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02-27-2012, 08:56 AM
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Im cutting my springs right now and wanna know how much Is good, anyone know?
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02-27-2012, 09:06 AM
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Always herd one complete coil. Never done it so idk really.
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02-27-2012, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Surffer227 Im cutting my springs right now and wanna know how much Is good, anyone know? | Like chop some off?
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02-27-2012, 09:28 AM
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Yea, I was thinkin like half a coil or somethin, but I was wondering the coil to inch drop ratio lol if there is even one
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02-27-2012, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Surffer227 Yea, I was thinkin like half a coil or somethin, but I was wondering the coil to inch drop ratio lol if there is even one | Idk the drop ratio but I would recommend to not do it. My friend did tht and was the bumpiest ride ever. He regrets doing that but it made his car lower
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02-27-2012, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Venomouz831
Idk the drop ratio but I would recommend to not do it. My friend did tht and was the bumpiest ride ever. He regrets doing that but it made his car lower | +11. Save your cash and get an actual drop springs!..
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02-27-2012, 10:25 AM
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Ppl cut springs everyday.
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02-27-2012, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by deadsp0t Ppl cut springs everyday. | People also do a lot of stupid things. Cutting the springs can weaken them. You can find a cheap set of springs for like $120 if you look around.
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02-27-2012, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Las0mbra
People also do a lot of stupid things. Cutting the springs can weaken them. You can find a cheap set of springs for like $120 if you look around. | Yea don't cut springs it will f up ure suspension
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02-27-2012, 10:48 AM
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Whatev... Seen cars run 5.0000 in the 1/8 on cut springs. Never said it was the best option, it's really not that serious. I'd cut springs before I ran cheap knock offs any day.
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02-27-2012, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by deadsp0t Whatev... Seen cars run 5.0000 in the 1/8 on cut springs. Never said it was the best option, it's really not that serious. I'd cut springs before I ran cheap knock offs any day. | Never said you couldn't just saying its not gonna be a good ride at all.
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02-27-2012, 11:13 AM
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I'm pretty sure this was on last weeks episode of car warriors. They said if you were going to do it, do it at most a quarter coil at a time
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02-27-2012, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by deadsp0t Whatev... Seen cars run 5.0000 in the 1/8 on cut springs. Never said it was the best option, it's really not that serious. I'd cut springs before I ran cheap knock offs any day. | You can get a good set of Eibachs or a set from Steeda for about $150!..
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02-27-2012, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Eturner
You can get a good set of Eibachs or a set from Steeda for about $150!.. | Yup got my maxspeed for 140
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02-27-2012, 11:48 AM
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I did my springs for giggles. Started with a 1/4 at a time and ended up doing one full coil. Don't let the spring get to hot when cutting. Gave about 1.5-1.7" drop. Noticed no difference in handling and had no issues. I did however order dropzone springs before I cut. I heard so many stories good and bad about cutting springs. I had no problems, just wanted to see what all the fuss was about. If you don't have money for springs, theyre not expensive, then you can cut your springs for a temporary drop. I would still look into getting a set of springs. ---------- Post added at 02:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:47 PM ---------- Quote: |
Originally Posted by shaqfu | Different weight for the convertibles.
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02-27-2012, 11:54 AM
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thats what i thought, lighter weight engine + less weight with no hard top = wont drop as much,,,with that in mind, is any spring better for convertible drop?
I am getting new larger wheels soon (17 x 9 vs 16 in stock), and wanted to drop 1.5 inches also. so i wanted to make sure. Going to have my local guy do a dual exhaust (adding another flowmaster 44) and install springs at same time.
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02-27-2012, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by shaqfu thats what i thought, lighter weight engine + less weight with no hard top = wont drop as much,,,with that in mind, is any spring better for convertible drop?
I am getting new larger wheels soon (17 x 9 vs 16 in stock), and wanted to drop 1.5 inches also. so i wanted to make sure. Going to have my local guy do a dual exhaust (adding another flowmaster 44) and install springs at same time. | If I'm not mistaken the vert wieghs more than the coupe, extra bracing and supports to make up for the lack of a roof.
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02-27-2012, 12:31 PM
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interesting....google is probably my friend on that question... Let me google that for you
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02-27-2012, 12:34 PM
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The Ford springs are the best for money. Cheaper and are made for mustang and no need to change out other parts maybe at most shocks
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02-27-2012, 01:07 PM
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Cut half a coil on the front and didnt notice much, doing the rear tomarow, another half on the front is a possibility, just don't Realy feel like taking it apart again.. Haha
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02-27-2012, 10:36 PM
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1 - 1 1/2 coils on the front, 1 coil in back. That's what i usually hear people are running. They won't hurt your suspension horribly either so just go for it.
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02-28-2012, 12:29 PM
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Just cut a full coil in the rear and it looks great. Rides fine, no rubbing, and I have 18"s. only did half a coil on the front, so I kinda have a Cali drop goin haha, I might do more on the front tomaro, but I'm not sure if I should do another full coil for 1 1/2 up front or just another 1/2 coil and make it even with the back, anyone know how much camber I can get out of the stock bolts, without buying the plate or kit? Just incase I get a rubbing issue.
