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Old 06-26-2012, 09:46 AM   #1
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gear 410

Finally got my money together to get them installed. Who else has gears and can share their stories of their first time driving with them
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i think greeny has them
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Does it matter what type of gear fluid I use. Should I use regular or go royal purple
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Well if it was never broke in, the first ride is really fun, seeing you got be hard on it to get to heat up.. After a fun ride, you let the car sit, pretty much over night and the break in is done.. Be easy on it for a Lil while ( a day or two) no problems then she's good to go.. I suggest royal purple with the break in additive also a diff cover that applies pressure to the main bearings!!

First time with gears huh? Hope you won't miss highway driving lol but yeah tons of fun on the street plus a Lil quicker ET at the drag strip!!
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Re: gear 410

i have 3.73's (just installed sunday night) and damn it really livened the car up, of course with this cam that hurts the low end, it made a huge difference for me

I do about 70% highway and the ~2400rpms at 70mph is definitely something to get used to, you'll have fun with those 4.10's haha

either royal purple 75-90 (80-90 works too, you don't need the additive with it, it has it made in) or another good name brand with the ford friction modifier additive (i'm assuming you have an LSD thats why i mention the additive)
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i think greeny has them
Did someone say my name? yes I have them! They TOTALLY wake up the car!

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Also use royal purple that stuff works great! Get a tlok as well, one wheel burn outs are stupid! And also I waited a about a day before I have my car some good gas! I have yet to do a legit burnout..... Maybe I will later? anyways, if you have a tuner go for it...... If not wait on gears get the tuner first! It's an amazing upgrade and I love it! Worth every hard earned penny! Thing is a monster!!!! Power when ever you need it! If you have any questions just hit me up!
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As much as Ioved my 4.10s I didnt so much like that fact that it would spin through second on my street tires.

I have 3.55s now.
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As much as Ioved my 4.10s I didnt so much like that fact that it would spin through second on my street tires.

I have 3.55s now.
How wide we're they??
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285.

Then again Im h/c/I with full exhaust.

And 5 speed
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I run 4.10s with a 305 rear Nitto 555r DR Tire. The car is crazy compared to stock. Check out the threads in my signature for discussions on gears.
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285.

Then again Im h/c/I with full exhaust.

And 5 speed
That could be why hahaha and im running 245's and auto i chirp 1-2 2-3
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That could be why hahaha and im running 245's and auto i chirp 1-2 2-3
Even with my 305 DR I spin all of first and can spin half of second and sometimes chirp third if I really try.

If I actually try to launch and drive fast I'll spin first and chirp second if cold launch on the street.
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Even with my 305 DR I spin all of first and can spin half of second and sometimes chirp third if I really try.

If I actually try to launch and drive fast I'll spin first and chirp second if cold launch on the street.
+1 I still spin on my 305 dr's but my car doesn't try to fishtail no more or move viciously.
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Technically you should have less traction with a wider tire cuz you have less contact pressure per square inch. If you want better traction get taller tires in the rear. Wider tires are good for lateral stability and they run cooler (good for tracks) not so much for straight runs. That's why drag cars have huge rear tires.
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Re: gear 410

so the guys running 16" wide tires with 10 psi have almost no traction correct? lol
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Technically you should have less traction with a wider tire cuz you have less contact pressure per square inch. If you want better traction get taller tires in the rear. Wider tires are good for lateral stability and they run cooler (good for tracks) not so much for straight runs. That's why drag cars have huge rear tires.
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Technically you should have less traction with a wider tire cuz you have less contact pressure per square inch. If you want better traction get taller tires in the rear. Wider tires are good for lateral stability and they run cooler (good for tracks) not so much for straight runs. That's why drag cars have huge rear tires.
If you look at it like a ratio then you may be correct. However a wider tire has a much larger contact area than a narrower tire, despite the height... I don't see what you're saying is relevant to our applications.

And a dragster's tire might be 36inches tall but also is 17.5 inches wide ran at 7psi which increases contact area dramatically. so width is a major factor in "grip". Height is more a factor in speed.
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You get better traction from a longer contact patch not a wider one. Lower psi actually makes your contact patch longer than it does wider. Also the wider tires have more area so they run cooler. I was just saying if you want better traction get taller tires in the rear.

