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Old 10-12-2011, 08:33 PM   #1
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I want throttle response!

Went for a drive today and noticed something I highly dislike about fords in general... My dads 99 f150 does the same thing. When you push on the gas there is about a 2 second delay before the car starts going. My dodge pickup has 5x the throttle response of the mustang... I'm not ok with that! Sure you could hold the trans in 1st or 2nd depending on speed and keep your rpms way up but I'm not trying to race all the time... Just looking for a fun sporty non sluggish ride. What do I need to do? Tune? "winstar intake"? Whatever that is... Don't really wanna go gears it's not a race car... What works for these cars?
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If your looking for throttle response and shift points (if automatic) then go with a chip or custom hand held tuner. I would go with the tuner myself because its easier to update the tunes. But if your looking for more hp as well I would look into manifold, cai, throttle body, underdrive pulley ect. Just depends on what your looking for me personally I like more hp lol
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The gas pedal mod will give you way better throttle response and it's about $3 in materials.
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What is the pedal mod?
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If you look at your gas pedal and lift it up (towards the steering wheel) you will notice about a inch and a half of slack in the throttle cable. The gas pedal mod is just a spacer that takes up that slack therefore, making the throttle more responsive.[COLOR="Silver"]
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Were can you get the spacer
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I used a piece of plastic tubing from the hardware store and hose clamps to secure it in place.
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Old 10-12-2011, 10:18 PM   #8
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Sounds kinda getto lol no offence
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^lol..., just type in " gas pedal mod mustang " into google and youll see how common it is. Ghetto maybe but also cheap and effective.
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Definitely sounds ghetto rigged but definitely worth a shot. Maybe I'll make up a really clean setup and put up some plans and materials. Should that for the most part fix the 2 second delay?
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Re: I want throttle response!

I would ignore the "petal mod" as the petal will eventually stretch right back out where it was. Get a friend to help, push the gas petal to the floor and get a friend to see if he can move the throttle anymore at the throttle body, if he cant your fine.
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Old 10-13-2011, 09:58 AM   #12
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Good call... That definitely makes sense. I was wondering if it was really going to help. I want this thing to be snappy like my truck... I can be rolling at like 5 mph and just 1/2 the gas pedal really quick and the front end of the truck literally will raise about 3-4 inches and jump forward. And that's not just bad suspension. Makes it fun when someone cuts you off in traffic and they end up with a dodge jumping at them I have literally had people cut me off then get back out of the way. Lol
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Ok so I did a little research and found a turn key winstar kit for about 400 bucks. Anyone have problems with them! Coments? Pictures?!?!

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Ok so I did a little research and found a turn key winstar kit for about 400 bucks. Anyone have problems with them! Coments? Pictures?!?!
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Re: I want throttle response!

Stomp on the go pedal !!!!
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Re: I want throttle response!

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Ok so I did a little research and found a turn key winstar kit for about 400 bucks. Anyone have problems with them! Coments? Pictures?!?!
I have a windstar kit that I bought from VAP. The only issue I have had with mine is that the high-temp silicone hose that is included in the kit burned up after only a few weeks. I replaced it with some plumbing fittings I had in the garage... a pair of 45 degree elbows and a 5 inch length of 1/2 inch copper pipe took care of that. I sealed it with fireplace sealant. That stuff cured solid as a rock and is good for up to 2000 degrees.

If you look at the picture in "My Garage" you can see a green hose... that got brittle and crumbled.
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Old 10-15-2011, 04:32 AM   #16
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Did you feel a good bit of difference? Make the car more fun? And most importantly dies your car jump at the touch of the gas pedal?
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Went for a drive today and noticed something I highly dislike about fords in general... My dads 99 f150 does the same thing. When you push on the gas there is about a 2 second delay before the car starts going. My dodge pickup has 5x the throttle response of the mustang... I'm not ok with that! Sure you could hold the trans in 1st or 2nd depending on speed and keep your rpms way up but I'm not trying to race all the time... Just looking for a fun sporty non sluggish ride. What do I need to do? Tune? "winstar intake"? Whatever that is... Don't really wanna go gears it's not a race car... What works for these cars?
I've noticed the same exact thing! It drives me nuts. I have a CAI on the way, and then I'm going to get myself a tuner- I found a Perf shop in town and I'm taking my car in to be dynoed and tuned probably the first week of Nov. You better believe the first thing I'm going to ask the tech is about this issue. I'd be happy to report back in a few weeks... I've wondered if I needed to clean the throttle body, but I had also asked them to do that at the dealership a couple months ago, which they said they did. I believe them because the response is a hundred times better after that was done. It's not a big problem- not really even much of a problem, but for the reasons you've already gone thru, I'd like it improved.
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Re: I want throttle response!

I did the gas pedal mod the other day, and if you plan on doing it, the hose clamps are near the plumbing section, and the nylon spacer are near where you have your key made. Assuming that lowes all around the country are basically set up the same inside. Driving after doing the mod was like having to relearn how to drive, but was well worth it in my opinion. Ive got a K&N CAI, VAP auto intake spacer, and run BAMA tunes on my car and i see almost no throttle lag at all. Im very pleased with the way it runs now, as well as with how hard it an pull in the lower RPMs thanks to the spacer
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Old 10-17-2011, 01:47 AM   #19
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Re: I want throttle response!

Pedal mod and throttle body modifications have been done to extend the space between the bracket and the stop plate.
Someone on e-bay sells 56mm TB's with several mods done to improve performance if you are ready for one> Ported intakes, Windstar install ect...
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Wouldn't gears somehow make up for that lag? What I think he's looking for is pick up power. Dodge has performance gears that's just how they come. Just a thought...
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Wouldn't gears somehow make up for that lag? What I think he's looking for is pick up power. Dodge has performance gears that's just how they come. Just a thought...
The weird part is that my dads 99 f150 does it too with the v8 and towing package. So it's not just that the motor is too small or that the gears are too high because my dads truck wouldn't be the same way. In theory....
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I would ignore the "petal mod" as the petal will eventually stretch right back out where it was. Get a friend to help, push the gas petal to the floor and get a friend to see if he can move the throttle anymore at the throttle body, if he cant your fine.
I did it... Will it harm the throttle cable and positioning?
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Old 10-17-2011, 07:21 PM   #23
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I did it... Will it harm the throttle cable and positioning?
I don't see how it can hurt as long as your throttle body isn't wide open and you keep pushing farther on the pedal and stretch the cable. How do you like is since the mod?
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It's better.
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The weird part is that my dads 99 f150 does it too with the v8 and towing package. So it's not just that the motor is too small or that the gears are too high because my dads truck wouldn't be the same way. In theory....
My Taurus does it as well. I think ford did it is as a liability issue, if your car got instant throttle response you might be more likely to hit someone from a light or something. There is 1-1/2in if slack in the cable meaning that when you press the pedal it needs to move that distance before the cable becomes tight and starts opening the TB.

Btw I've had 0 issues with the pedal mod for ~6months
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Re: I want throttle response!

I did it, I like it. Use a tiny bit of common sence and it's all good. No issues. Sometimes the linkage is modified too, as in this picture below-:
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Old 10-18-2011, 04:43 PM   #27
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My test mod worked but needed modification... I'm going to invent something to where this mod is easy... It's a pain in the ***...
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Old 10-19-2011, 07:42 AM   #28
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Need to just make a kit with everything in it and pre cut.

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