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Old 07-17-2012, 06:43 AM   #1
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mustang 2001 v6 vs stock 87 5.0 mustang

What would it take to beat a old 5.0 on the track. I'm guess gears,Tlock,tuner and what else
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sup man, glad you asked this. yes, gears are HUGE. that would be a big ace in your deck of cards. I'd go with either 3:73s or 4:10s, just pick your poison. Diff lock would be a plus, all the bolt ons: shorty headers, pretty sure you could get an H-pipe for a GT and have an exhaust shop weld it on and make it fit, 65mm t/b, cold air intake, SCT tuner (strongly suggest increasing your shift pressure 1st thru 3rd in descending order-has worked for me very well), the softest set of shocks for the back (have a set of monroe's on the back of mine)......

......And......if you're inclined to push it EVEN further, you can remove weight by jacking your front and rear bumper supports, back seat (seat and back cusions), and spare tire assy. all thats good for around 150lbs or so, maybe more.

Too much? Too little? idk, lemme know whatcha think.
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Also getting a light weight k-member and aluminum drive shaft will help with weight. Switch your metal hood and fenders for fiberglass ones.
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Get rid of the hood and doors. I think if you get rid of the sway bars would help with straight line driving
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Get rid of the hood and doors. I think if you get rid of the sway bars would help with straight line driving
It might be stock but trust me them 5.0s have a lot of kick to them.. Even stock between me and my buddie we have 7.. 5 run and 2 could and the about 3 extra parts cars.. 1 built.. One completely stock.. My orange one with a lot of bolt ons.. A cobra. Worth a lot! And one stock with smog delete and straight pipes.. And they will all blow my v6 out of the water.. I'll try to get a picture of them all sometime.. There all parked in sheds and in storage
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Lol kickerofdoom, that isnt sarcasm is it? May sound we're going overbord or talking out of our a**, but weight is HUGE ace, id say just as huge as a big gear. Powers cool and fun, but the more you can drop, strip, exchange for a lighter alternative, the less ur engine has to pack, the less it has to pack, the more energy(power in this case) it can devote to molesting some 5-0 a** .

And yes, if u guys arent turning any direction, thatd be offally beneficial to forego the sway bars.
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I was saying just have the motor, a raving seat and most important a sticker that says 3.8 so the 5.0 feels sad when it gets beat
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Re: mustang 2001 v6 vs stock 87 5.0 mustang

How bout a 100 shot of N2O?
Use the old trick of mounting it in a gym bag in the trunk.
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How bout a 100 shot of N2O?
Use the old trick of mounting it in a gym bag in the trunk.
u can hide the bottle and everything all you want. but anybody who has ever ran a car at the track/street knows if you are hustling someone about spraying.
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u can hide the bottle and everything all you want. but anybody who has ever ran a car at the track/street knows if you are hustling someone about spraying.
I beg to differ on that comment.

Wana race a 4 cylinder mustang?
They don't know what hit em.

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I beg to differ on that comment.

Wana race a 4 cylinder mustang?
They don't know what hit em.

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oh really lol ha! yea i got a 1200hp fox to run your 4cyl

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what do you got done to it though man? nitrous is hard to hard to hide because how the car runs with it.
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oh really lol ha! yea i got a 1200hp fox to run your 4cyl

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what do you got done to it though man? nitrous is hard to hard to hide because how the car runs with it.
The question is: Will you know if I sprayed you or not?
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The question is: Will you know if I sprayed you or not?
yes u can tell by how a car runs if its spraying. do 3+ runs then yes.
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yes u can tell by how a car runs if its spraying. do 3+ runs then yes.
(not for nothing and no disrespect)
Just trying to get some understanding here....

Whats the limit or range of N2O additional HP that you can guarantee, without a doubt, know for sure that someone is spraying?

If Kickerofdoom puts a 50 shot on to race this 5.0, would you know?
What about a 25 shot?


Then after you knew,
Would it matter?

Car against car. If someone calls your car out and you accept, known or unknown power adder present/hidden/non-existant, its still car against car for the win.

Kicker, I say spray that 5.0's *** and don't even pop your trunk.
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(not for nothing and no disrespect)
Just trying to get some understanding here....

Whats the limit or range of N2O additional HP that you can guarantee, without a doubt, know for sure that someone is spraying?

If Kickerofdoom puts a 50 shot on to race this 5.0, would you know?
What about a 25 shot?

Then after you knew,
Would it matter?

Car against car. If someone calls your car out and you accept, known or unknown power adder present/hidden/non-existant, its still car against car for the win.

Kicker, I say spray that 5.0's *** and don't even pop your trunk.
no u will not tell a 50 shot. the driver themselves can barelyfeel a 50 shot. and i domt care about spraying i do it and always have. even on my sportbikes i spray them also. im talking about hustling someone about spraying. we have people that run with us that try to exp one guy in a 03 cobra runnig a 75 shot
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Re: mustang 2001 v6 vs stock 87 5.0 mustang

if it's stock you'll take him...i haven't lost yet on the track to a stock 5.0...their gearing is even worse then a stock new edges sixxer.
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lol wow.....I can appreciate ya'lls enthusiasm. But NOS is kinda like the all encompassing "+1" card...."...all that plus one". That, and NOS doesn't exactly contribute to a reliable engine. Idk, just don't feel all that comfortable using it on my daily driver.

But yes 1slosix, you compounded my point, which is the subject that excites me just as much as HP, .....gearing. Gearing can account for SO much.
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Re: mustang 2001 v6 vs stock 87 5.0 mustang

Well, I figured since ya'll like seafoam so much, you oughta see what a 'wet' 75 shot of naaws does to your intake manifold.
It'll make the insides of your intake "shiney and new".
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+1000 the only reason Honda give stock sixers such a hard time is because their gearing is ridiculous from the factory. Engine for engine we would eat them. As for a 5.0 fox... I've never raced one so I couldn't give any insight
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if it's stock you'll take him...i haven't lost yet on the track to a stock 5.0...their gearing is even worse then a stock new edges sixxer.
The problem with that is their aren't many stock 5.0. Out their anymore .
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lol wow.....I can appreciate ya'lls enthusiasm. But NOS is kinda like the all encompassing "+1" card...."...all that plus one". That, and NOS doesn't exactly contribute to a reliable engine. Idk, just don't feel all that comfortable using it on my daily driver.

But yes 1slosix, you compounded my point, which is the subject that excites me just as much as HP, .....gearing. Gearing can account for SO much.
when done right nitrous (not NOS) can be used on a DD with no issue. It's one of those things that will make you doubt your car until you actually deal with it a few times

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The problem with that is their aren't many stock 5.0. Out their anymore .
most fox owners add bolt ons around here...intake and exhaust is stock in my opinion.
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^ FYI NOS is nitrous it's just the brand name from Holley
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^ FYI NOS is nitrous it's just the brand name from Holley
yes NOS is a brand i'm very well aware of that, but there are many good brands so when talking about nitrous in general it's usually good to call it what it is to keep confusion down. Just using a brand name can make someone think we are talking about just a certain kit and not nitrous as a whole
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