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Old 04-08-2008, 05:25 AM   #36
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well if you ever race anyone more than 1/4 mile and you dont go over 115 pretty much any stock car will beat you. for instance a stock hyundai tiburon (poorly made korean car) will do 143 stock. my mustang tops out at 135ish and I was maxed out on the highway but still got passed by a stock cobalt ss. 115 just isn't as fast as you think it is and if you think it is, your car deserves a new driver. just my opinion.

Well for one thing a stock V6 will not go 135 with the speed limiter removed. I would would say maybe 125-130 but that is really pushing it with the limitations of horse power the car has stock! Needless to say a person will need a hand held tuner to "remove" the speed govenor or a chip burned to do so.

Also I hope that hyundia was going down hill, wid to it's back, and a legion of angles pushing him.

Any way not that good to that fast on the streets...better to keep it to the track
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Old 06-26-2008, 09:05 PM   #37
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I have a 1998 Mustang GT do i get rid of the governor with a tuner or i have to do something different? Some of my friends say all i have to do is take a fuse out but i don't think that's the case.
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Old 06-26-2008, 09:10 PM   #38
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on a 98 a power programmer should remove it
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K Thnx. Is there a place i can go to get it done or do i have to buy one and do it myself?
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whoever you order it from will probably just remove it with the tune they program
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Re: need help removen a speed governor

u shouldnt really have a governer on that 98...what does it top out at?
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Old 06-27-2008, 07:59 AM   #42
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if your worried about cobalts beating you, put 1.27 gears in the rear end...who care if its a 1/4 mile turd..your racing for top speed. i would only worry about the other cars if they jumped on you in the 1/4 and held you off to 130+,in which case, id be looking at 4:10s to make sure it didnt happen again. if you beat them to 80, then they blow your doors off...they are retarted anyway...

i cant tell you how many times ill play with an import and i let out at 120mph, then they blow my doors off then i hear this " i cant believe i pulled past a cobra on the top end"

im like "dude, my 1/4 mile ends at 114mph, learn how to race..."
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Re: need help removen a speed governor

hence the term "ricer fly-by"
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Old 06-28-2008, 12:56 PM   #44
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my 98 says 150 on the dash but it stops at 120 so i don't know maybe i don't have a governor cause it doesn't shut off on me. so i don't know what to do.
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yea i have a 96 and it doesnt have a limiter on it and ive pushed 125 once or twice, if it stops there watch the tach and see if it still climbs, if so u have a speedo problem.
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Does anyone know the exact speed that the 4.0 v6 will top out at with the limiter removed? A few people in other forums are saying it will hold at 136... can anyone verify this?
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Going back to something mentioned earlier in this post about the drive shaft. Drive shaft failure usually occures at launch which the u joints typically are the failing point. If you hard launch a lot consider having the u joint checked regularly. Also while you are at it have the drive shaft balanced every so often. This will also give you a smoother ride and less vibration. The least common problem with drive shaft failure is it unwrapping. I have seen some actually unravel as they are hollow tubes and actually split and unravel like you would a paper towel tube
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with the transmission shifting so the rpms stay low the driveshaft wont ever get that high or are you talking about it going at say 6k rpms for a long period of time? that might do it.
Dude, this makes no sense. RPM has NOTHING to do with Drive shaft speed. Ok, that's not entirely true but look, 35 miles an hour in 1st gear, you're probably around 3500-4000 RPM. 35 miles an hour in 5th gear, and you're at maybe 1200 RPM. Driveshaft speed is EXACTLY the same. The output of the transmission is the important rotational speed, not RPM.
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Does anyone know the exact speed that the 4.0 v6 will top out at with the limiter removed? A few people in other forums are saying it will hold at 136... can anyone verify this?

I am not sure most dealers tell me to back out of it at 100 MPH, wusses...I joke

Ok this is according to modernracer.com ( 2005-2007 Ford Mustang V6 - Modern Racer - Auto Archive ):

Horsepower : 210 hp @ 5300 rpm
Torque : 240 lb-ft @ 3500 rpm
Redline : 6100 rpm

Top speed : 113 mph(electronically limited)
0-60 mph : 6.6 sec.(manual), 6.9 sec.(auto)
0-¼ mile : 15.0 sec @ 92.1 mph(manual), 15.3 sec @ 91.0 mph(auto)
60-0 braking distance : 130 ft
200 ft skidpad : 0.79 g

Curb Weight : 3352-3444 lbs
Overall length : 188.0 in.
Wheelbase : 107.1 in.
Overall Width : 73.9 in.
Height : 55.4 in.