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Or if you're gonna drag and easy fix is to just lower your rear tire pressure.
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Re: gear 410

in other words the equivalent of swapping to longer gears (say 3.27 down to 2.73), torque reduction, meaning harder to spin... not literally increasing traction
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No keeping the gearing the same. It's not about gear it's contact patches. Supposedly if you have a set of wider tires and narrow ones on the same size rim and the tires are the same brand and everything they should have the same if not close to the same size contact patch. For example go out into a parking lot or where ever and, with your tires set to proper pressure, drop your clutch and see how much wheel spin you get. Then take 10-15psi outta your rears and and try the same launch. Guaranteed you'll hook up better. Not cuz you tire is wider but cuz the patch is longer.
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No keeping the gearing the same. It's not about gear it's contact patches. Supposedly if you have a set of wider tires and narrow ones on the same size rim and the tires are the same brand and everything they should have the same if not close to the same size contact patch. For example go out into a parking lot or where ever and, with your tires set to proper pressure, drop your clutch and see how much wheel spin you get. Then take 10-15psi outta your rears and and try the same launch. Guaranteed you'll hook up better. Not cuz you tire is wider but cuz the patch is longer.
You missed what David is saying.
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You missed what David is saying.
very much so lol

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No keeping the gearing the same. It's not about gear it's contact patches. Supposedly if you have a set of wider tires and narrow ones on the same size rim and the tires are the same brand and everything they should have the same if not close to the same size contact patch. For example go out into a parking lot or where ever and, with your tires set to proper pressure, drop your clutch and see how much wheel spin you get. Then take 10-15psi outta your rears and and try the same launch. Guaranteed you'll hook up better. Not cuz you tire is wider but cuz the patch is longer.
yes i know about dropping pressure, i do it at the track sometimes if i feel like airing them back up later
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Re: gear 410

going from 3.27 to 3.73 was a major let down, very little gain overall. I previously went from 2.73 to 3.73 which is a much bigger jump.

4.10s are great but the 3.8L is not a high enough rpm motor for them I feel, you run out of gear far to quick~ but for track duty its what ever gets you to the end quicker.
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going from 3.27 to 3.73 was a major let down, very little gain overall. I previously went from 2.73 to 3.73 which is a much bigger jump.

4.10s are great but the 3.8L is not a high enough rpm motor for them I feel, you run out of gear far to quick~ but for track duty its what ever gets you to the end quicker.
I know what your saying but oh boy they still are a blast!
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The size below the 4.10 is 3.90 correct? I wonder how that would fare in a six.
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What a good gear that makes your car noticeably quicker but still can do freeway drives? Or is there one? Lol
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I got 2.73 I cant wait till I get domr 3.73 and posi
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What a good gear that makes your car noticeably quicker but still can do freeway drives? Or is there one? Lol
My GT has 4.10s and they made accel ridiculous but I still only turn around 2.3k @ 70mph.
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Really? That's not to bad but I mostly cruise at 80.
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My 3.27's turn 2k @ 65... Point being its going to vary depending on your engine/trans. V6 and V8 are going to be inherently different.
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Re: gear 410

V6 with stalled 4R70W and 3.73's ~2450 @ 70mph (gps speed)

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The size below the 4.10 is 3.90 correct? I wonder how that would fare in a six.
if you upgrade to a 8.8 rear end yes it goes 3.27-3.55-3.73-3.90-4.10 (and up)

with the 7.5 rear it's 3.27-3.45-3.73-4.10 (and up)
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V6 with stalled 4R70W and 3.73's ~2450 @ 70mph (gps speed)

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if you upgrade to a 8.8 rear end yes it goes 3.27-3.55-3.73-3.90-4.10 (and up)

with the 7.5 rear it's 3.27-3.45-3.73-4.10 (and up)
I wonder how a v6 with 3.90s would respond
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So im gonna,expect it to stall ar thar speed,to

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So im gonna,expect it to stall ar thar speed,to

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He is referring to the car/trans in example having a diff stall converter.
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