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05-02-2012, 07:03 AM
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#1 | | A.K.A. Baby-D!
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| thinking about buy a project stang... need advice!
Well, truth is, i miss my new edge. a friend of mine has one on their used lot that they are selling for $500. interior is damn near perfect. exterior needs paint bad. new alternator, AC compressor, and a few other parts that i can't think of off hand. BUT the engine is dead.
here is my thoughts.. buy the car and primer it (temporary) and replace the engine to have a daily driver and keep the 2011 parked.
here is where i need the advice:
1. Its an original V6. do i replace with another 3.8 since it has some new parts under the hood or do i part out whats there and start over with a whole new beast? engine, tranny, etc?
2. if i start with a whole different engine, which engine would you choose?
3. should i ditch the daily driver idea, and turn this baby into a drag strip beast?
keep in mind, with a new car in the garage, funds are limited so the more expensive the project, the longer it will take (which is fine either way)
just wanted to know what you guys would do in this situation... I'm pretty sure i'm buying the car either way, since i can part it out for more than $500 regardless and make money on it.
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05-02-2012, 07:18 AM
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#2 | | Moddin' ain't easy...
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Buy it. Part it out. Scrap the rest. Get swag for your new V6.
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05-02-2012, 07:30 AM
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If you don't mind dd ing your new 6 I say go beast mode with it.
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05-02-2012, 09:25 AM
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#4 | | A.K.A. Baby-D!
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Originally Posted by primer2tone Buy it. Part it out. Scrap the rest. Get swag for your new V6. | That's also a thought. What kind of profit could I expect from parting it out? ---------- Post added at 10:25 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:24 AM ---------- Quote: |
Originally Posted by dreamstang If you don't mind dd ing your new 6 I say go beast mode with it. | Which engine would u throw in?
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05-02-2012, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 04TRV6
That's also a thought. What kind of profit could I expect from parting it out? | You could at least double it. You could probably get $400-$500 from selling the wheels and tires alone granted they're in decent shape. Then sell each seat for $100, then electronics, part out fenders and doors, then the engine parts that are salvageable along with wiring harness. Then trailer the chassis to a scrap yard and get paid for the metal.
If you wanted to build it and didn't want to go back to the v6 it originally came with then I'd drop anythig I wanted in it since you'll have to get a new wiring harness, tranny, clutch, and driveshaft anyway. If I went this way I'd drop an ls1 in it and cam it. It'd be a fun car. (I know ima get flamed for this. Haha)
Or just pull that engine and get a used sizer of the same kind and have a nice DD.
All the options have their perks.
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05-02-2012, 09:31 AM
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| Re: thinking about buy a project stang... need advice!
and if ur gonna drop a new engine in it do not get another 3.8 cause they are just way underpowered and slow... drop a 4.6, but then again you would need alot of stuff to complament with the newer bigger engine...
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05-02-2012, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ColeJohnson
You could at least double it. You could probably get $400-$500 from selling the wheels and tires alone granted they're in decent shape. Then sell each seat for $100, then electronics, part out fenders and doors, then the engine parts that are salvageable along with wiring harness. Then trailer the chassis to a scrap yard and get paid for the metal. | Yea. I could see a decent profit. But I can also see a decent project. Lol. Oh the decisions. Plus I'd get to save a stang
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05-02-2012, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 04TRV6
Yea. I could see a decent profit. But I can also see a decent project. Lol. Oh the decisions. Plus I'd get to save a stang | Reread my post. I added more.
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05-02-2012, 09:40 AM
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| Re: thinking about buy a project stang... need advice!
put a terminator engine in it
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05-02-2012, 09:47 AM
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If you were gonna swap bigger in, I would look for a wrecked donor car preferably 99 newer. Then you could use the drive train and make one nice car. It would be a lot of work no doubt. While you have the donor tore apart you could build it on a stand over time. Then while budget holds you back you could work on the other stuff. Like wiring, paint prep, etc etc. ---------- Post added at 10:47 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:45 AM ---------- If it only strip car you could also just swap in a pushrod motor and carb it. That would be the easiest and cheapest. Not necessarily the best. But good and fun still.
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05-02-2012, 09:49 AM
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id make it a driver, but just make it a one of a kind at the same time..
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05-02-2012, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Bamman and if ur gonna drop a new engine in it do not get another 3.8 cause they are just way underpowered and slow... drop a 4.6, but then again you would need alot of stuff to complament with the newer bigger engine... | True. But I could part out the old tranny and parts to get some money to put towards the replacements.
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05-02-2012, 10:01 AM
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that would be a solid start.
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05-02-2012, 07:49 PM
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Here's a pic of her
Apparently she was on 20s. She's needs a good rescue
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05-02-2012, 07:55 PM
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looks to be in pretty good shape for that price. you better get that one.
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05-02-2012, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 04TRV6 Well, truth is, i miss my new edge. a friend of mine has one on their used lot that they are selling for $500. interior is damn near perfect. exterior needs paint bad. new alternator, AC compressor, and a few other parts that i can't think of off hand. BUT the engine is dead.
here is my thoughts.. buy the car and primer it (temporary) and replace the engine to have a daily driver and keep the 2011 parked.
here is where i need the advice:
1. Its an original V6. do i replace with another 3.8 since it has some new parts under the hood or do i part out whats there and start over with a whole new beast? engine, tranny, etc?
2. if i start with a whole different engine, which engine would you choose?
