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Old 11-15-2011, 08:53 AM   #1
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GT or customize my v6

Should I do a custom 4.2L in my v6 and new tranny to support it? All parts would mostly come from SSM and done by Napa or a place like that, or should I sell my v6 and get a GT, and work on it from there? I like the fact that I could have a sleeper v6 but the GTs will always hold price better. I can get my v6 to put out 5-600 HP. Any thoughts?
I'd be looking to get a 03-06 GT.
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Re: GT or customize my v6

everyone has their own opinion, you have to weigh the pros/cons and figure out the real world cost and if what you end up with will make you happy.

The more mods you do to a vehicle the more trouble and hassle you WILL have, thats just part of it.

I decided for me it was better to save and buy what I wanted as a GT or Mach 1 simply wasnt enough to satisfy me.

Building a 500-600hp V6 will probably end up costing you way more than you expected and in the end you will wish you never started the project, that would be my honest opinion but you never know.... plus its not as easy as it sounds to do... and you may give up a ton of drivability.

I would NOT EVER do this for my daily driver, only a weekend car and especially if you can not afford breaking stuff and massive downtime.
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I'd go for a GT, it would be extremely expensive to get a v6 to make that much power. Forged internals and lots of boost.
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I want to make myself a nice weekend driver that's fast as hell but a good streetable car during the week to get to work etc. I only drive like 20-30miles a day. That's half the reason my 03 mustang only has 80k miles on it I don't drive a lot.
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I personally think you should up grade your v6. Because every one will be expecting a high power v8... But how many people can say they have a 600 HP v6?
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^ true that. It would just take money and time 5k in the engine with out FI. and idk how much in the tranny, would have to find a place to do that.
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Well my friend will soon have his 05 V6 up to about 450 horsies, and he has smashed soooo much money into that thing, they are very VERY expensive.

It is much much easier and cheaper to get up to that horsepower with a GT, but it's really about what you want.

Yes a GT will hold a bit more value, especially a well done custom, but a V6 will sell much, much more easier.

IMO if you're wanting a weekend driver, build the GT how you want it and get the horsepower you want, half the people I know that have custom GTs drive them to work occasionally and still have them special on the weekends.

The common reason (not applying to me ha!) people buy a V6 is because they're not too interested in horsepower and are concerned with gas, you seem to be very interested in horsepower and trust me, my sixxer only gets 18.5 MPG, which is sometimes less than the GTs, so its not an issue with gas, and I drive around 50-60 miles a day if I don't do much.

But do what you want, just weigh the pros and cons
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Yes mine 6 gets 17. So it's about the same as a GT. Its either a GT or a 77 vette stingray
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Yeah, so it really comes down to how much money are you willing to spend, because a GT would be cheaper.

Damn. 69 stingray is what I would get if I had to pick a Chevy, ha!
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Ya I've seen several here for good prices and I love the old non-computer non-emmsion carb engines
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Yeah and not to mention 1969 was the peak of absolute straight up sex cars. Some beautiful legends were made that (ironic) year!
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Very true!
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429 is huge, I'd want matching # so I'd be looking at a 302
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everyone has their own opinion, you have to weigh the pros/cons and figure out the real world cost and if what you end up with will make you happy.

The more mods you do to a vehicle the more trouble and hassle you WILL have, thats just part of it.

I decided for me it was better to save and buy what I wanted as a GT or Mach 1 simply wasnt enough to satisfy me.

Building a 500-600hp V6 will probably end up costing you way more than you expected and in the end you will wish you never started the project, that would be my honest opinion but you never know.... plus its not as easy as it sounds to do... and you may give up a ton of drivability.

I would NOT EVER do this for my daily driver, only a weekend car and especially if you can not afford breaking stuff and massive downtime.
I agree with this 100% if you plan on it as a DD then go with a GT, personally I'd want the GT either way.
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+1. A GT will cost a couple extra bucks over a V6 in the short run, but will save you thousands in the long run for those hp #s!.. Unless you want some thing that is more unique, I would go with the GT!.. There is no replacement for displacement!.. I have two friends with some built up Mustangs!.. One is a GT and the other is a V6!.. Both spent roughly the same exact amount in their engines!.. The V6 is fully built and has almost 500hp at the wheels!.. The GT is built and has 600hp at the wheels!.. The V6 is a weekend only car!.. The GT is almost a daily driver!.. Know what you want before you dive in!....
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Problem with the GT is insurance, but so is insuring a 77 classic vette. I might do the vette cuz of the carb system and the older engines r SO much easier to work on. If I could find a 1970 Mach 1 or Fastback I'd buy that.
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My insurance would be just as much if it were a V6!.. Most insurance companies still consider the V6 a sports car or muscle car!..
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Really? Hmm, that's interesting I'll have to talk to my company about that.
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Mine was only about $6 more a month I believe
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Re: GT or customize my v6

