of Thrush Turbos and the results were impressive. Nice quiet rumble until I stomped on it, then it got louder than hell and launched like a 396 is supposed to!
Just_John is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2011, 06:41 PM   #24
Registered User
Newbie
 
Js163j's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Region: Rhode Island
Posts: 5
I did the flow master true dual conversion also did the back GT bumper. Got it real cheap on certifit.com my car sounds good and looks like a GT.
Js163j is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2011, 12:58 PM   #25
Registered Member
Regular
 
TwoSeveN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Region: Texas
Posts: 68
Ruthless, where in Dallas are you?
TwoSeveN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2011, 01:52 PM   #26
Registered Member
Regular
 
ForsakenProto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Region: North Carolina
Posts: 1,143
Quote:
Originally Posted by Js163j
I did the flow master true dual conversion also did the back GT bumper. Got it real cheap on certifit.com my car sounds good and looks like a GT.
What's your setup?
ForsakenProto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2011, 08:57 PM   #27
Registered Member
Regular
 
Ruthless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Region: Texas
Posts: 122
Town east mall area.
Ruthless is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2011, 02:33 AM   #28
Registered Member
Regular
 
robb15033's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Northern Virginia
Region: Virginia
Posts: 2,109
Re: GT muffler take offs?

I went the cheaper route by using the headers, cats, no mid-pipe, and Flowmaster mufflers.-.-.---___
__________________
'97 3.8L V6
Pacific Green
1996 SVT Cobra White
robb15033 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2011, 03:30 PM   #29
Registered User
Newbie
 
Js163j's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Region: Rhode Island
Posts: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by robb15033
I went the cheaper route by using the headers, cats, no mid-pipe, and Flowmaster mufflers.-.-.---___
How does it sound?

---------- Post added at 04:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:29 PM ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by ForsakenProto

What's your setup?
I got headers, dual cats, mid pipes ad dual flowmaster mufflers. My car sounds pretty dope!
Js163j is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2011, 05:32 PM   #30
Registered Member
Regular
 
ForsakenProto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Region: North Carolina
Posts: 1,143
Quote:
Originally Posted by Js163j

How does it sound?

---------- Post added at 04:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:29 PM ----------



I got headers, dual cats, mid pipes ad dual flowmaster mufflers. My car sounds pretty dope!
You sir, need to post a video then. And maybe what brand for all your equipment. I'm trying to get my true dual setup and I haven't decided on anything but flowmaster mufflers. Did u do longtube or shortys?
ForsakenProto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2011, 05:49 PM   #31
Registered User
Newbie
 
Js163j's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Region: Rhode Island
Posts: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by ForsakenProto

You sir, need to post a video then. And maybe what brand for all your equipment. I'm trying to get my true dual setup and I haven't decided on anything but flowmaster mufflers. Did u do longtube or shortys?
I'll post a video and I went with shortys. I did bbk pullies before my true dual conversion and so I liked their products and so I went with bbk shorty headers. And everything else from cats to mufflers is flowmaster.
Js163j is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2011, 08:19 PM   #32
Registered Member
Regular
 
robb15033's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Northern Virginia
Region: Virginia
Posts: 2,109
Re: GT muffler take offs?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Js163j View Post
How does it sound?

---------- Post added at 04:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:29 PM ----------



I got headers, dual cats, mid pipes ad dual flowmaster mufflers. My car sounds pretty dope!
It sounds kinda like this- Microphones distort but you get an idea of what it sounds like- Click on blue links- Exhaust Video Links:


Let me know if the link worked or not-?._-!
__________________
'97 3.8L V6
Pacific Green
1996 SVT Cobra White
robb15033 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Mustang Evolution > 4 Cylinder | V6 | Classic Mustangs || Tech and Talk > Pre-2005 V6 Mustang

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
hi all need help with my gt moss114 New Member Introductions & Greetings 12 09-23-2011 05:40 AM
2011 V6 versus 2012 GT 5.0 avengnd General Mustang Discussion 6 09-01-2011 05:49 AM
1966 Ford Mustang GT Fastback Raffle to Protect Children jdipietro ME Site Help & Announcements 1 07-01-2011 05:43 PM

» Like Us On Facebook



04:51 PM


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0

MustangEvolution.com is in no way associated with or endorsed by Ford Motor Company.