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Old 07-29-2012, 12:45 PM   #1
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Nitrous for a v6?

I know it sounds ricey, but it does seem fun. Someone offered to trade me a nitrous kit for the rims and tires I'm selling. Will I need forged internals to use one? And what is your opinion on nitrous?
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I know it sounds ricey, but it does seem fun. Someone offered to trade me a nitrous kit for the rims and tires I'm selling. Will I need forged internals to use one? And what is your opinion on nitrous?
It's not ricey at all. What kind of kit? Is it all the wiring and the bottle? I am also maybe lookin into doing this in the future but remember tht is another form of FI so it's ok to run it but with a tune and not use it often I would believe but yes it would be wise to get tht block beefed up for the pounding
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if you do the work to your engine to prepare it for a Nos system, you might as well Turbo or s/c it and stop there. In my opinion, nitrous f###s up all that work you just did and depresses the life of your parts. if anything, I'd do a 50 shot just for a real snappy 2 to 3rd acceleration.
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Is it okay to use on an automatic?
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Is it okay to use on an automatic?
yup, its better on an automatic because it doesnt miss gears.
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And what kind of money would be required for the other mods I would have to do to the engine to make it compatible?
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And what kind of money would be required for the other mods I would have to do to the engine to make it compatible?
just engine? probably 4k. not including bigger fuel pump for injectors, better torque converter, 8.8 rear+ 4.10 gears. that's an extra 6-800 depending on how you aquire the parts.
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just engine? probably 4k. not including bigger fuel pump for injectors, better torque converter, 8.8 rear+ 4.10 gears. that's an extra 6-800 depending on how you aquire the parts.
Just run a 50 shot and youll be fine as long ad your car has low miles
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It's a zex kit.. I'll ask more details when I get home. But my car has 85k on the engine so I don't think that would work : /
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if you do the work to your engine to prepare it for a Nos system, you might as well Turbo or s/c it and stop there. In my opinion, nitrous f###s up all that work you just did and depresses the life of your parts. if anything, I'd do a 50 shot just for a real snappy 2 to 3rd acceleration.
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just engine? probably 4k. not including bigger fuel pump for injectors, better torque converter, 8.8 rear+ 4.10 gears. that's an extra 6-800 depending on how you aquire the parts.
i don't think you've ever worked on a nitrous car in your life

@OP nitrous is a great power adder when you need it. you're stock block and stock everything else will hold fine up to a 75 shot...hell a 100 shot is fine, but i'd keep it to low use. However a 75 shot is great for all your track needs

is this a wet or dry kit? what's included...does it come with a window switch, and all the other add ons? bottle warmer? electric opener?

btw nitrous is fine for either an auto or a manual...if you can't shift a car that's running nitrous you shouldn't be dealing with it in the first place.
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i don't think you've ever worked on a nitrous car in your life

@OP nitrous is a great power adder when you need it. you're stock block and stock everything else will hold fine up to a 75 shot...hell a 100 shot is fine, but i'd keep it to low use. However a 75 shot is great for all your track needs

is this a wet or dry kit? what's included...does it come with a window switch, and all the other add ons? bottle warmer? electric opener?

btw nitrous is fine for either an auto or a manual...if you can't shift a car that's running nitrous you shouldn't be dealing with it in the first place.
Thanks for the info. I will ask him before trading.. The last thing I want is to mess my car up, it's been super reliable. Just having nitrous hooked up and a little red button sounds like a dream. Win button when little civics roll up
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Nitrous on the streets is stupid to me though..track use only please because if anything did go wrong youre not gonna have fun..in most states its illegal to keep a bottle hooked up anyway. If you wanna thrash civics then just toss in gears and a tlok then never worry about them again...
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Well.. I don't worry about them now, they still think they can beat me though. Usually just high schoolers in their rice burners.

Wiping the stupid smiles off their faces one at a time.

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Also I've never been to the track, although it sounds fun. Not sure if taking my daily driver is a good idea, because something could go wrong

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Also, the nitrous would be a zex WET system. Not sure of the difference. I am waiting on his answer to see what shot it is.
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Well.. I don't worry about them now, they still think they can beat me though. Usually just high schoolers in their rice burners.

Wiping the stupid smiles off their faces one at a time.

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Also I've never been to the track, although it sounds fun. Not sure if taking my daily driver is a good idea, because something could go wrong

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Also, the nitrous would be a zex WET system. Not sure of the difference. I am waiting on his answer to see what shot it is.
lol wait till you see the tails of a stock accord...you'll know it's gonna happen if you see stock dual exhausts...much peppier then you think. just be careful man things aren't always what they seem.

and yes a DD on a track is a great idea. if you're not able to handle a stock car on a track without issue then you don't need to build the car

and zex is a dandy kit, but along with the shot size find out what the kit has. you may end up with a bad deal depending on what it includes
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Re: Nitrous for a v6?

