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Old 12-18-2011, 11:06 AM   #1
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why such little hp in 3.8?

I just had a question on why the 3.8 have less than 200?
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It's a v6 made in 2000 on year before and u wouldn't even have that were lucky to have the spit port
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They were there for sales but add a couple parts and make it fun
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I was just wondering why though
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Ok well let's say you add a Windstar and dual exhaust to a stock mustang makes the stock number around 220 to 230 and the gt have only 260
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I don't think just that adds that much?
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Old 12-18-2011, 03:13 PM   #7
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Well its not at wheels but at start yes around that much
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He's right because I have true dual and a cai pushin around 220 horses..and its not like they were alot under 200hp they come stock with 198 which is actually pretty decent
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That 198 is flywheel HP, 20-30% is lost through the driveline on average.
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Yea specially if u drive auto.... So ur telling me with cai and duals I'll be sitting at ab 220 in my 02 3.8???? This seems a bit much
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Not at wheels though
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Old 12-18-2011, 10:26 PM   #12
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Yea I get that I had a ford 3.0 ranger ran it on the dyno did ab 165 then true duals cold air ran it again and only gained five
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Yea I get that I had a ford 3.0 ranger ran it on the dyno did ab 165 then true duals cold air ran it again and only gained five
Yes thats at the flywheel..but im sorry that its an auto < manual
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Yes thats at the flywheel..but im sorry that its an auto < manual
No mines not I have a five speed and yea ik that's at the flywheel I did the math lol I did this at my auto school
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What the easiest way to gain hp for cheap I already put on a cai and am going to get high flow cats cause mine are ****
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A tuner should be one of the first things you get when you first start modding!...
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Re: why such little hp in 3.8?

Cold air intake and exhaust you would be lucky to make 170rwhp on an SAE-5 dynojet
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Well the exhaust for sound and the Cai for looks and better mpg. A tuner to combine and make that air fuel levels better.
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Re: why such little hp in 3.8?

because its old tech, back in the day when that motor came out it was not bad, when it first came to the Mustang in 94 it had 150hp, not horrible for the market then, in 99 it got a bump to something better~ just part of it... if you really think about it the 5.0 back in 94/95 had 215hp.... ha
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Re: why such little hp in 3.8?

I had to do a **** load of mods just to get in the low 16's with my stang.....lol
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because its old tech, back in the day when that motor came out it was not bad, when it first came to the Mustang in 94 it had 150hp, not horrible for the market then, in 99 it got a bump to something better~ just part of it... if you really think about it the 5.0 back in 94/95 had 215hp.... ha
Haha holy crap I knew it was low but not that low
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Re: why such little hp in 3.8?

because its not built to be a performance engine , its for getting groceries and getting to work ,what 70% of Mustangs are ....
just feel sorry for the old 2.3 Stangs ,they only had like a 100 or so horses ....
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because its old tech, back in the day when that motor came out it was not bad, when it first came to the Mustang in 94 it had 150hp, not horrible for the market then, in 99 it got a bump to something better~ just part of it... if you really think about it the 5.0 back in 94/95 had 215hp.... ha
215!!!!! I thought they had 285. Son of a b**** I feel cheated.
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My dads first car was an 89 5.0 he told me it had 230
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My dads first car was an 89 5.0 he told me it had 230
They were rated @ 225 but close enough lol
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Right on must be lucky to be 16 with a brand new 5.0 it had .9 miles on it when he got it
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Right on must be lucky to be 16 with a brand new 5.0 it had .9 miles on it when he got it
Damn right!!!! I had a 86 5.0 T-Bird as my first car but it was non HO, I thought it was the shizzz lol
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Re: why such little hp in 3.8?

i'm sad at reading some of the posts here....some very misinformed people....and some right on the money.

@OP...to answer your question without trying to say "add this add that to gain hp"...i'm going to tell you fords reason for the low hp....our cars were not meant to be fast high hp cars...they already had the cobra and GTs for that..no our cars were made so that people could have a car that looked really nice, but was an economy DD. Smart decision on Fords part
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Re: why such little hp in 3.8?

Think about it, if they made the 3.8 up to par in terms of rwhp as the GT then one of the two wouldn't sell. Yes they could have easily made it have the same power and easily at that. Also I don't care who says what, these cars stock made 190 at the crank, rwhp was between 150-160 depending if you had an auto or stick. Minus the exception of the 04's that had a whole 3 hp more....
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Re: why such little hp in 3.8?

Correction 99&00 had 190 and 01-04 had 193 ratings thanks to the introduction of imrc's
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Correction 99&00 had 190 and 01-04 had 193 ratings thanks to the introduction of imrc's
and half of 2004 had another 3 hp on top of that thanks to being a 239 instead of a 231
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Re: why such little hp in 3.8?

If that's the case is was never advertised anywhere I saw
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If that's the case is was never advertised anywhere I saw
lol look harder...because if i can find it i know you can. i mean it's not anything to brag about...hell it's not enough to be a viable difference...but all the same gotta love it

edit: just wondering really fast what you're referring to not advertised....the 239 part or what
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Re: why such little hp in 3.8?

The hp increase advertisement, I know they became 3.9 motors...... Ford never released anything saying that it made more power even though common sense tells you increase in displacement means more power to it....
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