3. should i ditch the daily driver idea, and turn this baby into a drag strip beast?
keep in mind, with a new car in the garage, funds are limited so the more expensive the project, the longer it will take (which is fine either way)
just wanted to know what you guys would do in this situation... I'm pretty sure i'm buying the car either way, since i can part it out for more than $500 regardless and make money on it. | I knew you'd come around ---------- Post added at 10:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:56 PM ---------- Quote: |
Originally Posted by 04TRV6 Well, truth is, i miss my new edge. a friend of mine has one on their used lot that they are selling for $500. interior is damn near perfect. exterior needs paint bad. new alternator, AC compressor, and a few other parts that i can't think of off hand. BUT the engine is dead.
here is my thoughts.. buy the car and primer it (temporary) and replace the engine to have a daily driver and keep the 2011 parked.
here is where i need the advice:
1. Its an original V6. do i replace with another 3.8 since it has some new parts under the hood or do i part out whats there and start over with a whole new beast? engine, tranny, etc?
2. if i start with a whole different engine, which engine would you choose?
3. should i ditch the daily driver idea, and turn this baby into a drag strip beast?
keep in mind, with a new car in the garage, funds are limited so the more expensive the project, the longer it will take (which is fine either way)
just wanted to know what you guys would do in this situation... I'm pretty sure i'm buying the car either way, since i can part it out for more than $500 regardless and make money on it. | Sell the 2011 v6, and go get a 2004 terminator cobra
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05-03-2012, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackedout
I knew you'd come around
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Sell the 2011 v6, and go get a 2004 terminator cobra | Oh no
Not sellin the 2011.
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05-03-2012, 06:21 AM
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keep ur 2011 dd, beast the new edge. just my 2 cents. Find a wrecked gt or cobra whatever u stumble upon, and just take ur time with it. part out the v6 and save the funds toward finding a donor.
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05-03-2012, 06:30 AM
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Wow! For 500 that's a good deal! Go get it then part it out!!
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05-03-2012, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Horseplay keep ur 2011 dd, beast the new edge. just my 2 cents. Find a wrecked gt or cobra whatever u stumble upon, and just take ur time with it. part out the v6 and save the funds toward finding a donor. | Hadn't even thought of getting a whole donor car.... but that would def. be the best route and probably the cheapest Quote:
Originally Posted by johnofarch14 Wow! For 500 that's a good deal! Go get it then part it out!! | i think i've decided against parting it out.. i just want a project too bad. lol
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05-03-2012, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 04TRV6
Hadn't even thought of getting a whole donor car.... but that would def. be the best route and probably the cheapest
i think i've decided against parting it out.. i just want a project too bad. lol | Yeah I think someone else mentioned that to. |
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05-03-2012, 06:53 AM
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you wanted a project youve got ur self one my friend.. how many miles does it have?
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05-03-2012, 07:46 AM
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Not sure how many miles just yet haven't seen it in person yet. But I'm skeptical and rethinking it after seeing this picture. That's an expensive area to replace.
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05-03-2012, 08:06 AM
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I think with either of your plans that damage doesn't really affect you to bad. It does suck a little bit. Bit if you get a doner car, you'll want to find one that isn't wrecked in the same area. And if you plan on parting it out I still think there is plenty left for money to be made. The only plan this makes worse is if you were going to rebuild the current motor in it. Because at that point you will need to fix that area out of pocket extra.
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05-03-2012, 09:36 AM
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Dude prime it drop a 5.0 down in her make it a beast perfect project ! Good thing your k member is the same as in the fox body 5.0 and 94-95 5.0 stangs so swap be easier I'd make it carbureted one fire wire distributor up grade cooling and rear end braking suspension WICKED
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05-03-2012, 11:11 AM
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Yea true. That's a big part to change on the body though.
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05-03-2012, 11:16 AM
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i would get a body shop to go over the car as you simply NEVER know what odd things might be lurking on it~ make sure you dont run into something and wish you would have passed on the car to begin with.
I would only put the 3.8L back in it if it was my DD or I was going to flip it
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05-03-2012, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SpectorV i would get a body shop to go over the car as you simply NEVER know what odd things might be lurking on it~ make sure you dont run into something and wish you would have passed on the car to begin with.
I would only put the 3.8L back in it if it was my DD or I was going to flip it | Good advice! Thanks!
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05-03-2012, 06:27 PM
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I'd just upgrade the 2011 v6 then. Gt rear end, supercharge idk upgrade stuff.
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05-03-2012, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackedout I'd just upgrade the 2011 v6 then. Gt rear end, supercharge idk upgrade stuff. | +1. 2011's come with GT rear though. Beast out the 11 and buy some beater car as a DD. That's what I'm doing anyway.
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05-03-2012, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CYCLON37
+1. 2011's come with GT rear though. Beast out the 11 and buy some beater car as a DD. That's what I'm doing anyway. | Damn I have to learn.
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05-03-2012, 07:09 PM
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i think this is basically turning into, what is it that you want and/need. i think you are the only one that can anwser that. you gonna have to look at the damage, resources, and your mechanical abilitys to make the final decision. good luck.
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05-03-2012, 07:29 PM
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He's right
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05-03-2012, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dreamstang i think this is basically turning into, what is it that you want and/need. i think you are the only one that can anwser that. you gonna have to look at the damage, resources, and your mechanical abilitys to make the final decision. good luck. | Thanks
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your welcome. |
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