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Old 11-17-2011, 12:06 PM   #1
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Long tube vs shortys

Hey guys I can't decide between long tubes or shortys which are better and what sounds better
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Old 11-17-2011, 02:30 PM   #2
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Re: Long tube vs shortys

I know long tubes sound alot deeper and give more hp, whereas shortys give a raspier sound and not as much hp gain. But i've also heard if you put long headers on they swoop so low you cant lower your car at all, but idk if thats true....
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Whats your state smog law like? If you wanna keep the car smog legal go with Shortys. But if you don't care go with long tube, sounds better and more HP.
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Old 11-17-2011, 02:56 PM   #4
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Well right now I have boared out cats and I think my current headers leak so I know I can't pass Cali emissions and I need to do that but I'll find ways around it but I do Have a dual exhaust that is fitted to the stock ones how do I get around it
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If I were you I would do a complete new exhaust system. If your gonna do long tube headers, just go all new pipes, with and H or X pipe and Flows. Is gonna sound and feel so much better. I'm in the same process right now. I'm just not sure what type of Flowmaster to go with.
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Re: Long tube vs shortys

Now the real question, MAC? or Pacesetter???
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:12 PM   #7
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Well I already have h pipes and flow master super 44s one on each side they sound great I just need new heads and cats and I was looking at Mac unless the other ones are more money for your buck
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That I'm not sure. I took my cats off my last mustang completely. Is a risk, but it sounds great, that's my delima right now.
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Old 11-17-2011, 05:07 PM   #9
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Re: Long tube vs shortys

Well the cats arnt a huge issue I'll change them eventually but the headers are leaking and that's no good
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Old 11-17-2011, 06:31 PM   #10
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How hard are long tubes to install? I have an 03 and were thinking long tubes with my stock exhaust
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Old 11-17-2011, 06:58 PM   #11
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Re: Long tube vs shortys

youll be cutting and/or welding along the way if you have stock exhaust... better to atleast get an h or x pipe. but by the time youve done all of that, all you need is a catback and your done. might be better to do the whole thing at once unless your gonna have something custom made up.
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I was going to take it to a shop since I don't have much experience with making exhaust set ups.
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Not a bad idea but it isn't hard to do it your self but it shouldn't be to exspensive but shop around and get quotes from everyone it will help out with the price
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Re: Long tube vs shortys

seeing as there is already a thread about this, will long tube headers be a major clearance issue when i lower the mustang eventually?
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Ive lowered alot of long tubed stangs, they do get pretty low with the long tubes, for me its long tubes or nothing, hell with the clearance crap, the sound and the power to me is worth the trouble

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Now the real question, MAC? or Pacesetter???
I've tried different brands of long tubes, the best fit, and install for me were the BBKs since I installed the BBKs it's what I put on every stang I get, and the price is nice too
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Old 11-18-2011, 01:14 PM   #16
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Does it sound alot better then the shortys
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Old 11-18-2011, 01:21 PM   #17
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Re: Long tube vs shortys

I deff think so, like the other dude said, shorties have a more raspy sound but to me and my bros it's the the long tubes that sound the best, plus you get a few more ponies, and doesn't it always come down to power? Lmao, but good luck with what ever you use, stangs just sound bad *** with any exhaust!!!
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Old 11-18-2011, 01:35 PM   #18
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Re: Long tube vs shortys

While i hav an exaust expert on this thread is there anyway i'd be able to cat long tubes, i dont care if it requires an X or an H pipe.
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Thats true. Like dancobra75 said. It does sound way better with longtube headers. And more horses, On my 88 I had long tube with an H pipe and the front was dumped Hella low and it cleared it. Idk what the shop did when they hooked it up but I cleared find. I'm currently going shorty headers with my 89 with an H pipe because if I have issues with smog in the future I wanna make sure I don't spend too much on replacing all that ****. Cali smog law are a pain in the ***.

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You can add a cat to long tubes, I've seen people do it. But is pointless as far as I know. Either way you won't pass visual on Smog with long tube headers. From what my smog guy said. Another reason why I'm going Shorty BBK
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Old 11-18-2011, 01:45 PM   #20
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Re: Long tube vs shortys

then how do people get away with long tubed headers on their cars? Should i just slip someone who works at the dmv a $100 bill? Haha
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Nah man, what State are you in? You need a smog guy! LOL, California got some bull**** *** laws, but every state is different.
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Old 11-18-2011, 02:19 PM   #22
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Re: Long tube vs shortys

with the v6 longtubes, would a gt catted h pipe bolt up? ive got to retain at least a set of cats on it, and plan on using a flowmaster exhaust out the end.
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So I have a 98 v6, and I'm looking to do this too, but I've heard/read that the 3.8L had an even firing sequence so it does not need an h or x pipe. One would just do unconnected pipes to each muffler. What do you guys know about our think about this?
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Old 11-18-2011, 03:53 PM   #24
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with the v6 longtubes, would a gt catted h pipe bolt up? ive got to retain at least a set of cats on it, and plan on using a flowmaster exhaust out the end.
I believe you'd still need to use a true dual exaust converter H or X pipe such as PaceSetter V6 Mustang Dual Exhaust Adapter Kit (99-04 V6) at AmericanMuscle.com - Free Shipping!.

If i'm wrong someone correct me... no hard feelings haha
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Old 11-18-2011, 05:05 PM   #25
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Re: Long tube vs shortys

I'm with willrad00 on that one, you should prob use an X or H even with a V-6, but I feel bad for you guys that have to worry bout the smog man, here in Kentucky we run what we want and I'm so thankful for that lol
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I'm still debating on just running divorced duals and just putting cats between the header and muffler on each side.
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I'm in TX, and I dont worry about emissions.... I got people! Lol!

Just emailed MAC about running LTs on a 98. I think it probly can be done. It's just a matter of attachment points and fab-ing an exhaust.
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I envy yall in Kentucky Dancobra75!!! I have people that hook me up too, but is always a headache. If the boys pull you over and your pony sounds some what loud them ******** will pop your hood and get you on everything! Bored *** cops man. I've been sent tos Refs a.few times and they get you on everything.
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Just pulled this here from the M.E. article on v6's. (sticky thread)

" We have an even firing engine so we don’t benefit from equalizing the pressure in two exhaust pipes with an x or h pipe.... ... You can have a shop cut your Y pipe behind the converters and weld 2 straight pipes to a set of GT take-offs...." or whatever exhaust you want/have.
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Old 11-18-2011, 07:44 PM   #30
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Re: Long tube vs shortys

The very first mustang I owned was an 86 GT 5 speed black, and it exhaust was no cats, 3 inch duels to factory muffs and tail pipes, no H or X pipe, and I owned the small town of mount sterling for months with that car, it was prob the fastest basically stock fox that I've ever owned, so maybe it isn't so important to have an X or H pipe, it didn't and ran like a scalded dog lol

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Ok, well that little 86 fox did benefit from a set of 410s out back lol, I forgot about that haha
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