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Old 01-24-2012, 11:23 PM   #1
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cat back sounds the best?

IM looking for a bolt on cat back for my v6 and was wondering which ones you guys prefer for the money?
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http://www.americanmuscle.com/flowma...ck-9904v6.html

But your best best bet is to do divorced true duals, it'll be around the same price
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Re: cat back sounds the best?

You can go to youtube to listen to a variety of systems. Flowmaster has FM 40's FM10's, FM44's. Spintech, Borla, Magnaflow, Cherry Bomb Extreme, Pro. Thrush Welded.
I ran divorced duals. 2.25" pipe ran back to 2.5" mufflers and then out to tailpipes. Flowmaster 10 Series mufflers.
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Re: cat back sounds the best?

I'm partial to "MagnaFlow".
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I have true duals and they sound great! However i would like to add the Flowmater44 mufflers on, not a big fan of the cheap run throughs i have on now.
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I was just looking af prices for bolt on catbacks and if you have any. I've checked out the ones at American muscle many times. I was just wondering cause now I jar access to 3 lifts and that would be a easy mod. If I took it to the local muffler shop it would be around 600 for a catback with whatever mufflers I want
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The new universal borla turbo mufflers sound killer
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600 is a bit expensive id go with flow master, but magna flow is also a good choice
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600 is a bit expensive id go with flow master, but magna flow is also a good choice
I'll try to talk him down but he said it would be around there maybe he'd go to 550

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How much did you all pay for your catbacks?
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Haha 100 bucks off of a customers car who wanted to swap in an irs
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I'll try to talk him down but he said it would be around there maybe he'd go to 550
Yeah thats a good idea! Are you only getting a cat back? Go with true duals it sounds sweeet!
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Does this car have a cai and if so which one
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I got mine parts and installed 200
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You can go to youtube to listen to a variety of systems. Flowmaster has FM 40's FM10's, FM44's. Spintech, Borla, Magnaflow, Cherry Bomb Extreme, Pro. Thrush Welded.
I ran divorced duals. 2.25" pipe ran back to 2.5" mufflers and then out to tailpipes. Flowmaster 10 Series mufflers.
yours sounds killer i want that. all the other vids i have seen on 40s are ****ty. i have a 40 on now so i could use that one and another one to keep the price down

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Does this car have a cai and if so which one
mine does, $75 at american muscle
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yours sounds killer i want that. all the other vids i have seen on 40s are ****ty. i have a 40 on now so i could use that one and another one to keep the price down

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mine does, $75 at american muscle
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how much did you pay to get everything installed?
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how much did you pay to get everything installed?
I already had the FM tailpipes ($100.00).
The FM 10 Series mufflers were $69.00 a piece. Itook them with me and he cut out the "Y" pipe and ran 2.25" straight pipe to mufflers, installed hangers, connected to tailpipes for $200.00 parts/labor.
-I live in a very expensive ares, some places will cost much less.

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I am VERY seriously planing on using one Flowmaster 10 Series muffler and one CherryBomb Extreme muffler in couple of weeks when I re-do it cause I need new cats, and adding the ProChamber.
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Re: cat back sounds the best?

In order to avoid wasting a lot of money and being disappointed in what you end up with, do A LOT OF RESEARCH!

I probably watched just about every v6 mustang video on youtube at least once, some of then maybe 10 times before I made a decision on what to buy. I ended up getting the EXACT sound I desired. The only thing that would have made me happier is if everything was FREE! HA!

Catback was $379, Midpipe was $295, Headers were $50, Install was $200. Total cost was $924. It seems like a lot of money, but I bought things one piece at a time as I could afford them, then had it all installed at once.
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Re: cat back sounds the best?

so as i was about to talk to my local exhaust shop, i got a notice in the letter for smog that means i got to repair 2 of the 4 cats on my car
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so as i was about to talk to my local exhaust shop, i got a notice in the letter for smog that means i got to repair 2 of the 4 cats on my car
Quickest, easiest way to accomplish that is to bolt on one of these-


Smog/emmissions leagal. No cutting out 4-6 cats. Just bolt it on.
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If I run 3in pipe from the cat to the mufflers, then out the side with 4in tips... would that be too wide open making it sound ricey?
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Soooo go 2.5 to the mufflers then 3 out the side?
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Quickest, easiest way to accomplish that is to bolt on one of these-


Smog/emmissions leagal. No cutting out 4-6 cats. Just bolt it on.
This is exactly what i have on my car. 99-04 MUSTANG V6 EXHAUST X-PIPE W/ CATS

This will NOT be a direct bolt on. SOME ASSEMBLY REQUIRED!

Mine was made rather poorly, the rear O2 sensor ports are mislocated causing the O2 sensors to actually point towards the ground !!! The front O2 sensor ports are too far away from the engine electronics and required additional wires to be soldered into the O2 sensor leads in order to plug them in. I hacked apart the rear O2 sensors and cannibalized wires to make the extensions. My rear O2 sensors were disabled by BAMA prior to installation.

The overall length of this X-pipe was too long which required me to cut 2-3 inches out of the catback pipes in order to clear the rear axles. I had to weld my catback on because there wasn't enough material left at the mufflers to clamp onto. To me this was not an issue because I had intended to weld it anyway, HOWEVER, for those that prefer to use clamps, you may lose that option after performing the necessary cutting.

I LOVE the sound, but I do not recommend this X-pipe to anyone without some good soldering and welding skills. If you do not have the skills and the facility to accomplish the necessary modifications YOURSELF, it will probably be cost prohibitive to buy this pipe, and then pay to have a shop do the rest of the "fitting".

