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Old 05-11-2012, 11:36 PM   #1
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So after looking around for a performance intake manifold and coming up short and seeing the only way to do it is installing part from a windstar I was dissapointed needless to say, so a couple of gear heads and I are going to design a performance intake for the 96-98 mustang, its going to be a direct bolt on using factory hardware.
Factors we need to concider is hood clearence, stock throttle placement, egr and non egr, coolant and sensors.
This is going to be a hell if a project and its going to be a while before we have a working prototype but as we go ill keep this thread updated. Let me know if this is something yall are interested in
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Re: New intake design

NA or FI? Both?
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Um what.......im not good with abbrivations lol, im assuming you mean naturally asperated or fuel injection?
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Re: New intake design

I meant forced induction, such as a turbo or supercharger
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Im a idiot I know them.....now lmao, to that question both

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The FI intake is going to be for a turbo system, problem im seeing is there isnt alot of space in there to play with, but as soon as I can get a design up and a protype system up and running for both ill put up the numbers, ive got a ebay turbo system that ill bolt to it just as mock up, but this build is going to.be using a bbk throttle body and larger injectors, also ill be contacting sct to see if they can help out with a tune for this setup, once this is actually up and going and I can make sure this is going to be durable and isnt going to blow up im really wanting to mass produce this and be able to sell it for a good price cause I dont know bout yall but im not rich.
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Re: New intake design

There is someone on these forums that has a custom made sheet metal intake manifold on their V6... but I can't remember who it is right now. Someone will tell us soon enough...

As for your own intake manifold design, I believe that your best bet would be finding a local shop that can spend some hands-on time doing a dyno tune first. After you have perfected a working design, and move into production for the retail market, that is when you would want to contact SCT or BAMA to provide them with an intake manifold for them to play with. You can't write a tune based on theory... I don't think?

I wholeheartedly applaud your initiative here, because there HAS to be something better than our current choices of Stock or Windstar.
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yes that what part of it, if we build this and dont see more then a 7% gain in power then its not worth it in my mind, i have two spare motors that we are going to be using for testing, once we have a design and it loaded for cnc then we are going to have a shop build it and we will test it from there, im thinking its going to take a good year to build and test and build and test and so on, the one good thing about this is that you will be able to use stock gaskets and sensors and everything, but instead of a two piece design its going to be a single piece intake, there is a shop in town that can cut designs out of wood for prototyping so that we can get it togther and bolt it up and make sure it fits correct and its going to cost a lot less then having it done out of billet
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Re: New intake design

This is what i designed for my car. They're a little old, but it's an idea. 70mm TB and I reused all my parts and deleted the EGR.
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Very nice
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Very nice
I'm thinking about modifing it somewhat and having two different covers. i would like to see how much the overall design of each would effect the overall horsepower.
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The one im designing is a full one piece system which means the plenum and manifold are welded together which should help clean up yhe engine bay but the only thing im running into with my design is that im going to have to design a new fuel rail for it which is easy if you have the right equipment.
Right now the layout is still on paper and the program im using im trying to figure out
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This is what i designed for my car. They're a little old, but it's an idea. 70mm TB and I reused all my parts and deleted the EGR.
That is awesome. What was the out come after it was on the dyno? What changed in regards to driving performance?
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That is awesome. What was the out come after it was on the dyno? What changed in regards to driving performance?
Yea would be alot better also if we had a project with this set up VS windstar.
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see and thats why we want to do this, you google performace parts for the v6 there isnt to many of them, but you google v8 performance and the list is never ending, i mean come one, were is the love for the v6
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see and thats why we want to do this, you google performace parts for the v6 there isnt to many of them, but you google v8 performance and the list is never ending, i mean come one, were is the love for the v6
Lmao. Not proud of a v6

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I mean most people aren't proud of a v6. I respect any motor that runs and has some sort of power. I am faster and more efficient then most cars out there, down here 75% better than what most people have.

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Down here lots off old hand me down trucks and crap that's not taken care of. Better yet rate me at 65% bc there are a lot of bmws, Acura, Audi, most nice cars are the most expensive. I like what I have.
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i love my little stang but what pisses me off is that my wifes new honda van beat my mustang in a 1/2 miles, thats bull****, and she thinks its so damn funny to, but you wait ill leave that pos in the dust
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i love my little stang but what pisses me off is that my wifes new honda van beat my mustang in a 1/2 miles, thats bull****, and she thinks its so damn funny to, but you wait ill leave that pos in the dust
Let her have her fun. Love her for that.
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ya i know i love her lol, and i cant get mad at her she bought me a nos kit for my impreza
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ya i know i love her lol, and i cant get mad at her she bought me a nos kit for my impreza
Then you'd better love her
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This is what i designed for my car. They're a little old, but it's an idea. 70mm TB and I reused all my parts and deleted the EGR.
looks good; too bad it wont pass emissions in CA
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Re: New intake design

well you could get it to pass, but that's why i'll never live in that retarded *** state!!!
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well you could get it to pass, but that's why i'll never live in that retarded *** state!!!
it would not pass the visual inspection of the test. once they see that manifold and find out there is no CARB number it is an automatic failure.
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