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Old 07-11-2012, 10:59 PM   #36
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A tb is worth 240 a bbk cai is 180? = 400+$ ... i do not believe that a cai and a tb will give you 10 hp on a stock motor. It's not worth it. Better go windstar!
Yeah it will now if you buy the cheap parts for you car it wont.
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the couple v6's ive seen hit a dyno stock usually net around 150 rwhp if they are in good condition and taken care of. a full N/A build can net you around the 230ish range if you want to go that route. sadly that's a lot of money that most don't have to toss at a car on most days...the other route is a power adder which can be equally expensive. what i'd reccomend to do is sit down and do research on both routes and see which would be best for you, and what you want out of the car
mikes was about a medium build due to little porting and factory valves with a stupid cam, and he made 230, a full build is way more lol

as to thread subject, a windstar intake alone will get you where you want to be at the 200 mark, but where it really shines is the increase in mid range power all the way to the top end, a good "seat of the pants" feeling to it

also, a throttle body is useless until you get into high boost cars, it's really not a restriction until you get to 400+rwhp
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A cam and tune will get 10 at least lol the end
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Yeah it will now if you buy the cheap parts for you car it wont.
Trust me! It wont!
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Trust me! It wont!
do you have both parts?
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do you have both parts?
it won't do but 2-3hp....
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A Performance TB with a good tune will give you 10 hp alone, read reviews about... nothing but good stuff
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Re: Need a cheep 10 horsepower

reviews from people with butt dyno's or people who put them on a dyno.. sure on a gt thats possible, but not sixers, my buddy with a turbo car said he gained a couple with a bigger tb.. not much
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reviews from people with butt dyno's or people who put them on a dyno.. sure on a gt thats possible, but not sixers, my buddy with a turbo car said he gained a couple with a bigger tb.. not much
What kind did he buy, what size, was it just a replacement one? It all matters
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Just wanna agree a tb won't do much to a stock v6 mustang. But make the engine bay shiny
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Just wanna agree a tb won't do much to a stock v6 mustang. But make the engine bay shiny
Do you have one?
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No but even a Cai doesn't do much so a tb won't do anymore. I got my Cai from am for 60 dollars looks better then stock but a tb that is 200 is a waste sorry to say
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Im not talking about a cai im talking about a free flowing tb the stock tb bottlenecks air in it if you replace it with a performance tb it will let alot more air threw giving you a better throttle response and gain hp.. if you afraid to spend the cash on something you'll never know what it can do for you.. dont base your opinion on just one persons bad opinion check everyones, or better yet get it and make a true opinion
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Well first I think you need to learn more about the car you drive and second do you have one if you are so high on this item I'm sure you should get one and dyno before and after.
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Well first I think you need to learn more about the car you drive and second do you have one if you are so high on this item I'm sure you should get one and dyno before and after.
I know about my car. And no but i am getting one just saving the cash. Im high on it because ive heard nothing but good about it one bad review dosent effect my opinion. Live a little.. try new things.. whats the worst that can happen? Maybe if it doesnt really gain your hp atleast you will have a better throttle response and have a better launch witch is still a plus to me. And also did your friend dyno it right after he put it in because most of the reviews say the power doesnt kick it untill its drivin a certain amount of miles.
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I know about my car. And no but i am getting one just saving the cash. Im high on it because ive heard nothing but good about it one bad review dosent effect my opinion. Live a little.. try new things.. whats the worst that can happen? Maybe if it doesnt really gain your hp atleast you will have a better throttle response and have a better launch witch is still a plus to me. And also did your friend dyno it right after he put it in because most of the reviews say the power doesnt kick it untill its drivin a certain amount of miles.
i can put a f#$&ing 90mm tb on the car and it still won't do anything lol just because you make the opening bigger doesn't make a difference if it can still bottle neck after the tb... it's just like widening the top of a funnel, sure you can have more room to pour in liquid but it still depends on the end of the funnel as to the flow...

