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Old 06-04-2012, 08:36 PM   #1
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clutch slipping and new clutch?

Hi guys, so I've had this car for almost a year now (00 v6) and just today, right from a cold start in the morning, i noticed the clutch slipping from second all the way to fourth (i don't know if this has anything to do with the rain or not). my question is, how long is this clutch still able to last me? it slips for about 1K RPMs because that's about the time it takes for me to shift gears when i'm not quick shifting. Also, the car did not come with an aftermarket clutch, I believe it should be a factory clutch. If I need to replace it, what clutch would be recommended/is able to withstand for DD and often times having a little fun? which one is also the most budget friendly? And from which company, AM, Ford Racing, etc? Thanks.
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Do you have any mods or plan to add any. Also do you plan to do the job yourself?
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Old 06-06-2012, 08:09 AM   #3
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Clutches last like 60-120k miles. Sorry for the broad range lol. I have. Feeling aftermarket will
Be a good bit more expensive but I'm not sure how much better you'll get out of it. Maybe it will engage quicker? Big whoop if you have a quick foot. Someone will correct me in sure.
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Do you have any mods or plan to add any. Also do you plan to do the job yourself?
Yes I do have mods, I have 3.73s, K&N CAI, and SCT SF3 tuner. I am planning on bringing it to a shop for installation.

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Clutches last like 60-120k miles. Sorry for the broad range lol. I have. Feeling aftermarket will
Be a good bit more expensive but I'm not sure how much better you'll get out of it. Maybe it will engage quicker? Big whoop if you have a quick foot. Someone will correct me in sure.
When I got the car it was at 134,xxx miles and I don't think the previous owner switched the clutch even once so that's why it gave up on me pretty fast. The car is now at 137,xxx miles so the clutch was definitely starting to give out when I got the car. I'm not quite sure how well the previous owner maintained the car (not very well I think) but I don't think they did a very good job. What do you mean by quick foot? I DO know that I tend to shift fast a lot, like I slam on the clutch pedal, shift, and then quickly release it. Now, I know that the stock clutch can't handle it so I'm looking towards an aftermarket one that CAN handle the way I drive.
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It's not about faster or slower you get aftermarket because they last longer,less slip and can stand abuse.

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The RAM hdx clutch
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Re: clutch slipping and new clutch?

So I read some reviews about the RAM hdx clutch and the SPEC clutch and people said that the SPEC clutch makes the clutch pedal feel lighter than the stock clutch when depressed and that the RAM clutch makes the clutch pedal feel a lot heavier when depressed compared to the stock clutch. I don't quite want my left leg to be 'dead' after a day's worth of driving so whats the difference between the SPEC clutch and the RAM clutch?
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Well its also how you set up the clutch but a better clutch will feel heavy but stand more abuse
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Re: clutch slipping and new clutch?

what do you mean by how i set up the clutch? do i need anything else other than the clutch itself and machining the flywheel? i read some people also got the clutch adjuster/clutch quadrant/throwout bearing for the RAM hdx clutch but not sure if it's necessary for me to get that as well...cuz i don't know what any of those are used for, other than the clutch adjuster
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Re: clutch slipping and new clutch?

so i just found out that on stock tune, the clutch only slips when going from third into fourth but on both street tune and performance tune, the clutch slips. I want to go for race tune but idk what that will do to the clutch...
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Re: clutch slipping and new clutch?

Remember that when you go to an aftermarket clutch with a heavier pressure plate you are going to have to spend extra money on more new parts...

You will probably want all of the following parts

A new firewall adjuster, read up on them, you will be glad you bought it.
A new clutch quadrant, the factory plastic one won't hold up to a heavier pressure plate.
A new clutch cable, the old one with 100K+ miles will be stretched and weak.

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Remember that when you go to an aftermarket clutch with a heavier pressure plate you are going to have to spend extra money on more new parts...

You will probably want all of the following parts

A new firewall adjuster, read up on them, you will be glad you bought it.
A new clutch quadrant, the factory plastic one won't hold up to a heavier pressure plate.
A new clutch cable, the old one with 100K+ miles will be stretched and weak.

