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Old 07-31-2012, 09:08 AM   #1
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P.S.A. Stay away from LUCAS Oil Teatment(s)

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I know y'all like your injector cleaning products (excluding seafoam intake cleaner), but thought I'd help spread the word about LUCAS products for the oil.

I'm sure you've all seen the little clear plastic thing with the crank on it, filled with oil in one side and lucas oil treatment in the other, at auto parts stores.
This product is terrible! Please do not use it! (yes i'm serious).

Whats the worst thing for a hydraulic system (besides water)???
Air!!!

Do the tests for yourself. Go up to one of those product displays and turn both cranks, as fast as you can, evenly, then stop and look at both oils in the bottom.
Which one has more air bubbles?
LUCAS Oil Treatment.
EVERY TIME.

This is very bad for your oiling system.
Please do some research for yourself and spread the word.

Thank you.


p.s. - Same goes for any of their power steering additives and trans fluids!!!
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Re: P.S.A. Stay away from LUCAS Oil Teatment(s)

you have any links/claims of scientific studies to back this up or just your "hunch" that its bad for the system? Post up some links to studies that come up with bad results so we can read over them.
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you have any links/claims of scientific studies to back this up or just your "hunch" that its bad for the system? Post up some links to studies that come up with bad results so we can read over them.
As I stated above, please do your own research if you don't understand why its bad. I don't want you to 'believe' me. I want you to understand that it happens, its bad for your motor/trans/etc, and LUCAS causes it.

But sure, I'm happy to provide you with links in your research.

Air Contamination of Hydraulic Fluid
HowStuffWorks "How Hydraulic Machines Work"

http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/hand.../166145859.pdf

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...Number=1581922
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LUCAS FTW !!

jk. i tried a lucas product once but nothing really happened.
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I just wanted you to post links to support your findings~ thats all.
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LUCAS FTW !!

jk. i tried a lucas product once but nothing really happened.
LOL
That is the best possible outcome of using their products!
Well, besides the fact that you're out the purchase price of it.
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Many ppl on the Mach1 registry swear by the Lucas Transmission Fix for the Tremec TR-3650 tranny. I'm sure there is some bad oil/fuel/fluid treatments out there but you should provide access to the data to prove it as SpectorV mentioned, or it's no more than an opinion really.
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Many ppl on the Mach1 registry swear by the Lucas Transmission Fix for the Tremec TR-3650 tranny. I'm sure there is some bad oil/fuel/fluid treatments out there but you should provide access to the data to prove it as SpectorV mentioned, or it's no more than an opinion really.
I always use Mom's robot oil for my oil needs. I find my robots get more MPP, run cleaner, and keeps the exhaust from clinging to the exterior, keeping their metal asses shiny and in their words, biteable.
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Re: P.S.A. Stay away from LUCAS Oil Teatment(s)

LOL @ Forsaken

Azure, I thought I did provide links. Do you not see them?
heres one more
They Call it "Lucas" Oil Stabilizer - Bob Is The Oil Guy
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I always use Mom's robot oil for my oil needs. I find my robots get more MPP, run cleaner, and keeps the exhaust from clinging to the exterior, keeping their metal asses shiny and in their words, biteable.
^Lmao!

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LOL @ Forsaken

Azure, I thought I did provide links. Do you not see them?
heres one more
They Call it "Lucas" Oil Stabilizer - Bob Is The Oil Guy
Yup, I saw them. Links to a forum where people discuss a topic is not data. Those are opinions. The links on Air Contamination and from MIT & HowStuffWorks did not mention anything about Lucas products.

I'm just saying. --->DATA<---
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^Lmao!

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Yup, I saw them. Links to a forum where people discuss a topic is not data. Those are opinions. The links on Air Contamination and from MIT & HowStuffWorks did not mention anything about Lucas products.

I'm just saying. --->DATA<---

I gave a homework assignment in the OP saying to seek out the LUCAS Oil advertisment with the plastic gears.
Research it for yourself.
I've already done my own research. But to others, that would be "just my opinion".

I encourage you to do the same.
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I gave a homework assignment in the OP saying to seek out the LUCAS Oil advertisment with the plastic gears.
Research it for yourself.
I've already done my own research. But to others, that would be "just my opinion".

I encourage you to do the same.
With all the criticism you're getting about not giving links I thought I would back you up a little. This whole thing was posted as an opinion and was never made out to be anything different. And that is why you encouraged readers to seek out their own information. You were simply giving your two cents to help your fellow driver. I appreciate that and as soon as I get the opportunity I plan to do the research you suggested. Thanks for the heads up Mike.
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Not really sure how this is comparable to hydraulic fluid, in your motor/tranny/differentials there is plenty of air in these systems anyways, part of the reason for a pcv system is for that air to move out of the motor. A hydraulic system is a sealed system in which nothing should be moving in or out of the system and the system operates off of internal pressures. Got a couple of air bubbles so what. Doesn't damage anything whatsoever
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Not really sure how this is comparable to hydraulic fluid, in your motor/tranny/differentials there is plenty of air in these systems anyways, part of the reason for a pcv system is for that air to move out of the motor. A hydraulic system is a sealed system in which nothing should be moving in or out of the system and the system operates off of internal pressures. Got a couple of air bubbles so what. Doesn't damage anything whatsoever
I want to encourage others to answer too, but right off the top of my head here...