So that is all the specs on the car! Just thought it might help out...

Most of fords V6's were limitted at around 113-115, but hey that is pretty fast if you ask me...To me it is not always about top end, but how fast it gets to its top end!
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Does anyone know the exact speed that the 4.0 v6 will top out at with the limiter removed? A few people in other forums are saying it will hold at 136... can anyone verify this?

I am not sure most dealers tell me to back out of it at 100 MPH, wusses...I joke

Ok this is according to modernracer.com ( 2005-2007 Ford Mustang V6 - Modern Racer - Auto Archive ):

Horsepower : 210 hp @ 5300 rpm
Torque : 240 lb-ft @ 3500 rpm
Redline : 6100 rpm

Top speed : 113 mph(electronically limited)
0-60 mph : 6.6 sec.(manual), 6.9 sec.(auto)
0-¼ mile : 15.0 sec @ 92.1 mph(manual), 15.3 sec @ 91.0 mph(auto)
60-0 braking distance : 130 ft
200 ft skidpad : 0.79 g

Curb Weight : 3352-3444 lbs
Overall length : 188.0 in.
Wheelbase : 107.1 in.
Overall Width : 73.9 in.
Height : 55.4 in.


So that is all the specs on the car! Just thought it might help out...

Most of fords V6's were limitted at around 113-115, but hey that is pretty fast if you ask me...To me it is not always about top end, but how fast it gets to its top end!
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From a dig my pony will jump my 89 Daytona by an easy car but once the little mopar stops smoking the tires in boost it will walk all over it. With imports these days your better off on a dig but most want a roll, especially turbo's cars, which raises what speed youd stop at. Ive topped out my Daytona at 156mph from a 60mph roll. If I tried this with my pony itd get stomped big time, every time. Its not a matter of "learning to race", its what the race is. Im not condoning street racing but Im sure weve all done it a few times at the least. Lets face it, the Mustangs have never really had a purpose. They look good, drive great, and launch like mad but when it comes down to it, without a good amount of work a well tuned mostly stock turbo car will walk just about any of our cars with a good driver and traction. We have alot more to "worry" about than top speed if you want to compete with todays turbo 4bangers.
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Old 07-06-2008, 11:18 PM   #52
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The car is great from a horse power to weight ratio! It is just that not so many people build them right and as a result they get smoked. The car from a performance stance...till late...has been relatively low in the HP market! So over all the car is great, just takes time and money!
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MY stang has maxed out at 134mph, and that's jsut due to drag and lack of any more power to overcome it.

Anyone who says that they've done over 115 without using a GPS to tell them their actual speed is lying, even if they don't realize it. First off, my speedo is buried at 120mph, yet when I get to 105 on the speedo, I'm doing 102mph on GPS. My speed is as correct as it can be, it's programmed down to the revolutions per mile of the tire, so it's as accurate as it can be.

It's a proven fact that factory speedos can be off by up to +/- 4mph while cruising at 65mph, and if it's + 4 then by the time you think you're doing 200, you're probably only going 150.

150mph is a lot harder to break than you may think, it's not just gearing and tires and driveshafts, it's power, weight, and aerodynamics.
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first off, racing from a roll is stupid...i have thousands invested in my suspension to launch and i intend to use it. anybody wanting to race me from a roll has no bragging rights in my mind whether i skull drag them or lose. i wouldnt know about drag holding a car back due to the lack of power to overcome it...if that is the case, its pointless to be going that fast anyway because its probably a low 14 sec car and doesent break 100 mph in the 1/4.as far as the new turbo cars, phht! they had a local guy with a srt10 with TB, and stage 3 upgrades or some crap. my gt had headers,and a short shifter and could get him by a car and hold him there til about 110 when i let out because my car only went 101 in the 1/4 at the time. i guess i just like drag racing and if its not relative to a 1/4 mile pass then it doesent count to me.
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From a dig my pony will jump my 89 Daytona by an easy car but once the little mopar stops smoking the tires in boost it will walk all over it. With imports these days your better off on a dig but most want a roll, especially turbo's cars, which raises what speed youd stop at. Ive topped out my Daytona at 156mph from a 60mph roll. If I tried this with my pony itd get stomped big time, every time. Its not a matter of "learning to race", its what the race is. Im not condoning street racing but Im sure weve all done it a few times at the least. Lets face it, the Mustangs have never really had a purpose. They look good, drive great, and launch like mad but when it comes down to it, without a good amount of work a well tuned mostly stock turbo car will walk just about any of our cars with a good driver and traction. We have alot more to "worry" about than top speed if you want to compete with todays turbo 4bangers.
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