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Old 10-25-2007, 11:45 PM   #1
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V6 vs. Cobalt SS

hey v6 mustang guys, I was just wondering what yall thought about a v6 mustang with bolt ons against a cobalt ss. I have cold air, intake spacer, UD pulleys, exhaust, and wires. I beat my buddies GT but it was a convt. and an auto. We did a 40 roll and raced till about 100 and I beat him but a whole car. Let me know what yall think about the race against the cobalt ss thanks.
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Re: V6 vs. Cobalt SS

seeing even a stock GT can make short work of even mildly modded Slobalts, and you took a GT already, you *should* have no trouble.

Cobalts arent as easy to mod like say, a SRT4 or the like. Motor isnt that well designed (IE cant do 500whp untouched like a SRT4/4g63,etc). even pullied and tuned cobalts will get slapped around by stock srt4's (which is pretty sad for the Cobalts). So if said Cobalt is modded, he still likely wont be a threat.
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Re: V6 vs. Cobalt SS

and what year gt did you beat? had an 08 cobalt try to do a fly on me in second. Was actually kinda nice, got to hear the whine and all. I just stabbed the peddle and was gone. granted I have a gt, but I dont see a bolt-on 6er having too much of a problem. Will be a decent race, but you should start to pull eventually.
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Re: V6 vs. Cobalt SS

There are different levels of Cobalt SS's one is just a 2.4L NA engine and the other is a supercharged 2.0L motor. The supercharged one runs a possible~ mid 14 stock so... you wont have enough steam for that one if he can drive.
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Re: V6 vs. Cobalt SS

Is the Cobalt SS supercharged? The supercharged SS's make significantly more power and are significantly quicker than their non-supercharged counterpart...

non-supercharged cobalt SS you will beat hands down...supercharged SS will be a lot closer and depend a lot more on driver and the type of racing you are doing, i.e. roll/dig/etc.
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Re: V6 vs. Cobalt SS

Thanks for everybodies opinions and the GT I beat was an 02 and yes the supercharged cobalt
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Re: V6 vs. Cobalt SS

I know, or am pretty sure, Kyle on here has run a supercharges cobalt as one of his buddies moved into one from his V6. Kyle has the basic boltons and a custom tune. I'm not sure what the results are...maybe he can chime in when he gets off work.

I know I beat that same cobalt in a 3rd gear roll from 20 mph and about 2/3rds throttle...but I don't really count much.
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Re: V6 vs. Cobalt SS

when we ran from a low rolls and digs i would hold him off till around 85-90.........then the awesome top end of the v6 comes into play. he put about 1-2 cars from 90-115. they dont walk away fast, but they do walk.


i've always wanted to run a gt vert but never had the chance. i've run the auto coupes which are a couple hundred pounds lighter. when i've run those gt's with just boltons, the result is always the same. i would either jump in front or hold even till around 90, then get a couple cars put on me. i know i can beat a vert. one instance i've run a stock auto gt and held him door to door until 120



but anyway, what will happen is this: you will jump in front and hold till around 90 then he will creep past you. it will piss you off very much b/c it wont be a hard walk, it will be a really slow creep
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Re: V6 vs. Cobalt SS

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vids of the race in this thread...............would be better if the chase car (bolt on v6 mustang) could keep the **** up
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vids of the race in this thread...............would be better if the chase car (bolt on v6 mustang) could keep the **** up
Yeah, this race will definitely show the difference between a tuned and untuned V6. lol
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Old 10-27-2007, 08:02 AM   #11
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Re: V6 vs. Cobalt SS

so would the one when i raced the spec v

also, i though all ss cobalts were s/c..............isnt that what makes them the "ss", otherwise, they would just be a two door cobalt right?
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Re: V6 vs. Cobalt SS

no thats wrong my g/f has a SS that is not supercharged and they come with 170 hp at the crank instead of the SS S/C that has like 205 and the base model that has i think like 150 or something
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Re: V6 vs. Cobalt SS

i have not bought a hand held tuner yet do you recommend it or buying 3.73 gears & t-lok for my car?
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Re: V6 vs. Cobalt SS

Hey

I have a 4.0 v6 2005 mustang
my bro got me one of those chips that plug into your IAT sensor, well i have looked all over the place for that sensor but dont know which one it is, If any one knows anything, help me out.
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i have not bought a hand held tuner yet do you recommend it or buying 3.73 gears & t-lok for my car?

i recommend all those
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I have a 4.0 v6 2005 mustang
my bro got me one of those chips that plug into your IAT sensor, well i have looked all over the place for that sensor but dont know which one it is, If any one knows anything, help me out.

try looking under the steering column or behind the kick panel
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try looking under the steering column or behind the kick panel
Why would the intake air temperature sensor be under the steering column or kick panel?
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Re: V6 vs. Cobalt SS

oh, my bad...............all i read was ".......chip.......looking........."
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oh, my bad...............all i read was ".......chip.......looking........."
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Re: V6 vs. Cobalt SS

Wow The Iat Sensor Should Be Own The Intake Tube Itself.lol Under The Steering Column That Funny. It Should Be Right Own The Side Of The Intake. Mine Is It Just Alittle Two Prong Plug.it Has To Be Own The Tube To Read The Temp. Those Chips Dont Really Do Alot It Supposed To Read Colder Air But It Really Dosent Maybe Good For 1-2 Hp But Better Than Nothing I Guess. I Have A 96 3.8 So Idk Where Yours Would Be Maybe Closer To The Maf Sensor If It Newer So Maybe Look Near The Maf But It Has To Be Own The Intake Itself.
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Re: V6 vs. Cobalt SS

they integrated the iat into the maf for some reason on the v6's
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Re: V6 vs. Cobalt SS

I put one of these resitor chips on mine. I notice a little more than 1 or 2 hp. But then again that was the first time I opened up my rebuilt engine to full throttle too.
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Re: V6 vs. Cobalt SS

WHo sings that song and what is it called?
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I put one of these resitor chips on mine. I notice a little more than 1 or 2 hp. But then again that was the first time I opened up my rebuilt engine to full throttle too.
you can notice 1 or 2 horsepower? Damn...that's a real sensitive buttometer....or was that on the dyno?
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Re: V6 vs. Cobalt SS

I noticed A litte MORE THAN 1 or 2 horse power. i would say probably 15, but That includes my fresh rebuilt mini big bore engine. (big bore-just next size to get to freh block)
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I noticed A litte MORE THAN 1 or 2 horse power. i would say probably 15, but That includes my fresh rebuilt mini big bore engine. (big bore-just next size to get to freh block)
Ok, that makes more sense...and yeah, none of that came from a resistor deal.
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Re: V6 vs. Cobalt SS

your probably right. a 232 to ~ a 240 could add ten horses. Am I right on size?
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