Again, this is NOT a "plug n play" product.
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Quickest, easiest way to accomplish that is to bolt on one of these-

Smog/emmissions leagal. No cutting out 4-6 cats. Just bolt it on.
I can't I live in california
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This is exactly what i have on my car. 99-04 MUSTANG V6 EXHAUST X-PIPE W/ CATS

This will NOT be a direct bolt on. SOME ASSEMBLY REQUIRED!

Mine was made rather poorly, the rear O2 sensor ports are mislocated causing the O2 sensors to actually point towards the ground !!! The front O2 sensor ports are too far away from the engine electronics and required additional wires to be soldered into the O2 sensor leads in order to plug them in. I hacked apart the rear O2 sensors and cannibalized wires to make the extensions. My rear O2 sensors were disabled by BAMA prior to installation.

The overall length of this X-pipe was too long which required me to cut 2-3 inches out of the catback pipes in order to clear the rear axles. I had to weld my catback on because there wasn't enough material left at the mufflers to clamp onto. To me this was not an issue because I had intended to weld it anyway, HOWEVER, for those that prefer to use clamps, you may lose that option after performing the necessary cutting.

I LOVE the sound, but I do not recommend this X-pipe to anyone without some good soldering and welding skills. If you do not have the skills and the facility to accomplish the necessary modifications YOURSELF, it will probably be cost prohibitive to buy this pipe, and then pay to have a shop do the rest of the "fitting".

Again, this is NOT a "plug n play" product.
Where did you get it? Manufacturer? Sounds like what is expected for most installs. O2 extenders are normal. Some fabing of pipe can be expected.
****, BBK LT headers and their own mid-pipe REARLY lines up, made by the same company. Some "direct bolt ons" require lifting the engine to install headers. Nothing is ever easy, is it??
Magnaflow sells one of these, mandrelexhaustsystems sells them, and Pypes sells one of these pictured. Which one did you buy?? Please. Thanks for helping with the info too, very valuable stuff!
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Where did you get it? Manufacturer? Sounds like what is expected for most installs. O2 extenders are normal. Some fabing of pipe can be expected.
****, BBK LT headers and their own mid-pipe REARLY lines up, made by the same company. Some "direct bolt ons" require lifting the engine to install headers. Nothing is ever easy, is it??
Magnaflow sells one of these, mandrelexhaustsystems sells them, and Pypes sells one of these pictured. Which one did you buy?? Please. Thanks for helping with the info too, very valuable stuff!
Robb, mine is from Mandrel, as the link shows. If you read their product description it clearly says:

Our x-pipes are designed to fit perfectly in the stock location. It is a complete bolt on, no modifications needed. This x-pipe comes with two high-flow catalytic converters. There are pre-threaded holes for all O2 sensors in the stock locations.

Although there are no modifications needed to install this x-pipe, it will only work with a dual exhaust system. Essentially, this x-pipe eliminates the factory y-pipe and allows for a true-dual exhaust system to be installed on your V6 Mustang. You can use any catback exhaust designed for use on 99-04 models, weather its a Factory/OEM exhaust or aftermarket exhaust.

Our x-pipes are made from 14 gauge, aluminized steel with a tube diameter of 2.5 inch, mandrel bent for maximum airflow. Each pipe includes all flanges and hardware and can be used with headers or factory equipment. The High Flow Catalytic Converters on this unit are made by Magnaflow and are 49 State EPA OBD-II Street Legal (not for use in CA).

Average install time is 1-2 hours. We designed our x-pipes to achieve balanced scavenging for maximum horsepower. The sections at the "X" do connect to each other. Horsepower gains vary depending on the level of modification you already have with your vehicle. Average gains are usually 10-15 HP increase. The sound of our x-pipe is low and deep, without rasp.


I highlighted the misleading crap from their product literature... any time someone advertises a product as being a direct bolt in, I should not have to butcher a new catback to get parts to clear. It says that the O2 ports are in "stock location" however if this were the case I wouldn't require extenders... The pictures show the the rear O2 ports being horizontal, in reality mine were pointing at 5:00 and 7:00 respectively. Also, the bolts provided to bolt the two pieces together at the X were an inch too long and the nuts included were the wrong thread diameter. Thankfully I had some grade 8 bolts and nuts on the shelf that were the right size. I just expected something less complicated I guess...
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Re: cat back sounds the best?

if anyone has the MAC, Magnaflow, flowmaster or pypes bolt on cat back please tell me if your pleased with it or not and what i need to get if i buy one.
im thinking about getting the MAC one
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if anyone has the MAC, Magnaflow, flowmaster or pypes bolt on cat back please tell me if your pleased with it or not and what i need to get if i buy one.
im thinking about getting the MAC one
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I'm thinking the mac cause its cheapest
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Great points regarding the mid-pipe from Mendrel- that's alot of mis-spoken BS adjustments to have made for it to function.
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do you have one of them?

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if anyone has the MAC, Magnaflow, flowmaster or pypes bolt on cat back please tell me if your pleased with it or not and what i need to get if i buy one.
I linked my catback and the exhaust bracket hanger kit that I used when I went to true duals. You could also just buy individual brackets from Ford, or get used ones from a GT. Either way, you will need hangers.

The setup in the video is what I have in my signature... PaceSetter shorty headers, Mandrel Exhaust Systems X-pipe, and Flowmaster catback.
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