I don't know if the v6 can handle that much pressure. Whatever you do, don't go over 100 shot until you get forged internals.
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Yeah i only know a couple people who done 125 and they blew rear end apart
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Just sayin that NOS on the streets is a felony...... so easy now with your dreams you don't want to end up with your stang gone
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Just sayin that NOS on the streets is a felony...... so easy now with your dreams you don't want to end up with your stang gone
it is not a felony. where did you hear that? as long as the bottle is closed it isn't "illegal". I even had nitrous on my crouch rocket and the bottle was in plain sight. It is not a felony
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it is not a felony. where did you hear that? as long as the bottle is closed it isn't "illegal". I even had nitrous on my crouch rocket and the bottle was in plain sight. It is not a felony
I'm saying if used on the street and caught using it,it is...... Anyways that's what I've heard
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I'm saying if used on the street and caught using it,it is...... Anyways that's what I've heard
that is diff getting caught using it. Thats why you get a automatic bottle opener bc as long as the bottle is closed they cant mess with you.
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So bottom line is, it isn't safe for my car? Or should I hook it up only to use in small doses?
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So bottom line is, it isn't safe for my car? Or should I hook it up only to use in small doses?
nitrous is perfectly safe with a proper tune
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that is diff getting caught using it. Thats why you get a automatic bottle opener bc as long as the bottle is closed they cant mess with you.
Hey im just throwing it out there, something he should know if he didnt
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nitrous is perfectly safe with a proper tune
If I get one from AM, bama offers a nitrous tune?
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If I get one from AM, bama offers a nitrous tune?
i would not go with a email tune for nitrous. You will need a actual dyno tune
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Re: Nitrous for a v6?

Stick with the recommended 'pills' from the name brand you're installing and you won't have any issues or need for "dyno tuning".

If your fuel pressure is good, just install the proper pills for the kit and you're good to go. You can add more fuel, less fuel, more N2O, Less N2O. Its all tunable based on what your car wants/needs.

You can read plugs starting with a 50 shot and work your way up from there once you learn the system.



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Stick with the recommended 'pills' from the name brand you're installing and you won't have any issues or need for "dyno tuning".

If your fuel pressure is good, just install the proper pills for the kit and you're good to go. You can add more fuel, less fuel, more N2O, Less N2O. Its all tunable based on what your car wants/needs.

You can read plugs starting with a 50 shot and work your way up from there once you learn the system.

Lots of mis-information going on in this thread.
this is how you blow your motor by listening to this right here. Everybody wants to put input in bc they think they know whats best.
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this is how you blow your motor by listening to this right here. Everybody wants to put input in bc they think they know whats best.
Yea, you're full of it too.

Telling people they need to pay for dyno tuning for a friggin 50 shot.

Whether you have a plate or a fogger nozzle or a dry system, you're able to look up the fuel/n2o jet size on each manufactures website.
Its not rocket science.
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Yea, you're full of it too.

Telling people they need to pay for dyno tuning for a friggin 50 shot.

Whether you have a plate or a fogger nozzle or a dry system, you're able to look up the fuel/n2o jet size on each manufactures website.
Its not rocket science.
ok i have ran nitrous on almost all my vehicles including my sportbike. but ok we will listen to you.
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Whether you have a plate or a fogger nozzle or a dry system, you're able to look up the fuel/n2o jet size on each manufactures website.
Its not rocket science.
Examples: ZEX™ Jet Charts

http://www.holley.com/data/Products/.../199R10295.pdf

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ok i have ran nitrous on almost all my vehicles including my sportbike. but ok we will listen to you.
And YOU'RE the ONLY one who's ever done that too.

Oh lawdy, I wishes I had your abilities.

I've probably enhaled more nitrous than you've sprayed. LOL
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that is nothing more than a estimate. you will need to fine tune the car to make sure your air/fuel is where it needs to be. you cant just expect every car to run the same based of a chart. every vehicle is diff. timing needs to be pulled for the bottle and so on.

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Examples: ZEX™ Jet Charts

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And YOU'RE the ONLY one who's ever done that too.

Oh lawdy, I wishes I had your abilities.

I've probably enhaled more nitrous than you've sprayed. LOL
Dis i say i was the only one? This is the reason people leave this forum right here.

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This is the reason people leave this forum right here.
The reason people are most likely leaving this forum is due to the rampant mis-information being spewed.
Its pretty bad here.
Seafoam...

Here's some basic reading for OP that will help answer some questions.
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You need a dyno tune to get it running right, why you think people get theirs dyno tuned when they go with a supercharger or a turbo.
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You need a dyno tune to get it running right...
No, no you don't.

Nitrous systems are rigorously tested to make sure their recommended settings are well within the 'safe zone'. If your car is running well, you can install a nitrous kit following their specifications and be well within the safe tune air/fuel area. You don't "NEED" to take it to a dyno.

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why you think people get theirs dyno tuned when they go with a supercharger or a turbo.
Because a turbo or supercharger is not using exactly proportioned air and fuel jets as a nitrous system does.
Its all been done before and its very safe (in low hp doses).

I can't believe you people can't even install a 50 hp nitrous kit without requiring an experienced tuner and a dyno.

It was so depressing reading this thread that I decided to look around my attic for enough spare parts to assemble a 50 shot kit for my 170k mileage mustang.
I have to do a clutch job on it this weekend (or next, depending on how swamped I am), so maybe a few weeks I'll install it. Gotta find my spare throttle switch.
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