As far as Insurance companies concerns "A Mustang is a Mustang", As far as what to do, Like many have said: Get the GT. I don't think you will be disappointed. And more so than being the sneaky guy with the sleeper Mustang, you'll be the guy "with the GT".
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I could make a sleeper GT, take the emblems off and leave it bare. And hush the exhaust.
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As far as Insurance companies concerns "A Mustang is a Mustang", As far as what to do, Like many have said: Get the GT. I don't think you will be disappointed. And more so than being the sneaky guy with the sleeper Mustang, you'll be the guy "with the GT".
Yeah a mustang is a mustang. They look at how they are classified. Right? Bc they're two door "sports cars" key word...
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I agree with most of the guys about horsepower definitely go with gt but I saw that v6 mustang modification guide and they have potential and also to be considered is granted city they aren't that great but still you have the fuel efficiency of a v6 with the horsepower gains atleast thats what I plan to do once I get the cash-flow true exactly what others said about the money to dump in but for me the long run is better fuel efficiency and sneakiness lol sorry for the long message
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Re: GT or customize my v6

Sink about 4k into the car and have a HCI turbo set up and 300+/- rwhp and stomp on GT's and a mach1 or 98 cobra or two

Thats if you do the work yourself ...

You on the other hand obviously wont.

So I say no, go buy a GT
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Re: GT or customize my v6

To the last sentence. Im not one to say I put a CAI kit on, some 9.5mm plug wires and so crazy plug name, a ebay 35hp chip, and a fake dual exhaust Ying off my muffler or stock Y pipe

I literally modded my V6
Ohh and I specified chip instead of tuner (see i said pay attention to detail). Tuner = win Chip = fail

---------- Post added at 08:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:15 PM ----------

9.23 @ 76 w/ 2.15 60' being my best 1/8th. Ive raced a new edge GT a friend of mine owns out there. Beat him by .1-.3 everytime.

This was done w/ my stock auto, 18'' FR500s, System in trunk, etc etc etc = lots of freaking weight !!!!
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He's got a full H/c/I setup with a 4.2 bottom end and a bunch of other stuff done. Like full exhaust and a Udp iirc.
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Re: GT or customize my v6

Hey I've pulled on a gt or two in my day.... or cobra... or gt500.. whatever

Anyway who really cares power is power right? A stock 99-04 GT on an SAE-5 dyno (like the one here at TWS that has to be calibrated for the CMC cars (none of that dyno screw with the numbers bs) puts down a whopping 240rwhp.

One good thing about modding car is.... everybody doesn't do the same thing, you run what you bring so if you didn't bring enough that not the other persons problem.
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Re: GT or customize my v6

can i get in on this v6 vs gt racing at the track

to the op, its all in what "you" want, not others.
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Re: GT or customize my v6

mine had 2 amps, no subs, 18's up front, stock ones in the rear, 1/2 tank of gas and i ran a 14.1
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In my experience you just buy the faster stock car. Its covered through insurance anyway. Those mods wont count if it ever gets totalled. All that money for nothin. Its a headache.
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get the gt
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To the last sentence. Im not one to say I put a CAI kit on, some 9.5mm plug wires and so crazy plug name, a ebay 35hp chip, and a fake dual exhaust Ying off my muffler or stock Y pipe

I literally modded my V6
Ohh and I specified chip instead of tuner (see i said pay attention to detail). Tuner = win Chip = fail

---------- Post added at 08:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:15 PM ----------

9.23 @ 76 w/ 2.15 60' being my best 1/8th. Ive raced a new edge GT a friend of mine owns out there. Beat him by .1-.3 everytime.

This was done w/ my stock auto, 18'' FR500s, System in trunk, etc etc etc = lots of freaking weight !!!!
9.23 is not fast, it's not even quick. I don't drag my current car it's an auto and basically stock. The black 95 GT in my pics went 9.30's with flow's and nothing else. With 275/40 rears, Mac cold air, aggressive timing advance, MSD cap and wires, off road H pipe, KIng Cobra clutch
and a Hurst shifter handle/plate, and NO TUNE went 9.0's very consistently with 150k miles, all four seats and the only weight reduction was removing the spare tire. The best ET being 8.83. This was in 2002-2003 so I have no slips as they went to the buyer.

My point is that these are very basic Mods to a car w/ 215 FWHP. Mods most everyone does or plans to do to a GT or a V6. That puts me 3 tenths ahead, and 3 tenths in an 1/8th is getting smoked. In fact the Corvette of the time was 4 tenth faster then me best time to best time. running 8.40's and 8.50's smoking me in the lane right beside him.

Original poster, starting with a GT will get you to your HP goals faster, easier, cheaper, and with a lot less headache.
If you have ET goals the same goes for that as well. It's all about your intentions. If HP and and ET's matter then choose a clean GT with a manual tranny as you will obtain your goals faster and easier, cheaper etc. none of this is to say a V6 can not be fast, not at all. Never think it. The V6 was not intended to be raced or built, that's what the GT's and Cobras are intended for. This logic I've laid out before you is the logic of Ford and their engineers and 'practical' buyers since the mid 80's when the Fox body Stangs caught fire and the aftermarket exploded. If for some reason you are dead set on a V6, save your money, clean up your trade and go get a 2011-2012 V6 with 305hp and 31 hwy MPG. Those stock V6's are light years beyond the stock V8's of 1985-2004, and have many many many more modification options then any V6 from 1994-2004. I sincerely hope you find this info and logic useful and insightful. In the end your choice will come down to you wants, needs, goals, finances and long term intentions. Good luck with the search for the car you want and be sure to let us know which way you end up going!
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