Just my 2 cents....
oh ok, thanks for the info. what if i went back to the stock one then? would I still have to get all the parts listed above?
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oh ok, thanks for the info. what if i went back to the stock one then? would I still have to get all the parts listed above?
A lot less likely, because the stock is what the car is made for.
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So I brought my car into the shop yesterday and they said there was nothing wrong with my clutch. So I'm thinking it was the result of having the custom tune uploaded into the system that created the problem, but I may be wrong and am open to correction
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You should have gotten him to check everything including transmission.
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Re: clutch slipping and new clutch?

i need to get a transmission rebuild in the future, i brought my car into another shop a few months ago and he said i had around like 60,000 or so miles to play with before i have to get a new transmission put in
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Remember that when you go to an aftermarket clutch with a heavier pressure plate you are going to have to spend extra money on more new parts...

You will probably want all of the following parts

A new firewall adjuster, read up on them, you will be glad you bought it.
A new clutch quadrant, the factory plastic one won't hold up to a heavier pressure plate.
A new clutch cable, the old one with 100K+ miles will be stretched and weak.

Just my 2 cents....
Throw out bearing?
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Re: clutch slipping and new clutch?

i'll probably get the clutch replaced after the summer. it grinds occasionally but i think it's still somewhat good...
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I just got ram hdx recently. Not bad
Pedal doesn't feel Stiffer. Don't know if clutch but hear slight noise predominantly in 5th. Doesn't soind like when 3rd was about to explode, kinda sounds like spinning gear
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I just got ram hdx recently. Not bad
Pedal doesn't feel Stiffer. Don't know if clutch but hear slight noise predominantly in 5th. Doesn't soind like when 3rd was about to explode, kinda sounds like spinning gear
How much did u spend in total for the clutch? Did u get a flywheel as well?
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Ya I bought the kit off of lrs...late model restoration supply. It was 350...come w clutch, flywheel, throwout bearing, pilot, and alignment tool and ptessure plate. Then bought used tranny off mech from his old Car. Install was 4 hrs labor...charged for clutch labor. So just over 300 in labor. So around 650 parts and labor. This us my 1st manual as well and I don't see much difference as far as tighter Pedal. Then again I roll up to and sit at lights in neutral, so I'm not standing on it long. If u did might get heavy.

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Then again I see you have a 2000 v6 think said. Mine is a 90 w the 5.0 so don't know if costs would be different. I imagine labor might be higher.
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Oh ok. Yeah I do too, there's no point in wasting gas rolling up to a red light and burning the clutch while sitting at a red light
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Yeah our trannies like to go out around 150, sadly
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Re: clutch slipping and new clutch?

what do you mean by 150?
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what do you mean by 150?
150,000 miles, he wasn't too clear about that.
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Re: clutch slipping and new clutch?

oh. but my car only has like 137,000 miles...well other than the fact that i tried power shifting a few months after i got the car and i wasn't shifting as fast before because i was still getting used to MT...
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Sorry, 150k miles lol. They can go longer if treated right, that's just an average.
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Throw out bearing?
I meant in addition to the standard clutch, pressure plate, slave cylinder (when applicable) and throw out bearing that are generally replaced as a set.
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Re: clutch slipping and new clutch?

Hey guys
so it's been a long time since I've posted to this thread but I just brought my car into TPS Performance and after the tuner modified the street tune that AM gave me (he first ran my car on the dyno then said that the tune still had some corrections that were necessary in order for my car to run smoothly), I asked him about my clutch. He said that my clutch is almost about to go out but the time it takes to do that will determine how I normally drive. Now, I know myself that I sometimes dump the clutch (not always though, just sometimes) so the clutch will last but just not that long anymore. He also said that just getting a stock OEM clutch will be good enough for me because it's not like i'm gonna be drag racing with the car. Is this true? what's the next level clutch I can get if I want to be safe and am I able to just get it at any ordinary shop that sells clutches? Thanks
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so it's been a long time since I've posted to this thread but I just brought my car into TPS Performance and after the tuner modified the street tune that AM gave me (he first ran my car on the dyno then said that the tune still had some corrections that were necessary in order for my car to run smoothly), I asked him about my clutch. He said that my clutch is almost about to go out but the time it takes to do that will determine how I normally drive. Now, I know myself that I sometimes dump the clutch (not always though, just sometimes) so the clutch will last but just not that long anymore. He also said that just getting a stock OEM clutch will be good enough for me because it's not like i'm gonna be drag racing with the car. Is this true? what's the next level clutch I can get if I want to be safe and am I able to just get it at any ordinary shop that sells clutches? Thanks
You aren't putting enough power to be needing anything other than a stock clutch. It's fine for the normal person, and you. Just replace the clutch with a OEM one.
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Ok alright thanks, yeah that's what TPS told me as well
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