1. Hydraulic Lifters - aerated oil can ruin them.
2. Crank Shaft - rides on a layer of oil. The less aeration, the better.
3. etc....
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Ive run lucas in ever vehicle ive ever owned or will own...i love the trans non slip for when a syncro is in needing of replacement ....or the stabilizer for a sticky lifter. If you dont like it op thats fine. Just remember its just your opinion and not a fact. have a good day
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The viscosity of the oil at room temp in a plastic display is far different than it is at proper operating temp in you motor mixed with motor oil. At a different temp and viscosity an air bubble will be far less stable and won't last long IF it is even created, not likely that it would harm anything anyways
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Ive run lucas in ever vehicle ive ever owned or will own...i love the trans non slip for when a syncro is in needing of replacement ....or the stabilizer for a sticky lifter. If you dont like it op thats fine. Just remember its just your opinion and not a fact. have a good day
+1 just like the seafoam stuff some people will use it and like it and some people wont.. The only think I'm 100% against is anything that's stops leaks lol.
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+1 just like the seafoam stuff some people will use it and like it and some people wont.. The only think I'm 100% against is anything that's stops leaks lol.
Amen, i cant diagnose anything if theres no leak
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O.o what? Lol what did i say now
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LOL,
The denial of how crappy LUCAS is, kind of related to sticking fingers in your ears and saying "la la la la... I cant hear you... la la la"

More "opinion" in this link. lmao (but with face palm)
http://www.mytractorforum.com/showth...65#post1841465
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O.o what? Lol what did i say now
My bad, I thought you were making fun again.
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I know y'all like your injector cleaning products (excluding seafoam intake cleaner), but thought I'd help spread the word about LUCAS products for the oil.

I'm sure you've all seen the little clear plastic thing with the crank on it, filled with oil in one side and lucas oil treatment in the other, at auto parts stores.
This product is terrible! Please do not use it! (yes i'm serious).

Whats the worst thing for a hydraulic system (besides water)???
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Do the tests for yourself. Go up to one of those product displays and turn both cranks, as fast as you can, evenly, then stop and look at both oils in the bottom.
Which one has more air bubbles?
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EVERY TIME.

This is very bad for your oiling system.
Please do some research for yourself and spread the word.

Thank you.

p.s. - Same goes for any of their power steering additives and trans fluids!!!
I used Lucas cooling system radiator cooler. But that's all broke away from Lucas so long ago. Basically additives I just use gumout once a year, an six cylinder engine restorer every oil change. My recommendation, use great fuel and a trusted oil and screw additives.
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My bad, I thought you were making fun again.
Im always serious. Always.
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Show me one person that has had any component of their vehicle fail due to Lucas oil treatments
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I used Lucas cooling system radiator cooler. But that's all broke away from Lucas so long ago. Basically additives I just use gumout once a year, an six cylinder engine restorer every oil change. My recommendation, use great fuel and a trusted oil and screw additives.
+1000 I just use motorcraft hell what can be better then what the engines were made with
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Show me one person that has had any component of their vehicle fail due to Lucas oil treatments
Why should I have to?
What kind of stipulation is that?

That's like saying: Show me one person who's died from eating dog turds.

Please use logic here.
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I always use Mom's robot oil for my oil needs. I find my robots get more MPP, run cleaner, and keeps the exhaust from clinging to the exterior, keeping their metal asses shiny and in their words, biteable.
Always serious? ^^But this is funny
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Why should I have to?
What kind of stipulation is that?

That's like saying: Show me one person who's died from eating dog turds.

Please use logic here.
Haha I get it, you're talking out of your *** until this thread blows up and gets closed, lol funny joke guy
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I use lucas oil stabilizer in my stang and my last vehicle.
My last DD was a 1997 buick lesabre when I got it the oil pressure was like one micron above the red zone I used the stabilizer with every oil change since then. I drove it 150k to 173k then let my neighbors babysitter have it 3yrs ago and it still runs perfect.
Plus the viscosity of the stabilizer is nothing like it is at operating temps. the stabilizer helps prevent breakdown off your oil also.
Do I have any links or any proof that it works....No only the fact that I worked in my vehicle with a poor oiling system that IMO should've had issues if the stabilizer added negative affects. And the fact that many other people swear by it. But who knows maybe we're all wrong! If I see definitive proof that it's causing more harm then good I'll stop using it immediately!
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Haha I get it, you're talking out of your *** until this thread blows up and gets closed, lol funny joke guy
Totally the oposite!
You're the butt-hurt purchaser of Lucas Oil products and want to justify your lost money on the product of which you're the fan-boy.

I'm not out to bash products without need, but seems like this place needs some education.
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i have many friends that have used the stuff for years. i have used it to reduce clatter. and top fuel cars even use the stuff. i could not find one proven engine failure via google. im gonna say its safe.
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i did actually find a guy on the net that used it in his bike, which had a clear site glass that allows you to see the oil. he said there was not one sign of air in his oil. but i do suppose the site glass would be small.
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Totally the oposite!
You're the butt-hurt purchaser of Lucas Oil products and want to justify your lost money on the product of which you're the fan-boy of.

I'm not out to bash products without need, but seems like this place needs some education.
Ahh, mr college degree must know everything especially after just a handful of posts lol. Everyone on here knows me and how I am on this forum so not really sure what you're trying to accomplish, last Lucas oil products I bought was for my 90 GT... I haven't had that thing for 4 yrs.

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