as to the "it takes a certain amount of miles" that is just plain ignorant, flow is flow, it doesn't make a difference how many miles is on it

and yes he had his turbo car dynoed before and after the BBK 65mm tb.. he returned it afterwards
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Just follow these steps and you will be on your way over 1000hp lol

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^^lmfao

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What kind did he buy, what size, was it just a replacement one? It all matters
BBK 65mm, same one everyone else gets

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Do you have one?
i know this was directed at kicker, but i do have one myself, felt 0 difference and just screwed with my idle
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i can put a f#$&ing 90mm tb on the car and it still won't do anything lol just because you make the opening bigger doesn't make a difference if it can still bottle neck after the tb... it's just like widening the top of a funnel, sure you can have more room to pour in liquid but it still depends on the end of the funnel as to the flow...

as to the "it takes a certain amount of miles" that is just plain ignorant, flow is flow, it doesn't make a difference how many miles is on it

and yes he had his turbo car dynoed before and after the BBK 65mm tb.. he returned it afterwards
like i said LIVE A LITTLE Just try one and of it doesnt give you horse power gain atleast it will give you a quicker throttle response and a better launch, witch is still well worth the money.
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Thays what reviews say but like i said LIVE A LITTLE Just try one and of it doesnt give you horse power gain atleast it will gibe you a quicker throttle response and a better launch, witch is still well worth tje money.
better launch???

as an owner of the paperweight (from my young and stupid days), i'm just telling you to save your money bud, 250 can be better spent elsewhere
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Quicker throttle response = quicker take off...
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congrats you gained .00009 on your 1/4 mile time
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I say CAI, TB spacer, windstar, LT headers, exhaust setup.
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congrats you gained .00009 on your 1/4 mile time

thanks lol...
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congrats you gained .00009 on your 1/4 mile time
Not true i think it might weight alittle more so your still at the same time lol
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Not true i think it might weight alittle more so your still at the same time lol
a performance tb is actually made with aluminum so its light weight
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Re: Need a cheep 10 horsepower

Lets stop the misinformation train that is ME's v6 section.

I don't care what brand of CAI you buy Ebay, bbk, or AM as long as its not K&N's hot air intake your not going to gain 10 RWHP from it period.

And if you add a throttle body that that, your STILL not going to gain 10 rwhp from it PERIOD. Its a nice paper weight, it looks great, OR if your in a group of ricers you can convince them your TB+CAI gives you 10hp but if you tell a group of "car guys" that they will laugh at you.

A windstar intake and a good tune and a cat back exhaust would prob net you 10hp.

A good cam and exhaust and tune would prob net you more than 10hp.

The 94-04 v6 is not a big cube motor, its not F/I, and its not some advance technology 4 cylinder so it doesn't take well to 'basic bolt ons'

How much money do you have to or want to spend? Or why do you need "10" hp that is a strange number.
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a TB upgrade on a 3.8/3.9 is about as big of a waste as an intake spacer on a stock engine...sadly we don't take to bolt ons as well as as older 5.0 :/
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Good stuff!! Hahaha just let him get it!! Shoot get that **** bro!!!
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Good stuff!! Hahaha just let him get it!! Shoot get that **** bro!!!
^ agreed.
if thats wat u really really want to buy, just get it and see how u like it.
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Id say pick up a quality cold air intake and do a dual exhaust. You can do a custom exhaust for a bit cheaper than bolt ons. Then you'll need a tuner, that might net you about 10whp. You might gain a mpg or two as well.
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Like I said before. Cai and dual exhaust will net you about 10 hp. For a throttle body to do absolutely anything you would need the upper and lower ported and polished to match whatever throttle body you bought and all together you might get 15 hp
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^yup, horsepower isn't cheap. A port and polish done professionally will run about $600-$800? Maybe im way off... anyone care to comment?
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Depends if you give a core but I seen around 200 each so 400-800 but with a cam you get some good hp.
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