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02-28-2012, 12:46 PM
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A full coil drops between 1.6 and 2 inches, you will need plates or camber bolts as your camber will be off by about 1 degree. Don't skimp on this because you will wear your tires unevenly. I just ruined a set of brand new tires this way. So now I'm buying all new tires, and the eibach camber bolts which will give enough adjustment to get everything back to normal. The bolts only run about 30 bucks on American muscle, much cheaper than two new tires will cost you.
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02-28-2012, 12:52 PM
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I would never cut a coil spring , supposedly the rides harsh ,but the real problem is your weakening the spring overall witch will lead to other suspension issues in the future ...........
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02-28-2012, 12:52 PM
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Its also a very good idea to replace your shocks and struts if they have any kind of miles on them after a drop like this.
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02-28-2012, 01:13 PM
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Can't I just get smaller bolts from like homedepot or something? Obviously the same strength, and my springs ride fine so far.
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02-28-2012, 01:29 PM
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If your going to do some thing do it right!.. Don't get some homedepot S*** and think it's all going to be ok!.. Plus personally I would never think of cutting the springs!.. I've known to many who did that and ended up being sorry they did!.. The stock springs are designed to ride at a certain hight, and for good reason, just get some actual drop springs!.. There are several companies out there that make great drop springs, for almost any hight you want!..
Don't be in such a rush that you are taking cheap easy shortcuts to building your ride!.. You'll be much happier in the end, plus you might not be spending some of your hard earned cash fixing one of those cheap shortcuts you took!..
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02-28-2012, 01:34 PM
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Already did it, and don't regret it, I want advise from people who did it, or know what their talking about, not people who herd it's a bad idea...
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02-28-2012, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Surffer227 Already did it, and don't regret it, I want advise from people who did it, or know what their talking about, not people who herd it's a bad idea... | First off I know it to be a bad idea because I've known several people that did it!.. One guy his car started riding at a weird angle, like stated before, cutting the springs weakens them!.. This is not hearsay!.. This is a fact!.. Each coil on your springs is wound in such a manor to, one keep the vehicle ridding at a certain hight, and two, to bear a certain amount of load, or weight!.. When you cut off a coil or more you drastically change that!..
Take your time and build it right!.. Use the right parts the right way and you'll be happier in the end!..
Growing up I've known too many guys building their own cars!.. One guy spent nearly ten years building his car!.. When he was done I asked him why did it take you so long to build it?.. He said because he wanted to do it only once and to do it right!.. He didn't take any shortcuts!.. Some others took shortcuts and ended up spending more cash fixing alot of those shortcuts!..
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02-28-2012, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Eturner
First off I know it to be a bad idea because I've known several people that did it!.. One guy his car started riding at a weird angle, like stated before, cutting the springs weakens them!.. This is not hearsay!.. This is a fact!.. Each coil on your springs is wound in such a manor to, one keep the vehicle ridding at a certain hight, and two, to bear a certain amount of load, or weight!.. When you cut off a coil or more you drastically change that!..
Take your time and build it right!.. Use the right parts the right way and you'll be happier in the end!..
Growing up I've known too many guys building their own cars!.. One guy spent nearly ten years building his car!.. When he was done I asked him why did it take you so long to build it?.. He said because he wanted to do it only once and to do it right!.. He didn't take any shortcuts!.. Some others took shortcuts and ended up spending more cash fixing alot of those shortcuts!.. | The springs are cut already.
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02-28-2012, 02:57 PM
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This is always gonna be a controversial topic. I've cut springs in the past and I've used lowering springs as well, I've even got a set of fully adjustable coil overs on my 240sx! One pro I can say about cut springs is you never hear the thump of your spring coils smacking together when you go over hard bumps like you do with lowered springs. Lowered springs coils are just too close together on some applications. I'm just a lyrical Gangsta and that's how I roll. You'll learn that.
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02-28-2012, 03:20 PM
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Don't do it. SONICPONY03 has a great set up you should look at his profile pictures
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02-28-2012, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by primer2tone This is always gonna be a controversial topic. I've cut springs in the past and I've used lowering springs as well, I've even got a set of fully adjustable coil overs on my 240sx! One pro I can say about cut springs is you never hear the thump of your spring coils smacking together when you go over hard bumps like you do with lowered springs. Lowered springs coils are just too close together on some applications. I'm just a lyrical Gangsta and that's how I roll. You'll learn that.  | I have 2" drop springs and they don't smack together.
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02-28-2012, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 93slowstang
I have 2" drop springs and they don't smack together. | I had a 1.5" drop on my Monte and they didn't smack together or anything like that!.. Perhaps he got bad set or something!..
But still I would rather go with some actual drop springs vs cutting the them!.. There's just to many things that can go wrong with cutting them that can make for some bad Mojo!!... Lol
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